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Old 18th November 2009, 12:51   #736
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2) Scorpio's left side RVM is concave whereas driver side RVM is normal. i want to buy one concave mirror of LHS RVM & add it to the RHS RVM!
It should be convex i guess , I would advice don't change the OVRM itself but place a smaller convex axillary OVRM available on accessory shops ( not the fisheye mirror) on top on your RHS OVRM.

Reason : Plane mirror gives you correct distance so helps you in reversing whereas convex mirror shows object farther then they actually are and may cause problem in judging the distance in tight parking space.
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Old 18th November 2009, 22:55   #737
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raj by chance did u see this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1588052-post1868.html. When are you doing this.
yes, i did see that buddy!

lol, my scorpio is already giving me the above mentioned headaches by driving on concrete roads & you want me to add more by trying scuba diving in it!

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It should be convex i guess , I would advice don't change the OVRM itself but place a smaller convex axillary OVRM available on accessory shops ( not the fisheye mirror) on top on your RHS OVRM.

Reason : Plane mirror gives you correct distance so helps you in reversing whereas convex mirror shows object farther then they actually are and may cause problem in judging the distance in tight parking space.
oh sorry, is it convex?

i HATE that small round convex fixed on RVMs. it looks damn ugly IMHO & gives the impression of a tourist cab.

secondly, i am very much used to these convex mirrors. my innova has convex mirrors & believe me, it actually makes life easier during reversing & parking.

by the way, innova has the best RVMs i have seen on any indian car. you can actually see even the LHS rear tyre from the LHS RVM without adjusting the mirror!
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Today while I was doing my regular home to office ride, I noticed that above 60kmph or so, once I brake hard I feel that even after I release my brake pedal the car takes a second to feel 'brake released'. This happened 4 weeks ago too, then I went to ASC and they did brake bleeding(both manual and the laptop way).

Is any body with ABS have any similiar experiences?

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Old 19th November 2009, 10:18   #739
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i HATE that small round convex fixed on RVMs. it looks damn ugly IMHO & gives the impression of a tourist cab.
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That is actually the fish-eye mirror
I am talking about something similar to this they are found almost on every car in Korea and Japan owing to tight parking space. And are available in body color.

Car Clip on Rear View Blindspot Mirror Brand New - eBay (item 370289756232 end time Nov-22-09 12:00:12 PST)



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by the way, innova has the best RVMs i have seen on any indian car. you can actually see even the LHS rear tyre from the LHS RVM without adjusting the mirror!
That has to do something with body style also Toyota and Safari OVERM are convex but focal length is very high ( less curvature) so do not create any problem in reversing and judging distance. In Innova there is no problem at all because there is almost no blind spot but in Scorpio / Safari owing to the body style there is a small blind spot.
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Hi Guys,

Today while I was doing my regular home to office ride, I noticed that above 60kmph or so, once I brake hard I feel that even after I release my brake pedal the car takes a second to feel 'brake released'. This happened 4 weeks ago too, then I went to ASC and they did brake bleeding(both manual and the laptop way).

Is any body with ABS have any similiar experiences?
Check the mechanical operation of the brake callipers and the shoes checked and freed if possible. It is usual in the rains for the brake pads/shoes to not operate smoothly as they tend to accumulate dirt/water/grime etc etc. Once cleaned they should be fine.
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Old 19th November 2009, 23:18   #741
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That is actually the fish-eye mirror
I am talking about something similar to this they are found almost on every car in Korea and Japan owing to tight parking space. And are available in body color.

Car Clip on Rear View Blindspot Mirror Brand New - eBay (item 370289756232 end time Nov-22-09 12:00:12 PST)
nah. thats not my cup of tea. IMHO, it will look very awkward in my scorpio, as if i am a LC wannabe! lol...

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1) Alarm siren does not work if it rains
2) right horn button on steering wheel not functioning
3) ABS light comes on intermittently
4) driver door is making a squeaking noise
5) AC blower is making a noise

Things i want to add:
1) The X in scorpio VLX is broken, so want to buy new badges!
2) Scorpio's left side RVM is concave whereas driver side RVM is normal. i want to buy one concave mirror of LHS RVM & add it to the RHS RVM!
outcome of the above issues posted here (Ownership Report - My new Scorpio VLX mHawk - 25,000 kms and counting).

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Hi guys I have a scorpio CRDE Auust 2005, it was doing fantastic duty till now, but suddenly the average has dropped down to 8-9 kmpl, it belches white and black smoke, other than that there is no loss in power or anything else wrong with it, it has done 81,000kms......any advice?? when I accelerate hard the smoke is maximum
hi guys thanks for all the help, finally had the smoke issue sorted, it was a faulty EGV....replaced for Rs 2200
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Hi, I purchased a 2004 Scorp a month ago. It has 80K on the odo. Am happy with it, but for a small niggle. While shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear, I get a small gear grinding type of sound from the gear lever, after which it falls into 3rd. This happens occasionally, maybe once in five shifts.

The A.S.C. guys told me to depress the clutch fully while shifting, which I always do. The problem persists, and only while shifting from 2nd to 3rd. There is never any problem while downshifting from 4th to 3rd though.
Could somebody please help.
Hi everybody, it felt nice to see my first post appear on Team BHP!
Following up on my gear shifting problem, I went to Sireesh Auto again, a couple of days ago. The guys there told me that there might be a problem with the synchro rings on 3rd gear. Estimate given : Rs. 3500 labour for gearbox servicing, and around Rs. 5000 for parts.
However, my problem has drastically reduced after I increased the speed of shifting the gears. Maybe the speed of the shafts are better synchronised this way, so I am waiting and watching. Thanks!
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Hi,

My issue of braking has been resolved yesterday with the replacement of master brake distributor unit. Phew, took 3-4 hours of continous work by my ASC & Rs.9800 only parts(ofcourse covered under warranty)
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raj_5004 : 2) Scorpio's left side RVM is concave whereas driver side RVM is normal. i want to buy one concave mirror of LHS RVM & add it to the RHS RVM!
@Raj, that is not wrong : Actually, that's the way it should be.

The viewing required from the two mirrors is different, because of the distance they are positioned from the driver. If both mirrors were the same (apart from external shape), the far side (in India - LHS) mirror will show more objects (becuase it is viewed at from further away. To avoid any dis-orientation, the far side mirror is made of a slightly different shape to allow same size images in both ORVMs.

Till a few years ago, both mirrors were similar in shape and this ended up in different size images. To warn the driver, Only the far side mirror used to carry the warning " OBJECTS IN THE MIRROR ARE CLOSE THAN THEY APPEAR ". Looks like the mirror shapes have now been changed to allow for same size images in both mirrors.

But now both mirrors carry this warning, just as an added safety message. The wind-shield mounted IRVM gives a better picture of the distance of the vehicle behind you than the ORVMs do.
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@ condor: but in my scorpio, only the LHS RVM shows the warning, not the RHS one. and the RHS RVM does not look convex too.

actually, i have no problem in judging distance with convex mirrors, but why i wanted them was for more visibility. buy anyways, mahindra A.S.S is reluctant to change the mirror to convex!
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Today by sheer negligence, I forgot to disengage the hand brake and drove the Scorpio for almost 4 to 5 kms keeping the handbrake engaged. It moved without any hitch and though there a little difference in its picking up speed, I could only remember that the lever is up after I parked. When I got out there was some kind of burning smell from the wheel drums. I saw the temperature needle which at the centre of the C-H layout.So feel not much damage was done.But have to be very careful in future.This had happened since I do not engage the handbrake always, unless its parked on a sloping surface.
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In the SLE, the voice guy sounds the alarm if the handbrake is engaged. Seriously though, many a times, I've done the same thing, and the voice guy saved the day.

Issues 1: From where I sit, and my height, I am unable to see the handbrake engaged sign on the dash over the horn button of the steering.

Issue 2: The handbrake, even if disengaged - sometimes does not go down fully. And its annoying.
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In the SLE, the voice guy sounds the alarm if the handbrake is engaged. Seriously though, many a times, I've done the same thing, and the voice guy saved the day.

Issues 1: From where I sit, and my height, I am unable to see the handbrake engaged sign on the dash over the horn button of the steering.

Issue 2: The handbrake, even if disengaged - sometimes does not go down fully. And its annoying.
Thanks RedLiner for sharing your views and the genuine problems.The LX does not have any other voice other than the that of the occupants.
True the steering camouflages the warning lights - rather all of them.Maybe the next Re-Refreshed Scorp should have the warning lights on the steering alongside the horn button, like the control switches there in the higher versions.
The handbrake lever refusing to go down reminds me of the Shivlinga gearbox lever in your thread! Now can there be two such Lingas facing one another?
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raj_5004 : @ condor: but in my scorpio, only the LHS RVM shows the warning, not the RHS one. and the RHS RVM does not look convex too.
@Raj, The shape/curvature would not be very pronounced. Pls leave it as it is. These things are also tested & designed, and IMO not worth the effort of changing.

Unless it is causing you a major discomfort, pls let it be.

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anjan_c2007 : Today by sheer negligence, I forgot to disengage the hand brake and drove the Scorpio for almost 4 to 5 kms keeping the handbrake engaged... When I got out there was some kind of burning smell from the wheel drums. I saw the temperature needle which at the centre of the C-H layout. So feel not much damage was done.
@Anjan, That temp gauge reads engine related temp. The heat build-up due to that running-with-hand-brake-on will be in the rear wheels. The two arent related.

What you have done is a common mistake. The only damage will be some wear out of the rear brake drum lining. The final result of this will be that you will have to replace your drums a little earlier than you would have done if this had not happened.
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