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Old 21st January 2011, 23:27   #4111
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Go for ONR. I have see the blore guys(ultimate detailzers) use it extensively. Best VFM product. Its like a all in one product also.
OK that is (re)-assuring, thanks much. Yes, it is a nice AIO VFM product. A gallon of quick detailer with just 8oz of ONR - impressive !
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thanks for the insight. i used the rotary in very low rpms and kept it moving continuously.

waiting for some tips from experts like sohail, mkh, nirmal and others.
My two bits :

First you must know the polish you are using. What kind of abrasives does it have ? Is it water based or oil based? Does the abraisives diminish as you polish? A dimishing polish will have its typical buffing cycle. If your pad is drying up - there can be several reasons :

you are working on too large an area with too little product. Look at the instructions on the product. Normally you should work on 2x2 sq ft at a time.

You are too slow with your polisher. The polish is drying up before it breaks down and does its job. This can happen with water based polishes with a rotary due to the heat generated by the polisher. Moisten the pad with a QD if that happens.

Using a rotary at low speeds will not get you the desired results. For paint correction work you must use it at about 1200-1600 rpm. The risk is you can damage the paint if you move slowly and you will not get the results if you move too fast. That is why they say that the rotary is best left to experts.

You can use a white pad (LC standard) with a polish having a medium cut to remove swirls with a rotary at the recommended RPM. Be careful and inspect your work after every couple of passes.

If you have an oppotunity to practice on another car do so before you jump to your new car. That is always recommended.

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Old 22nd January 2011, 03:25   #4113
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I think the best would be shopyourworld.com. they even offer 5% discount on the purchase made through ICICI credit card. Also go in for a 128 oz pack which is priced at Rs. 2500 + 400 shipping. I have bought one and waiting for the delivery to happen anytime now. will keep the forum updated on the performance on the same in Indian conditions.

You may also look at some good microfiber cloth in this site which is cheaper and better.
Thanks much for the info. Wish there was a 64oz ONR bottle - apparently not. Will check with shopyourworld. Looking forward to your review.

I reckon long nap/deep pile MF towels will be ideal ones to use with ONR, and the Monster MF towels from Chemicalguys/Smartwax seemed a good fit. Folks, lemme know if there are better and cheaper alternatives. Thanks again.
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Old 22nd January 2011, 08:23   #4114
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Amit - Can you please list down the exact process that you followed ?
Starting from washing, claying etc to the type of rotary & pad, compound that you used ? Can suggest after understanding what was the different steps that you have followed !

Dreamy - In order of severity of tree sap , i would use 1) A good car shampoo 2) Detailer spray 3) Claying, to remove the tree sap.

Would be difficult to say if a light polishing step would be required unless it has been lying on the paint for quite a while along with other contaminants like bird poo etc.

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- What type of tape are you using ? Did you work in the sunlight ? Some tapes (Abro) have a tendency for the adhesive to melt when exposed to sunlight. Removing these marks are a royal pain ! A stronger IPA concentration/detailer spray should help !
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Androdev
- What type of tape are you using ? Did you work in the sunlight ? Some tapes (Abro) have a tendency for the adhesive to melt when exposed to sunlight. Removing these marks are a royal pain ! A stronger IPA concentration/detailer spray should help !
I am using a masking tape made by Norton. I haven't used it in the sun. I run the DA (felx) polisher such that 1-2cm of the pad's edge runs on the masking tape. After I remove the tape, I see a white line of residual stuff. It also gets very messy where the tape ends. Stronger solvent is worth trying I guess.
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Old 22nd January 2011, 09:37   #4116
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3M professional range is also available in delhi like fast cut compound, Extra fine compound etc . at a reasonable rate of around 1k for one liter .
Whoa! where??

I'd like to give them a try!! (sometimes you literally find jewels in your own backyard! )
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Hey guys,

Sorry for disrupting a highly advanced discussion happening here by asking this noobish query.

Any advice on a good place to get interior cleaning/detailing done in Bangalore. My overhead roof has turned from beige-ish white almost brown.

Also have a zig-zag scratch made by some kids in my area which needs to be looked into apart from small bruises here and there.

Thanks
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Old 22nd January 2011, 17:55   #4118
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Hey guys,

Sorry for disrupting a highly advanced discussion happening here by asking this noobish query.

Any advice on a good place to get interior cleaning/detailing done in Bangalore. My overhead roof has turned from beige-ish white almost brown.

Also have a zig-zag scratch made by some kids in my area which needs to be looked into apart from small bruises here and there.

Thanks

You can get the interior and exterior detailing done from 3M exclusive outlet in bangalore.Check this link for more details

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...bengaluru.html
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Old 23rd January 2011, 23:17   #4119
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Amit - Can you please list down the exact process that you followed ?
Starting from washing, claying etc to the type of rotary & pad, compound that you used ? Can suggest after understanding what was the different steps that you have followed !
thanks Nirmal, well i washed my brand new car with wash and wax. wiped it properly with microfibre cloth.

then i used a microfibre pad on a orbital polisher and used a jopasu ultracoat teflon polish. allowed it to haze and then wiped it out using a clean microfibre cloth again.

the results were amazing and the coat was perfect.
however after some days i saw swirl marks.

either they were present before polising / they came during the polish.

i saw many brand new cars in showroom too with swirl marks. so the probability of my car already having swirls cant be ignored.

however now i want to get rid of them.
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I got the ONR from shopyourworld.com which arrived on Friday. This weekend I tried the same and cleaned the car. My 4 year old car had not seen a complete detailing so far hence did the following -

1. Cleaned the car using ONR (It required 2 full buckets of water and 1 gallon of diluted ONR (1 Oz ONR for a gallon of water)). Good cleaning was achieved.
2. Used Meguiar clay kit and clayed the car. Used ONR with QD concentration as the QD. Very happy with ONR QD but not happy with the claying.some of the residue tar and tree sap still remained on the car. Very effort intensive and time consuming job with not so optimal results.
3. Used ultimate compound and polished the car to remove swirls and scratches (I did it with Hand). Here again the results were not excellent. Lot of effort spent.
4. Applied Collinite 845 wax.
I went through 2-4 steps panel by panel. I used MF cloth to remove QD after claying in step 2 and used sponge applicator to apply and microfibre cloth to remove/buff in case of steps 3 and 4.
total time spent 3 hrs roughly with breaks. Not top quality results. Not thoroughly satisfied nor dissatisfied. maybe my expectation was high from the clay and ultimate compound.
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Hello guys,
Here after a long break. Recently I had to get my car's front bumper repainted and the car was at the garage for a good 3-4 days. This is an open garage, and the painting was not done in a booth.
Now what I notice is that the entire cars surface except the front bumper (and lower panel) feel rough to touch. Earlier I assumed this would be because of due and dust sticking to the surface. So I did a diesel wash (I know its not recommended) and then I washed it with my car shampoo and used Collinite but the roughness is still around.

Then yesterday I used Pril dishwasher and washed one panel at a time and then applied formula 1 polish, but even this has not helped much.

I feel since the car was painted in the open the roughness can be due to the paint spray, I am sure there were other cars that were being painted in the garage. There is no reduction in the car's gleam and I can very much see the metallic flakes in the paint.

I have taken a few pics after yesterday's effort, will attach them in the evening.

So how do i get rid of this roughness? Will claying the car help? Can this be called a clear coat failure?

Looking forward to your replies.

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Hello guys,
Here after a long break. Recently I had to get my car's front bumper repainted and the car was at the garage for a good 3-4 days. This is an open garage, and the painting was not done in a booth.
Now what I notice is that the entire cars surface except the front bumper (and lower panel) feel rough to touch. Earlier I assumed this would be because of due and dust sticking to the surface. So I did a diesel wash (I know its not recommended) and then I washed it with my car shampoo and used Collinite but the roughness is still around.

Then yesterday I used Pril dishwasher and washed one panel at a time and then applied formula 1 polish, but even this has not helped much.

I feel since the car was painted in the open the roughness can be due to the paint spray, I am sure there were other cars that were being painted in the garage. There is no reduction in the car's gleam and I can very much see the metallic flakes in the paint.

I have taken a few pics after yesterday's effort, will attach them in the evening.

So how do i get rid of this roughness? Will claying the car help? Can this be called a clear coat failure?

Looking forward to your replies.

Thanks,
Hiren
Looks like a case of over spray most likely. Claying will remove but based on the amount of overspray, the grade of clay to be used must be altered. Fine grade will not remove it if its stubborn and you may need medium grade. That may cause some marrings which are possible to remove with polishing post claying. Pics may not help that much but still post them, clay it first, its safe!
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^Exactly! If you clay the areas with overspray within 12 hrs after the overspray, almost 100% of it will get removed with any detailing clay!

If the overspray has been on the paint for days and weeks, then you need something more aggressive! (aggressive detailing clay)

btw not many posts from you now a days mkh?
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Looks like a case of over spray most likely. Claying will remove but based on the amount of overspray, the grade of clay to be used must be altered. Fine grade will not remove it if its stubborn and you may need medium grade. That may cause some marrings which are possible to remove with polishing post claying. Pics may not help that much but still post them, clay it first, its safe!
I don't have clay so most likely will need to get some professional help. I could not post pics last nite, will surely do so today.
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^Exactly! If you clay the areas with overspray within 12 hrs after the overspray, almost 100% of it will get removed with any detailing clay!

If the overspray has been on the paint for days and weeks, then you need something more aggressive! (aggressive detailing clay)

btw not many posts from you now a days mkh?
Its been a couple of weeks now, so will need something aggressive.
Any idea where I can source some clay locally? I am based out of Bombay.

Thanks Sohail!
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For information for all - I was looking for some good quality clay for doing my car. and I came across this Auto-Mall.in - Home Sent an email to Sham and he is all out of Mothers clay and expecting a consignment in feb. Cost approx 1000/-. located in Jeevanbhima nagar

Anybody tried this site??
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