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Old 17th August 2011, 13:15   #4726
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@adimicra.

Why don't you try washing the car with shampoo and then applying some Carnuba wax on your own.

Not only do you save money, but its a LOT of fun.
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I am trying to get Porter cable DA polisher, but the guy says it would work at 110-120 volts.

What should I do?

Should I get a converter or search for an Indian one?
110V stepdown Converter for 1000W will be too expensive.
Don't buy it from US or atleast be sure you have buying a 240V one.
Other option is buy from UK which has volt similar rating as it India.
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110V stepdown Converter for 1000W will be too expensive.
Don't buy it from US or atleast be sure you have buying a 240V one.
Other option is buy from UK which has volt similar rating as it India.
Can't anything be had from India?
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Can't anything be had from India?
Check with Sohail99, he has a Dewalt procurred from Delhi. But I guess it has lots of vibrations and is tiring to operate.
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@adimicra.

Why don't you try washing the car with shampoo and then applying some Carnuba wax on your own.

Not only do you save money, but its a LOT of fun.
Point taken, I have decided to purchase a good car wax like Colinite845.
But, is that sufficient?
I thought I will get this treatment done and then do the waxing regularly as required myself to maintain the finish. Also, interiors have never been cleaned thoroughly after i have purchased the car.

I called up another vendor - Shineocar - this guy gave me a quote of 2800 for full interior and exterior cleaning plus paint protection. He uses Diamond Brite products. He is offering a 9 months warranty for the finish and says it will last longer if I maintain it well.

Any feedback on this?
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Point taken, I have decided to purchase a good car wax like Colinite845.
But, is that sufficient?
Once in a while, I like to clean up my car.
Not often as I am not very particular about it.

But a good coat of wax and rubbing it with microfiber cloth gives me very good results.

Try it out. If you are satisfied then its worth it right.

For interiors, I simply spray some colin on the dashboard and wipe it with a soft cloth.
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Old 17th August 2011, 15:12   #4732
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Thanks for the reply.
My car is Honda Jazz
I am pretty much a novice in terms of car detailing.
What they told me is -
First they will wash the car, then they will do some treatment for removing the minor hairline scratches, then they will apply the sealant (some polymer) and polish.
Also, they will clean and shampoo the interiors and apply some sort of interior detailing product to restore the shine and finish.
The entire treatment will take 9-10 hours.

They have a separate treatment for wash and wax and that costs only 700 bucks or so.
They deal exclusively with Meguiar's products.

My main reason for going for detailing is two fold -
When the car was new, the Honda guys had applied some sort of paint protection or teflon coating. So, dirt and water didn't use to stick to the car much making the cleaning job very easy. Lately, I have seen that dirt is sticking more to the paint making the cleaning tougher.
Also, the gloss and shine of a new car is going away slowly but surely.


Kindly give your inputs.
I have talked to Kforce and Glitz car spa in Hyderabad.
My 2 cents
A PROPER surface detailing using the recommended min 3 steps ( claying, compound and sealant) will take about 3-4 hours for sure. If interiors are also done, add another 1 hour. Minor hairline scratches can be removed using an Orbital or DA. If 2-3 people are working in parallel then maybe remove 1-2 hours but nothing less than 4 hours of effort is worth calling proper and professional
The service center guys don't do ANYTHING other than apply some cheap glaze paste, in your case may have applied 3M show car paste it wax that lasted a little more.
NO SEALANT can last 1 year etc like many claim( warranty etc crap-what warranty can they give!). Teflon CANNOT be applied on cars, just search and read a little and you will know. Pro detailing forums( like autogeek) where expert detailers post( who have years of experience) are good sources to check out the authenticity of the so called claims made by shops here in india. Gloss and shine WILL go away, unless you top up wax around 1-2 months. The only way to have gloss and shine remain for longer than 2-3 months is to have no water or anything else rub on the car for days, which is impossible in our conditions. Even in ideal conditions the MAX that a product claims to remain as coating/protection is 12 months. In our conditions- if i apply the BEST sealant and do NOT rub cloth or water on it for more than once a week, it will last 4-6 months MAX. Otherwise 3 months, not more.
Best is to get a proper surface clean up done by a pro who KNOWS what they are doing, and then maintain using the right way- wax once a month and use Micro and Wash Mitt ONLY for washing. For daily use- Duster and micro+ONR

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^Exactly!!!

Whole teflon thing is total hogwash!!! teflon cannot exist on the paint!

And even if its attempted to be applied to the paint, the whole car has to go in a oven where teflon cures at really high temperatures. And for that to take place, your car needs to be dis-assembled completely to prevent all the trim and plastic pieces melting!!

Just rubbing something on with a cloth/sponge or machine is a sealant/wax or at max, an AIO!

Anyways, @adimicra - if you're getting a wax, get a clay kit too and clay the paint before applying collinite845 to increase 845's protective longevity!
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many thanks to you all.
I know about the TEFLON thingy is more of a hogwash.
But, I was hoping that a paint protection or sealant would be good to have and make my life easier.
As I said, I am not going to rely on that only ..I plan to wax my car regularly.


I will get a clay kit and a wax and try things myself.
Can you give me a link so that I can know more about the entire procedure on how to clay and wax the car properly since this is the first time I am gonna try this.? I will also try googling myself.

Also, can you please suggest a good clay kit and how/from where to procure it?
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many thanks to you all.
I know about the TEFLON thingy is more of a hogwash.
But, I was hoping that a paint protection or sealant would be good to have and make my life easier.
As I said, I am not going to rely on that only ..I plan to wax my car regularly.


I will get a clay kit and a wax and try things myself.
Can you give me a link so that I can know more about the entire procedure on how to clay and wax the car properly since this is the first time I am gonna try this.? I will also try googling myself.

Also, can you please suggest a good clay kit and how/from where to procure it?
Go to meguiars and see the 5 step process or search for meguiars 5 step process to know. Many videos online to show how to clay properly. PM me for more information as its more of a repeat on this thread. Good to learn a few things on your own, best of luck!

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Friends can you all tell me whats the right way of working on a car. From what knowledge I have gained I follow these steps. Please tell me if anything is wrong.
1. Washing.
2. Compounding for removing scratches.
3. Claying.
4. Using a sealant like Opti Seal.
5. Last step waxing with Collinite 915.
That's it. Any steps which is wrong, let me know, would be working on my ride this weekend.
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Friends can you all tell me whats the right way of working on a car. From what knowledge I have gained I follow these steps. Please tell me if anything is wrong.
1. Washing.
2. Compounding for removing scratches.
3. Claying.
4. Using a sealant like Opti Seal.
5. Last step waxing with Collinite 915.
That's it. Any steps which is wrong, let me know, would be working on my ride this weekend.
claying should be done first before compounding.
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Many thanks for your detailed reply.
My car is in a good shape. I just want that extra bit of shine and gloss like a new car and I want it to stay as long as possible.
Also, i want to make my cleaning job easier so that dirt and water do not stick to the paint.
I don't know all the details about the particular products but I can get it from them.
They have not asked me to come to them for waxing later. The owner of the shop suggested that I can do it myself.


I don't trust the dealership at all going by past experiences - they are not transparent and I don't have any confidence in them.

What kind of treatment do you suggest?
Adimicra,
Good to know you are planning to take the plunge.

Just go for the following,
MF cloths, good wash mitts, some clay bar, either scratch out or Scratch and swirl remover(TW) & a good wax like Collinite. Which color is your Jazz? If it is a light color my personal preference is 476 and if it is a dark car then I personally would opt for 915. 845 is a liquid and easy to apply. But if you are looking to occasionally wax your car then the 2 paste waxes are the best.

Once you have all these things in hand, you will be the one who will go on admiring your car for a long time.

Let me know if you have any queries, once you obtain these materials.
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Adimicra,
Good to know you are planning to take the plunge.

Just go for the following,
MF cloths, good wash mitts, some clay bar, either scratch out or Scratch and swirl remover(TW) & a good wax like Collinite. Which color is your Jazz? If it is a light color my personal preference is 476 and if it is a dark car then I personally would opt for 915. 845 is a liquid and easy to apply. But if you are looking to occasionally wax your car then the 2 paste waxes are the best.

Once you have all these things in hand, you will be the one who will go on admiring your car for a long time.

Let me know if you have any queries, once you obtain these materials.
Mine is a white colored Jazz. Do you suggest 476?
I have heard very good things about 845..so was thinking to go with that.

I will PM you once I get the stuff.

thanks a lot. really appreciated.
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Mine is a white colored Jazz. Do you suggest 476?
I have heard very good things about 845..so was thinking to go with that.

I will PM you once I get the stuff.

thanks a lot. really appreciated.
Adimicra,
My personal choice is 476 as it really lasts long. 845 is also very good but it does not have a strong shield as 476. If you would like your car to remain pristine 476 is the premier wax with the most protective property, at an affordable price. Also it is not a boutique wax. If you are looking just for the ease of application then 845 would be your choice.
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