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Old 11th July 2013, 07:50   #7621
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For the past few weeks, I have been aggressively looking for a full sized DA to add to my armory. The Meguiar's DA power system is good, but the small pad size and heavy drill takes it's toll.
Now I see it is almost impossible to buy a DA in India as no one sells it. Greenzcarcare.in are out of stock for Kestrel DAS6.
Can anyone provide any pointers on how I can get a genuine DA in India?

Rotaries on the other hand are available freely - but I am thinking twice before picking one up as one wrong step with the rotary can cause irreversible damage to paint.
I've used the DA Pwer system with a 400W drill and frankly got bored of it; takes too much time.

I prefer the rotary a lot more; gets things done up much quicker and finishes just the same, with cutting compounds a bit better thanks to the additional power.

Whatever you choose, you will have to invest heavily on pads and compounds. I have ~8 pads for the rotary and ~9 pads for the DA Power system and not to mention multiple compounds for each stage.

At the end its a choice - 5K Vs 20K? Easy way with DA Vs Experience+Patience with rotary? Do you detail so often is the additional cost justified? Vs Why not get it detailed once by a pro and focus on maintaining it?

In the meantime, found just bout enough time to wet sand another panel

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Old 11th July 2013, 09:43   #7622
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I am using white diluted vinegar(1 part water, 1 part vinegar) to remove previous wax, taking it section by section. Wipe the solution with a wet cloth before giving a fresh coat of wax.
The action gives me a terrific gloss.

My question, am I going wrong somewhere?
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Old 11th July 2013, 14:32   #7623
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915 - One word - AMAZING !!! The first time Im ever in love with a paste wax. Such an easy application, easy buffing off even in this weather - no need to heat or any other efforts. Im in love with paste waxes
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915 - One word - AMAZING !!! The first time Im ever in love with a paste wax. Such an easy application, easy buffing off even in this weather - no need to heat or any other efforts. Im in love with paste waxes
Good results there Partha ! Do apply it on your figo so that we also know how good it looks on light colored cars.
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915 - One word - AMAZING !!! The first time Im ever in love with a paste wax. Such an easy application, easy buffing off even in this weather - no need to heat or any other efforts. Im in love with paste waxes
Awesome! Does 915 go with white color? Where does one buy 915 and how does that compare with 845 on durability?

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Old 11th July 2013, 20:02   #7626
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Good results there Partha ! Do apply it on your figo so that we also know how good it looks on light colored cars.
Thanks. I did put it on one door of my figo but the car wasnt clayed neither was the bike. It was just for monsoon protection. Later, a full detail.

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Awesome! Does 915 go with white color? Where does one buy 915 and how does that compare with 845 on durability?

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915 is supposed to be more durable than 845 plus smells better with white color, you cant expect eye popping results like black, but definitely a gloss will be there.

I got mine from Keystone in Bangalore. BBImpex also sells. The prices are same.
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915 is supposed to be more durable than 845 plus smells better with white color, you cant expect eye popping results like black, but definitely a gloss will be there.
915 is less durable than 845.

Proper carnauba waxes are a delight to use try out more good carnauba waxes, I'm sure you'll abandon using any sealants from now on
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Not sure if this is the right place, Mods can merge this post with the one above.

My car's headlight unfortunately has cataract, the clear plastic on the headlights have got a white haze on them.

So I was at the workshop last week and I saw a pair of discarded headlights from another car, which had hazed too much. I thought I'd give it a go anyway.

Forgot to click befores, but both headlights were in the same state. Bottom one fixed, upper one still as before.

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Both done. yay saved tons of moolah by not having to buy new headlights

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Finish should look a lot better once I use machine polishers all this has been done by hand.
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Amazing results Sunny ! Mount them onto your car or put them on a stand, so that they are fixed and use your rotary with a wood pad + M105. Finish off with a foam pad + polish. Sand down prior if required to remove any scratches.

You will get even better results , and save some moolah to buy more supplies of you know what
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915 is less durable than 845.

Proper carnauba waxes are a delight to use try out more good carnauba waxes, I'm sure you'll abandon using any sealants from now on
SunnyBoi im afraid thats not the case with these collinite waxes. The collinite faqs state 476 as most durable, the 915 and then 845.

Somebody had also pointed it out to me on this thread long back. Heres a screenshot from the Collinite website.

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And you are right about the carnauba. The smell is so nice, and the application was so easy as well as buffing off. 845 is now relegated to alloys duty and yes, sealants are no match like you said.

I get it that they are easy to use and stuff, but to hold a can of carnauba in one hand and rubbing the foam in it etc etc, its more like a sense of occasion compared to using a sealant and getting done with it.

Atleast now I understand, why all your posts are about carnauba next is wet sanding

Someday, I wish i can save up enough to try out Swissvax Crystal Rock.

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Amazing results Sunny ! Mount them onto your car or put them on a stand, so that they are fixed and use your rotary with a wood pad + M105. Finish off with a foam pad + polish. Sand down prior if required to remove any scratches.

You will get even better results , and save some moolah to buy more supplies of you know what
I was reading today, some person used the same method with PlastX on his trim to revive it. You know like abrading the top layer and then protecting what comes beneath. Do you think it can be done with 105 also?

Also what foam pad would yiu advise on these headlights for finishing down?

Sunnyboi did you manage to get your hands on Dlux?

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SunnyBoi im afraid thats not the case with these collinite waxes. The collinite faqs state 476 as most durable, the 915 and then 845.
Thanks; I stand corrected

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I get it that they are easy to use and stuff, but to hold a can of carnauba in one hand and rubbing the foam in it etc etc, its more like a sense of occasion compared to using a sealant and getting done with it.

Atleast now I understand, why all your posts are about carnauba next is wet sanding
ehhhehe it is infact all about the total experience I cant help but keep sniffing at the wax tin of Mothers Carnauba because of the delicious cinnamon smell!

Wet sanding is not required unless your paint is in a really bad shape. Usually caused by repainting.

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Someday, I wish i can save up enough to try out Swissvax Crystal Rock.
Collinite 915 is as good a carnauba wax as any. I have 3 tins of dod juice and trust me, I wont be spending anymore on expensive waxes. Only the ones which are VFM.

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I was reading today, some person used the same method with PlastX on his trim to revive it. You know like abrading the top layer and then protecting what comes beneath. Do you think it can be done with 105 also?
I tried 105 + cutting pad on plastic trim and it burnt through the plastic. NOT RECOMMENDED!

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Sunnyboi did you manage to get your hands on Dlux?
Nope. Dlux plan put on hold indefinitely courtesy of $$$ rates.

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Also what foam pad would yiu advise on these headlights for finishing down?
It depends on the current state of your headlights. I used 400, 600, 1500 grit wet sanding on these headlights; later on used 3M Fine Rubbing compound on them to bring it to the state as shown in the pic.

I'll use a round of 105 + cutting pad and polishing pad + Mothers plastic polish on it. Opticoat it sometime later for permanent protection.

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Amazing results Sunny ! Mount them onto your car or put them on a stand, so that they are fixed and use your rotary with a wood pad + M105. Finish off with a foam pad + polish. Sand down prior if required to remove any scratches.

You will get even better results , and save some moolah to buy more supplies of you know what
Thanks for the advice! I'll be doing it soon; hopefully tomorrow!

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I am using white diluted vinegar(1 part water, 1 part vinegar) to remove previous wax, taking it section by section. Wipe the solution with a wet cloth before giving a fresh coat of wax.
The action gives me a terrific gloss.

My question, am I going wrong somewhere?

As far as I know, vinegar is a descaler - it will dissolve the salts that cause hard water and therefore can dissolve water spots. The gloss that you are getting is because of -

A. Vinegar preventing hard water spots.
B. Waxing afterwards.

i dont know for sure though, how paint safe vinegar is on repeated uses, so Id bring down that dilution to even lesser. Its pretty strong even in lesser concentrations so its more cost effective that way.


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ehhhehe it is infact all about the total experience I cant help but keep sniffing at the wax tin of Mothers Carnauba because of the delicious cinnamon smell!
Yes you feel like you are doing something important - and something more involving. Sealants are ok for most people, but there is something about a tin of carnauba paste wax - and im glad I joined that group today.

cinnamon you say?? Deliciously inedible. even this Megs QD smells of cinnamon.

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Wet sanding is not required unless your paint is in a really bad shape. Usually caused by repainting.
Ive a bit of orange peel, but im scared to try out as its OEM paint and Mr. Nirmal tells oem paints are usually very thin. I do plan on acquiring a panel soon.

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Collinite 915 is as good a carnauba wax as any. I have 3 tins of dod juice and trust me, I wont be spending anymore on expensive waxes. Only the ones which are VFM
Haha what about Autofinesse Illusion. Thats also on my list.

But yes, 915 will last longer than most carnahba waxes and will give such an amazing gloss and deep reflections on darker colors. My next mission is to completely polish the car by next week hopefully and then put 915 on it. Maybe the gloss will be mouth watering like yours.

And maybe ill take one of those pictures, with the tub of collinite sitting on my hood on top of a mf towel - you know the drill haha. The way the wax just melted when dabbing the foam pad today, felt awesome. Its nowhere as hard as many people make it out to be.

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I tried 105 + cutting pad on plastic trim and it burnt through the plastic. NOT RECOMMENDED!
Thanks for the warning. Next week for sure my trim would have gone kaput.

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Nope. Dlux plan put on hold indefinitely courtesy of $$$ rates
Dammit these rates are spoiling all our detailing purchases argh.


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I'll use a round of 105 + cutting pad and polishing pad + Mothers plastic polish on it. Opticoat it sometime later for permanent protection.
Pictures, pictures and then some more pictures please

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Any tips for maintaining powder coated black alloys on my Duster? Any special care in the rains?
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Stay in a appartment with no access to flowing water or electrical point in basement and for washing cars was thinking of a manual agricultural pump sprayer like the one in the website
http://www.kisankraft.com/Products/ManualSprayers.htm

Anybody ever tried this and if yes any pointers where to get them in bangalore

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ever tried this and if yes any pointers where to get them in bangalore

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SP road is your best bet. I dont have any plug in my basement. So have dropped a custom extension wire from my room to the basement. You can try that.

Pressure generated wont be much, but you'll have to do a lot of pumping.
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