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Old 5th September 2013, 16:28   #7906
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I have used almost all formula1 products in the past and I wont recommend them even as a last resort, lol!

All of Formula1 products have abrasives, even waxes(those are called cleaner waxes).

You can buy stuff from Eco car care etc. Loads of places in Bangy sell quality products like Megs, Optimum etc.

With glazes, you'll never be able to permanently sort the problem, it'll keep coming back and you'll have to apply the glaze every week to keep up the appearance!

An acrylic glaze will be best for you, as it'll help a sealant to bond to it!
3M has a few variety of glazes, all of them will work! Be sure to wax/seal the surface after glaze. (follow the instructions on the bottle)
Thanks, will probably go for Megs Ultimate polish initially, followed by sealant as it looks simple. Any sealants from megs.
Later on will look non abraisives.

Planning to go 3M at HSR or Drift in Kormangala, just to buy the polish and sealant. Any idea if they stock above items.
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Formula 1 products available abroad are really good. I have no complaints. Maybe there are fakes or diluted/compromised versions circulating there.

[quote=sohail99;3228939]I have used almost all formula1 products in the past and I wont recommend them even as a last resort, lol!

All of Formula1 products have abrasives, even waxes(those are called cleaner waxes).

You can buy stuff from Eco car care etc. Loads of places in Bangy sell quality products like Megs, Optimum etc.
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Will the sealants also have bonding issues over Megs UP? How do we protect the paint in that case?

The second query is what is the exact effect of using polishes like Megs UP or any other polish. Does it lead to thinning of the coat and is harmful in the long run? Or does it only do the job of filler? If its only a filler then will it be useful in getting rid of minor scratches where the paint is intact but on a very close inspection a line is visible?
Some of the sealants may have bonding issues , but it not the case if you are using megs products over megs UP.

Megs UP is a little abrasive (close to megs 205) but will not be that much to thin your clear coat , remember you are applying that with hand applicator.And you will not use it very frequently , even a coat quarterly a year will not do any harm according to me
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Where can I get/order some fine sandpaper? I can see 3M has 1500 / 2000 / 3000 grit ones available. Anyone knows where I can buy them?
It shall be great of they are sanding discs with hook and loop backing which I can use with my DA.
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Where can I get/order some fine sandpaper? I can see 3M has 1500 / 2000 / 3000 grit ones available. Anyone knows where I can buy them?
It shall be great of they are sanding discs with hook and loop backing which I can use with my DA.
You can contact Excellarate Motors (https://www.facebook.com/excellerate.mot) who is Meguiar's distributor for Kolkata. They may be able to help.
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Where can I get/order some fine sandpaper? I can see 3M has 1500 / 2000 / 3000 grit ones available. Anyone knows where I can buy them?
It shall be great of they are sanding discs with hook and loop backing which I can use with my DA.
I picked up a huge stash of fine sandpapers over 6 years ago. Got a few of them here :

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I have a few sheets of 3000 grit as well somewhere up in the attic. I restrict myself to 2000 grit since 105 + rotary can remove 2000 marks easily without needing 2500 or 3000 refinish.

I find it difficult to get anything more than 1500 in the market. No one stocks them since no body shop foes beyond 1500 grit while wet sanding. If you find some, do let me know!

Meguiars India does not sell either sandpapers or sanding discs. If you want sanding discs, contact Keystone, I saw boxes of 1500 and 3000 grit Meguiars sanding discs in his inventory.

Washed my ZMA after a year and gave it a coat of M21.

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Got some more stuff. Keystone and Greenzcarcare have brought in autogeek and gtechniq product ranges to India. Somehow managed to get my hands on few of the stuff, before they went out of stock.

Got Lake Country CCS orange, white and black pads as well as CCS orange hand cutting pad. As well as a fantastic Gtechniq rotary backing plate, something which I was thinking of ordering from the UK, but now its here in India as well.

Got grit guard, daytona speed master brush, wool pad spur among other items like nitrile gloves, wolfgang finger pockets.

Good for me, that now we have a local person to get autogeek items from. No more having to bear headaches of customs and all that.


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Just got a new idea. Used the grit guard to wash my pad on it. Steps followed were:-

1. Put the grit guard in a bucket with water.

2. Let it soak for 5 to 10 mins

3. Scrub pad against the grit guard gently and watch all the compound come off.

4. If one has a drill attachment with a backing plate sort of velcro, then you can attach the pad, and use it inside the bucket against the grit guard to clean it even better.

5. The other alternative is to use a narrow bucket and have the grit guard tucked in nicely near the top of the bucket. Then, we can attach the pad to the rotary and scrub it against the grit guard.

From now I shall be cleaning all my pads this way, saved me a lot of time.

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As well as a fantastic Gtechniq rotary backing plate, something which I was thinking of ordering from the UK, but now its here in India as well.
...so did you buy a rotary?

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Just got a new idea. Used the grit guard to wash my pad on it. Steps followed were:-

1. Put the grit guard in a bucket with water.

2. Let it soak for 5 to 10 mins

3. Scrub pad against the grit guard gently and watch all the compound come off.

4. If one has a drill attachment with a backing plate sort of velcro, then you can attach the pad, and use it inside the bucket against the grit guard to clean it even better.

5. The other alternative is to use a narrow bucket and have the grit guard tucked in nicely near the top of the bucket. Then, we can attach the pad to the rotary and scrub it against the grit guard.

From now I shall be cleaning all my pads this way, saved me a lot of time.
I simply moist the pads, spray APC, massage with fingers for 20 seconds and then wash off. Gets clean enough all the time.
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Old 6th September 2013, 01:30   #7914
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...so did you buy a rotary?

I simply moist the pads, spray APC, massage with fingers for 20 seconds and then wash off. Gets clean enough all the time.
Yes I bought Bumblebee Dewalt Dwp849x. And then I used flex at Keystone and fell in love with that machine :P

Yes, I used to follow the same that you do. But this method also saves you time and bit of squeezing effort. And no APC.
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Yes I bought Bumblebee Dewalt Dwp849x. And then I used flex at Keystone and fell in love with that machine :P
Fantastic! I've always wanted to get the DeWalt, I nearly bought that instead of the SKIL last time!

Want to get your opinion as to why did you get a rotary despite having a DA?

The flex is an amazing tool - Its so small and light weight!

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And no APC.
What do you use to clean pads then Plain water?
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Fantastic! I've always wanted to get the DeWalt, I nearly bought that instead of the SKIL last time!

Want to get your opinion as to why did you get a rotary despite having a DA?

The flex is an amazing tool - Its so small and light weight!



What do you use to clean pads then Plain water?
Well Sunny I needed the rotary as its a good tool to have in your arsenal and many detailers keep saying that unless one masters t the rotary one is never a true detailer. SO it was sort of a challenge to myself to learn the rotary. My choices were between Makita and Skil earlier. Then I came across one review thread of Mike Philips where he has praised the Dewalt. That and the pricing less than Makita has moved me to buy the dewalt.

Its a well balanced machine I felt, but then I used the flex today and I was floored by that machine. Both are smooth, but the lightweight flex doesnt give you backache at the end of the day.

The gtechniq backing plate is excellent for the rotary. The foam has the right amount of flex to it and it works excellent with the LC pads which I found out today. I was thinking of ordering it from the UK earlier, when Keystone informed me about their latest import. Cash on delivery also tilted me towards the local sources

I cleaned the pads with plain water. Earlier I would use APC, now I try to use it as less as possible. In case of fresh compounding, pad is cleaned easily with water. If the compound has dried and all, then very diluted APC if the pad doesnt get cleaned in the first try. Whatever method suits you the best.

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A friend with a few supplies is returning from US soon, and I thought I would break out the DA after that.
But looking at today being a bright n sunny (albeit a humid) one, decided that I would try out the Kestrel-Deltalyo DAS6 power+.
Now my car has quite a few scratches, both shallow and deep, as my running includes traversing very densely packed market area streets everyday.
The bicycles & rickshaws are careless, footpath shopkeepers place all types of stuff all around the road (crates, concrete blocks etc), and cars jostle to fit on the road.

One such incident of jostling for space with a Indica gave my car a bad scar on the driver side rear fender just above the wheel arch.
Today after the shampoo wash, the area looked like this:

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After couple of passes by the LC yellow pad + Megs UC, the scratch amounted to this:

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Now the reason I was searching for sanding discs is that I feel maybe wetsanding can fix this totally.
What do the experienced gurus say? please help!

Regarding the DAS6 power+, its a heavy machine, and gives out the impression of being VERY solidly built. I used the 6" backing plate supplied with it (there is another 5" one) to use the LC 6.5" yellow CCS pad.
Pros: Solid build, long wire, 2 backing plates, easy to reach on/off switch ,convenient speed dial
Cons: heavy, noticeable vibrations while using at high speeds, on/off switch is hard.
But after using a real DA for the first time, I realized that in-spite of the cons, using a DA can speed up the detailing process multiple times to that of detailing by hand, all the while spending less energy in the procees.

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Now the reason I was searching for sanding discs is that I feel maybe wetsanding can fix this totally.
Wetsanding cannot fix your problem totally.

Pour water over the scratches. Do the scratches disappear? If yes it is possible. If they persist then they've struck through clear coat and base coat, only option is to repaint the panel.

Talking about wetsanding, got a different brand of sandpaper for tomorrow's wetsanding session:

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It had been a while since I polished the car. Clayed using Mothers Clay, brought out the rotary with LC White pad + Autoglym SPR and sealed with 4* UPP. WIll add a coat of Mothers Carnauba wax later on.

End results:

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Met Mr. Mohsin of Ultimate detailerz today. Got two products from him. Ultima waterless wash plus and UPGP.

Gonna try them out soon on my car. From the calculations he gave me, UWW+ can last me actually more than a year. The packaging of the stuff is cute though.

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just want to see if this stands upto the hype that the foreign forums tell about it.

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