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Old 18th February 2006, 15:45   #46
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Just wondering,

How is that gonna behave when it is covered in wet monsoon offroading muck, since is it an exposed filter ?

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Hi,

Check this link out for the solution.

http://www.knfilters.com/wraps.htm
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Old 18th February 2006, 18:11   #47
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Oh My!!!
My office blocks Team-BHP and I look what I missed!!!!

Good choice with the engine GTO!

When I pulled the 1.8 from my conti, I was thinking of putting it in the classic... well, with the cost of the conti conversion, i had to put those plans on hold... and the damn garage guy sold my engine for 1500/- !!!
Wish I still had it... It had done only 36000 Km and was in amazing shape!

Maybe I could have got my conversion done right after GTO's. After all the trial and error on GTO's Classic, mine would be a walk in the park!

Do post pics... will really be looking forward to see how it comes along!

btw, off-topic, but by changing the engine, does that not mean that there will be no more Mahindra Great Escapes for you.... ?

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Old 18th February 2006, 18:17   #48
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While we are on the topic, why not try the Isuzu 4FG1 diesel? 2.4L, 78bhp. I think falcon has it in his Conti.
Adi bro, 1.8 ISZ only. Proven stuff. Cheap and easy to replace (you know my case). Smooth.
I agree! the 1.8 Petrol was just great!
I did find the running costs a little high for daily use... so opted for the 2.4 Diesel, and have no problems with that as yet.
If it was the Classic, I too would have considered the 1.8 Petrol!
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Dont go for a ISUZU 1.8 L Petrol for the JEEP.
It doesnot have adequate torque 13Kgm @ 3300RPM.
The XD4.9P has better torque characteristics 12Kgm @ 2000RPM.

Other engines i would suggest
1) XD3P -
2) Scorpio Diesel
3) Isuzu SS 2.5 -Tavera
4) Toyata Qualis.

It is not easy to mate the Transfer case to just any G-box.

Stick to the 4 Spd or get a BA10 4WD.
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It doesnot have adequate torque 13Kgm @ 3300RPM.
The XD4.9P has better torque characteristics 12Kgm @ 2000RPM.
But, my maths teacher told me 13 is greater than 12.

@GTO: What have u done to ur 2.1 Pug engine??
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Got in late on the actio here but glad to see GTO chose the 1.8 ISZ. I had a conti and drove it hard from 1989-1996 and the engine never falied to impress. And when i mean hard I mean hard - dukes of hazzard hard.

the only thing is that the 1.8L ISZ does drink. Best avgs i got were about 8kmpl.

Now that the engine is settled some of us over at ICE wonder if there is any hope for a decent stereo being introduced into the Boss man's JEEP. What say guys?
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But, my maths teacher told me 13 is greater than 12.
And 2000 is sooner than 3300...

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how a bout a snorkel??
The driver would have to be waist deep in water (in a car without doors!) before that thing was of any use lol!

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Check this link out for the solution.
http://www.knfilters.com/wraps.htm
Thanks viper, have seen these before, but i dont think they will really help in really mucky conditions, stock airbox with its length of pipe to it will do a better job i feel.

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Thanks viper, have seen these before, but i dont think they will really help in really mucky conditions, stock airbox with its length of pipe to it will do a better job i feel.

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Hi,

Maybe you are right. Dont know anything about offroading. Guess Rush would be the best to know to what extent the muck reaches the filter location. The wraps are adequate for extreme dusty conditions but for muck cant comment.

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Now that the engine is settled some of us over at ICE wonder if there is any hope for a decent stereo being introduced into the Boss man's JEEP. What say guys?[/quote]


thats a nice idea but i have not seen anyone fit stereos in jeeps.. fear of theft is always a concern since the jeep is open.. but if you guys do convince him to put one up i would love to see the pics..
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if there is any hope for a decent stereo being introduced into the Boss man's JEEP. What say guys?
Ask and thou shall receive. Single CD player + 2 300W Pioneer speakers on a custom boombox + Sony Amplifier well hiden behind dashboard. Look at the left of this picture :



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Hey GTO. The 80" wheelbase jeep with an isuzu 5spd gearbox will allow you just about 1.5 feet of prop shaft! (Thats the reason why i am wondering how the stock transfer case will fit)
Absolutely. It is a HUGE issue. Butttttttttttttttttttt Mahindra made the 540 with a 1.8 engine. We are trying to source this Isuzu 5 speed gearbox which has a 4x4 support built within.

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btw, off-topic, but by changing the engine, does that not mean that there will be no more Mahindra Great Escapes for you.... ?
You kidding me? Whats a Jeep without an off-roading lifestyle!

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@GTO: What have u done to ur 2.1 Pug engine??
Its lying around, but I intend to sell it off by delivery date.

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Dont go for a ISUZU 1.8 L Petrol for the JEEP.
It doesnot have adequate torque 13Kgm @ 3300RPM.
The XD4.9P has better torque characteristics 12Kgm @ 2000RPM.

Other engines i would suggest
1) XD3P -
2) Scorpio Diesel
3) Isuzu SS 2.5 -Tavera
4) Toyata Qualis.

It is not easy to mate the Transfer case to just any G-box.

Stick to the 4 Spd or get a BA10 4WD.
I have off-roaded in the factory Mahindra 540 with the Isuzu 1.8, and the beast was sure as hell capable. And the fact that it was far superior in daily driving patterns.

The 540 Isuzu gearbox should solve any potential matching problems.

Thanks a ton for the support to the petrol move.

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The MM ISZ comes with a BA10 derived MSG 5T.

The Isuzu 5spd 4WD G-boxes are typical of ISUZU Trooper's this will result in re-aligning the rear diff to the centre.

To support your move towards petrol .............
L4-134 Go- Devil
F4-134 Hurricane
Tata Safari Petrol Engine
Scorpio Petrol REV119
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[quote=nitrous]But, my maths teacher told me 13 is greater than 12.

So did mine...............thats why I mentioned torque charcteristics.

When torque is available at lower RPM it is more useable.

When Torque comes at Higher RPMs the gearing ratios have to be suitably lowered, necessary to maintain control.

If any of you have used a CJ500D (B275 aka MD2350 aka International) JEEP
off-the-road you will understand it first hand.
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The MM ISZ comes with a BA10 derived MSG 5T.

The Isuzu 5spd 4WD G-boxes are typical of ISUZU Trooper's this will result in re-aligning the rear diff to the centre.

To support your move towards petrol .............
L4-134 Go- Devil
F4-134 Hurricane
Tata Safari Petrol Engine
Scorpio Petrol REV119
Hi,

As per the Mahindra dealers there is another gearbox and not the MSG 5T. Anyways as of now we are stuck on account of non-availability of a matching 5 speed gearbox for the Isuzu 1.8l engine. Unless someone can help us out with one in the next 2 days we will be running the car on the Isuzu gearbox in 2 WD mode temporarily, until we find a 4x4 solution.

Anybody who can help out with the same pl contact either GTO or myself via pm or on 9821421948.

Thanks,

Viper

PS - We are also looking at disposing the existing 4WD gearbox so if anyone interested let us know.
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Can you give details of exactly what part is required by year/ model/ engine details may be i can help, i know few people who are top OEM suppliers to mahindra from mumbai & punjab specializing in engine parts gearbox etc..
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I could help you get an isuzu 4spd 4wd gearbox for about 12K ex Madurai. No work necessary on the gearbox. It will be a bolt on.
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