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Rebuild the diesel. You have torque, reliability and a factory fit feel 17 30.36%
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Old 15th February 2006, 18:00   #1
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Default Jeep engine packed up!! 130,000 kms up. Options?

And so it happened last evening. Inevitably, the CJ 2.1 liter Peugeot diesel packed up. I was coming back from Valentines celebration doing about 60km/h in 4th gear and hear a loud "DHUPP". The engine stalls and there is all smoke around. I open up the bonnet and loads of burning smell.

The engine did start again, but I shut it immediately to avoid any potential further damage. She was hesitating even in idling.

Milestone (Mahindra service station) is yet to do a diagnosis. But I seriously think its an engine rebuild. 137,000 kms up without any engine work and only regular oil changes. Thats a lot of kilometers for a standard Mahindra as others require a rebuild around the 90,000 km mark (According to Milestone). For the past 4 - 6 months, I could feel a loss in engine compression across all rpm ranges.

The big question - Rebuild or implant a 1.8 Liter Isuzu? Both are going to cost the same. Advantage with rebuild is reliability and "factory fit" feel. However, the Isuzu will add unbelievably more muscle and refinement. There are ways that the 4x4 can be retained with the Isuzu also.

Coincidentally, her birthday was on the 10th of February too. 1997 delivery and a great 9 years of service.

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1.8 Isuzu. I've seen what that engine can do, and I think so have you.
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SINCE your driving habits seem to be on the calm side advisable to go for rebuild. just focus to see what u r planning to have out of ur engine is it just pure driving fun or u need some off roading in your weekend activities. if off roading then do some mods and get the 1.8 isuzu.
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I am not an expert or anything of that sort in this field but both engines have their pros and cons

Diesel
More torque, Better FE and reliability and "factory fit".But overall lesser power.

Petrol
More power and i dont think maintainence should be a problem because even HM uses the same engine for their amby, lesser FE

If i were you i would go with the petrol
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Hey ,

I can get you a complete 1.8l petrol engine with gearbox and all for a price lesser than your rebuild. I do not know if you can retain the 4x4 though.

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Old 15th February 2006, 19:08   #6
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Sad to hear that GTO, but it was a matter of time.

On the brighter side, you can now give her some go.

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The big question - Rebuild or implant a 1.8 Liter Isuzu? Both are going to cost the same. Advantage with rebuild is reliability and "factory fit" feel. However, the Isuzu will add unbelievably more muscle and refinement. There are ways that the 4x4 can be retained with the Isuzu also.
Are you looking at the 1.8 Isuzu petrol? Why dont you look at the 2 litre Isuzu Diesel and bolt on the Turbocharger used in the Sonalika MPV?
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As Jeremy Clarkson would say
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Old 15th February 2006, 19:24   #8
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I am not too sure about your jeep model but you should take a look at this thread

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...gine-jeep.html (What new engine for Jeep ?)
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Old 15th February 2006, 19:25   #9
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For a 4x4 off-roader, I would stick with a diesel (may be bigger diesel ) I say, leave "dragging" part to VTecs and Mercs.
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the Isuzu will add unbelievably more muscle and refinement. There are ways that the 4x4 can be retained with the Isuzu also.
You've seen that engine on a much heavier body..you know what it can do. 4X4 can be retained as you said...not to mention our old talks about plonking ISZ.
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SINCE your driving habits seem to be on the calm side advisable to go for rebuild
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I dont know if a petrol engine will suit the character of a Mahindra. Simply dosent sound right ! Not to mention higher running costs.
I would try to find an 2.6 DI Scorpio engine. That would be one hell of a machine. Even a Sumo turbo engine should suffice.
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Arrow Isuzu

i'd recommend the Isuzu 1.8l, not because it performs better but because its one of the tested reliable engines, and if you can source one in good condition or better still, a new one, then its a given that it'll give you trouble free service for a long time.

if you're sure that it can be coupled with 4x4, then you're all set.

the only reason i would recommend a rebuild of the Peugeot is if you're concerned with the torque characteristics off-road. i really don't know how the 2 engines compare in that respect.

a third option (if that's feasible enough for you - a lot of factors involved, ofcourse..) could be to source a crate motor from foreign shores, eg. Power Pro Driveline, ALPAR and try to shoehorn that into your Classic.

anyways, here's a site which you and other Jeepsters might find useful - 4x4 Wire's Jeep Tech.

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thinking of a jeep i would see that it has loads of torque in low revs as is all jeeps are meant for lugging, offroading, and high speeds is best left to cars. as some person said try sourcing a sumo / scorpio engine.
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1st a black amby , then a grey conti and i can see GTO's jeep wanting to run the same engine too .. Go ahead GTO , u know how these cars move .. Only expecting better results on ur beauty ..
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While we are on the topic, why not try the Isuzu 4FG1 diesel? 2.4L, 78bhp. I think falcon has it in his Conti.
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