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Old 7th September 2011, 12:10   #16
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Default Re: Remote unlock wont work, sets off alarm on manual unlock

if the remote(s) is(are) not working, change the batteries - generally it is a DIY. check if the small LED (if present) is working.

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spare remote, if unused, may discharge over a period of time - I keep switching the remotes every 2-3 months.

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Thanks for all your suggestions guys.I dont want to create a racket waking up all the neighbours after I get free from work late in the evening or early in the day by fiddling around with this.

It was a hectic workday, did not get time to call the A.S.S. Will do so ASAP though. After replacing the batteries that is. Dont want to appear like a dork if its indeed the batteries in the remote at fault.

I mean I had called the A.S.S, they told me to bring it over or call Maruti's helpline if I cant. Got majorly irritated with this response and then hung up.

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If its same result then it would be too much of a coincidence - I would rule out battery dying out in both of them at the same time . Usually the batteries last at least for 3-4 years, does the keys have any lights which glow when pressed? It looks like some malfunction in the receiver of your base unit since you say nothing is happening. There may either be lack of power supply to the base unit (simple problem ) or a malfunction in the receiving or decoding function of the base unit which is why its not able to decode the instruction of the remote key .
Even I have a suspicion that the battery may not be the culprit. There was no 'fading' of any sort in the run upto this.

My key is similar to the one shown here (Taken from Racer_x's review thread).



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Ojas, please check the manual of the Nippon security system. You should be able to enter a code to disable the alarm using a combination of the alarm button on the dashboard and by using the door. This should be explained in the manual.

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Biju, there is no separate security system manual, since it was factory fitted , but the user manual states I can disable the alarm using the default code shared with me by the dealer. Umm, I dont recall anything of that sort every being shared, but will try with the 1234 that was suggested here.

I may need to read in more detail, but a preliminary glance at the manual instructs me to use the buttons on the remote itself to enter security codes.

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Remove the fuse to the security system from the fuse box. Your hazard lights wont work but you can get the car running. Alternatively you can disconnect the security system by disconnecting the power supply wires of the system connected to the battery (easily identifiable thin wires). Be sure you tape off the open ends to avoid short circuit. After this you can drive to the workshop and get it fixed.
This fuse is shared by the horn too actually. Dont want to drive around with the most important of all safety features not working. Thanks for your suggestion though, let me check what is possible.

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Don't drive like that!
Cops might stop you & it might get really embarrassing .

Most probably, the central locking 'box' is faulty. Check for water seepage in the passenger & driver footwells. The alarm siren will have only one wire going to it & it will most probably have a push in connector. Disconnect it & the siren will no longer sound.
Ohh, thanks, didnt know water seepage in the footwells could be a culprit. I havent checked for it though. Will do today if I manage to reach home early.

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Once it happened to me.. so irritating, i cut off the beeper and threw it away. i never liked the beeper, now it just blinks/flashes to confirm the lock and unlock and i like it that way.
I rather like the beeper, its reassuring.

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The same happened to my car few days. Remote batteries died and on manual opening, the alarm starts to buzz. However, in my case, i locked the car doors from inside after starting the car and the alarm used to go off. Please try the same and see, if it helps.
Manual lock didnt help. I tried it yesterday.

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open the bay, look for the bullhorn(usually near the firewall), look for the clip connector and disconnect it .

This will disable the noise only, though.
the alarm is till on, so next stop in this quiet car should be your nippon dealer/installer.
The system is factory fitted, no separate nippon dealer/installer as a result.

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if the remote(s) is(are) not working, change the batteries - generally it is a DIY. check if the small LED (if present) is working.

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spare remote, if unused, may discharge over a period of time - I keep switching the remotes every 2-3 months.
Thanks planet_rocker da. There are no visibile glowing LEDs on the key. Let me check by opening it up anyway today evening.

Why do these things not happen on weekends! My days are jam packed till Saturday.
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Old 7th September 2011, 17:45   #18
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Thanks planet_rocker da. There are no visibile glowing LEDs on the key. Let me check by opening it up anyway today evening..
can you manually lock / unlock the car now, without activating the security / alarm?

does the LED on the dash-board (beside front fog lamp switch) glowing / blinking?

The battery will be "button-type" - C25 model or something similar, readily available with your friendly neighbourhood watch store / watch repair-wala.

all the best.

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can you manually lock / unlock the car now, without activating the security / alarm?

does the LED on the dash-board (beside front fog lamp switch) glowing / blinking?

The battery will be "button-type" - C25 model or something similar, readily available with your friendly neighbourhood watch store / watch repair-wala.

all the best.
I can manually unlock, but it sets off the alarm. And it wont stop until I lock the doors from outside again. Starting the engine, locking/unlocking from inside doesnt make the slightest of the difference.
The light next to the dashboard is glowing. It could just be me, but seems to be fainter than before.

The battery seems to be a CR232 kinda battery. I may have one lying around my home too.
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How old is the car Battery?

if you have WD-40 handy > unlock the car manually with the key > spray good amount of WD-40 on the visible locking mechanism on the door > Shut the door & lock it > Repeat (unlock and lock it again.

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Car battery is fine. Starts up fine in first crank too.

Dont have WD40 lying around unfortunately.
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Biju, there is no separate security system manual, since it was factory fitted , but the user manual states I can disable the alarm using the default code shared with me by the dealer. Umm, I dont recall anything of that sort every being shared, but will try with the 1234 that was suggested here.
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Ojas, in the older Nippon Security system, the method to disable the alarm is the following:
  • Turn the ignition ON, OFF and then ON
  • Enter the FIRST digit (for e.g. to enter 2 press and release valet switch twice)
  • Turn the ignition OFF and then ON
  • Enter the SECOND digit
  • Turn the ignition OFF and then ON
  • Enter the THIRD digit
  • Turn the ignition OFF and then ON
  • Enter the LAST digit
  • Turn the ignition OFF and then ON.
  • The vehicle should get disarmed.
The factory default code is 1111.

Valet switch is the switch on the dashboard which has the LED light that shows if the car alarm is disabled or not.
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Car battery is fine. Starts up fine in first crank too.

Dont have WD40 lying around unfortunately.

Why dont you try one thing: Unlock the door manually- alarm starts, get in, close the door, lock the door using the key by reaching out through the window . I suppose it should work this way.
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Default Re: Remote unlock wont work, sets off alarm on manual unlock

Simple work around.
-Unlock the door manually.Let the alarm go off.
-Open the bonet and disconnect the battery. That will reset the alarm system.
-The alarm will stop shrieking.
- Now manually lock the doors.

This way you will be able to unlock manually without the alarm setting off.
This can be followed till you get the problem sorted out from the A.S.S.
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did you try and disconnect the bullhorn in the bay?
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The factory default code is 1111.

Valet switch is the switch on the dashboard which has the LED light that shows if the car alarm is disabled or not.
Thanks a bunch Biju.

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Why dont you try one thing: Unlock the door manually- alarm starts, get in, close the door, lock the door using the key by reaching out through the window . I suppose it should work this way.
Thats a long winded solution but it just might work!

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Simple work around.
-Unlock the door manually.Let the alarm go off.
-Open the bonet and disconnect the battery. That will reset the alarm system.
-The alarm will stop shrieking.
- Now manually lock the doors.

This way you will be able to unlock manually without the alarm setting off.
This can be followed till you get the problem sorted out from the A.S.S.
Thanks, will try.

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did you try and disconnect the bullhorn in the bay?
Nope dude.Been super busy for yesterday and expected to continue today atleast. When I get free at night, dont want my neighbours yelling. Since I myself have been complaining about late night noisy reverse horns.

BTW : The battery for the key is a CR1625 rated at 3V.
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Battery Battery Battery... Replace the dying battery (We cannot keep hitting the key remote like one's of our TV)
Happened to me for the first time, I didnt gave it much head. Than one of these day I found myself in situation at a hospitals parking. It was as if I am stealing my own car :-)

Also, PjBiju has given a very linear way to solution (in case of emergency).
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Same was the case with me. Two year old remote battery gave up, changed it with a local one which didnt last for 2 months! So, opened the spare remote and put that battery. Unfortunately, there is loose contact between the battery pins, hence need to press the remote hard before locking/ unlocking!
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Same was the case with me. Two year old remote battery gave up, changed it with a local one which didnt last for 2 months! So, opened the spare remote and put that battery. Unfortunately, there is loose contact between the battery pins, hence need to press the remote hard before locking/ unlocking!
gap between battery and pin?
wad it with aluminium foil(single surface, dont wrap the battery).
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Default The curious case of the wonky remote.

An update guys.
Today morning I procured a CR1620 battery (not 1625 as I said earlier) and replaced it in the remote. Result was the same. Replaced in the spare key. Again same. So that ruled out a faulty battery and a faulty key.

Then I followed Biju's method to disarm the system. Took 8-9 tries, but finally it was disarmed as I took the key out of the slot and not just switch it off everytime before hitting the security alarm key.
Alarm thus disabled, drove this afternoon to Chowgule's A.S.S. Explained the problem to them. A mechanic came in, fiddled something in the hood, armed the system again and then viola , it started working again.
I personally tried lock and unlock at his place for about 10 times. Worked like a charm.
When asked what the problem was, I was informed that "remote aur system ka tuning chala gaaya tha". (Remote and alarm system were out of tune). When asked what he did (he flipped something like a switch or twisted a knob or something, which I just cannot locate now) or what to do in case it happens again, I was informed that I should bring it in, as today.
Okay, happy in the knowledge that my problem was solved I drove home carefully on the pot-holed roads. And once home..wait for this...it stopped working again. The good thing is, I realised it was not working as I was attempting to lock the car with the remote.
All sorts of thoughts came in my mind that this spot may be affected with a powerful electromagnetic field () and thats probably interfering with the remote, I got in , drove off for some distance and tried unlock/lock again. Andd...nothing happened really. It was as if I was trying to work on a car which was not fitted with an alarm system at all.
Disappointed, drove back to my usual parking spot, took the key out of the slot and...the alarm started shrieking. Again. D'oh.
In a semi-panic state, I hit the lock button. And double D'oh. It starts working again. Just to check, locked and unlocked it a few dozen times. Worked like a charm, all the time.
Need to get the system thoroughly inspected. Maybe on Monday now.

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