Battery Replacement... - Page 2 - Team-BHP

Rudra Sen · 27th April 2006, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Let me also add that it's not like a HUGE dimming or anything, just that Rudra's a fussy sort of chap that cannot tolerate the slightest imperfection

My dear Sir, can we eliminate that slightest imperfection? Don't tell me it can't be done...

jkdas · 27th April 2006, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

I intend to upgrade to a slightly bigger woofer amp (PA275) in both cars. That would increase capabity maginally and will report if this marignal increase pushed my battery to the point where light dimming is noticed.

PA is one of teh smallest amp I have seen. I get your point Navin ( you meant more wattage

)

As I said my car has a PA275 and Pio 6000f; no dimming and teh battery is OEM ( I doono which; will chck if needed for you guys)

Karthik, what next?

zulfikar · 28th April 2006, 08:47

well should have gone for Amaron...
i had installed it in my old sierra...
didnt give any problems till 3.5 years after which i sold the car so done know if the new owner had any isssues...

basilmabraham · 28th April 2006, 09:12

The battery on my Palio D went dead once. My wife was driving and was trying to manipulate a steep climb from stall. The ac and the music system was on. The engine stopped a few times as she wasnt an expert. This happened for a few times. And then the car wudnt start at all.
The battery had gone dead. I poured in some distilled water in the battery cells, most of them were dry (lack of maintenance). Waited for a few hours and with some help from neighbours got the vehicle jump started. Left the engine on for some time for the battery to charge. There was no problems after that.

Now, I am away from home and the car has been lying almost idle for a month now, only weekly starts by my good neighbour. It seems the battery has died again and the car wont start.

I guess all this happened because of my careless maintenance of the battery. Can anyone give tips on how to properly maintain the battery in a car. Also suggest replacements for the stock palio battery.

Sorry if there has already been a post on this topic.

karthik247 · 28th April 2006, 11:13

New batteries are like maintainance free. So it would be best to get those, and once in a while checkup would be helpful too

basilmabraham · 28th April 2006, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by karthik247

New batteries are like maintainance free. So it would be best to get those, and once in a while checkup would be helpful too

Karthik are the maintenance free ones without the opening on the top. The one i had did have openings for fill ups. Wonder why palio came with this one. They shud have put in a maintenance free one.

satish_appasani · 28th April 2006, 11:53

My Palio D (August 2004) came with a Exide Freedom battery. The battery once died when the car was still in warranty. Got it freely replaced.

wolfinstein · 28th April 2006, 12:07

Maintaince Free Battery, Does not mean it should be sealed or so..I have seen maintaince free battery with openings on the top for having an ocassionla top up of electrolyte or battery water + No battery can be completely sealed as the battery releases Fumes, for which it needs to have gas vents on the top..!

karthik247 · 28th April 2006, 22:27

Yes, even maintaince batteries have openings on top for occasional refills

navin · 29th April 2006, 09:58

Funny. Sam I am running 2 amps in each of my cars) and have no issues with dimming.

maybe my moderate power needs keeps the issue contained. and trust me I am as fussy as Rudra.

Rudra Sen · 29th April 2006, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

and trust me I am as fussy as Rudra.

OK Sir...what should I do to sort this out? You tell me what to do and I'll follow your instruction..blindly.

jkdas · 29th April 2006, 10:25

Thats what I was thinking too. I have two amps and my setup is fine. There should be some problem with Rudras. (can someone check teh ICE of a stock Optra; by playing it at full volume. )

Navin, dont ask Rudra to redo the whole wiring!

low_bass_makker · 1st May 2006, 01:31

If one has spent 5k on a battery U must go for optima it is avalable in india through amron itself and it cost nearly 10k.I does not need a refill it is sealed

Revvhead · 1st May 2006, 10:01

The best cure for this, is when you are off for a month or so, is to disconnect your battery. That way it wont drain.
Weekly starts are all fine, but asfter you start (or rather your neighbour)
how long do you run it and at what revs.
Just a start, very short idle run and stop will only drain the battery without recharing it. Its worse than not starting at all.Remeber its startingt that sucks the most juice out.

So the other option is start and run ofr 5 mins or so, and revv the engine a bit when you do.
My Fiat had an ammeter, so you could see exactly at what revs the carging was happening.
Else your best bet is to Discoonect your battery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilmabraham

The battery on my Palio D went dead once. My wife was driving and was trying to manipulate a steep climb from stall. The ac and the music system was on. The engine stopped a few times as she wasnt an expert. This happened for a few times. And then the car wudnt start at all.
The battery had gone dead. I poured in some distilled water in the battery cells, most of them were dry (lack of maintenance). Waited for a few hours and with some help from neighbours got the vehicle jump started. Left the engine on for some time for the battery to charge. There was no problems after that.

Now, I am away from home and the car has been lying almost idle for a month now, only weekly starts by my good neighbour. It seems the battery has died again and the car wont start.

I guess all this happened because of my careless maintenance of the battery. Can anyone give tips on how to properly maintain the battery in a car. Also suggest replacements for the stock palio battery.

Sorry if there has already been a post on this topic.

pramodkumar · 1st May 2006, 12:32

I got a new central locking installed in my car, it came with a ignition cut off if the car is not opened properly then it will not let the car start. My damn mechanic did not know this and kept on trying all different things he knew and killed my stock battery which was 8 year old (i was lucky i guess). i got a new amron maintanance free for 2000 bucks has a 1 year warranty i guess . But now every thing is fine. (atleast at the battery end)

28th April 2006, 08:47	#18 (permalink)
zulfikar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 475 View My Garage	well should have gone for Amaron... i had installed it in my old sierra... didnt give any problems till 3.5 years after which i sold the car so done know if the new owner had any isssues... __________________ I live my life a Quarter Mile at a Time...

28th April 2006, 09:12	#19 (permalink)
basilmabraham BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 210 View My Garage	The battery on my Palio D went dead once. My wife was driving and was trying to manipulate a steep climb from stall. The ac and the music system was on. The engine stopped a few times as she wasnt an expert. This happened for a few times. And then the car wudnt start at all. The battery had gone dead. I poured in some distilled water in the battery cells, most of them were dry (lack of maintenance). Waited for a few hours and with some help from neighbours got the vehicle jump started. Left the engine on for some time for the battery to charge. There was no problems after that. Now, I am away from home and the car has been lying almost idle for a month now, only weekly starts by my good neighbour. It seems the battery has died again and the car wont start. I guess all this happened because of my careless maintenance of the battery. Can anyone give tips on how to properly maintain the battery in a car. Also suggest replacements for the stock palio battery. Sorry if there has already been a post on this topic. __________________ Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, and professionals built the Titanic.

28th April 2006, 11:13	#20 (permalink)
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: TVM Posts: 2,290 View My Garage	New batteries are like maintainance free. So it would be best to get those, and once in a while checkup would be helpful too __________________ Slow and steady wins the race... But there is nothing like a 300kmph dash to the line!!

28th April 2006, 12:07	#23 (permalink)
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 951	Maintaince Free Battery, Does not mean it should be sealed or so..I have seen maintaince free battery with openings on the top for having an ocassionla top up of electrolyte or battery water + No battery can be completely sealed as the battery releases Fumes, for which it needs to have gas vents on the top..! __________________ " When was the last time, You did something for the first time "

28th April 2006, 22:27	#24 (permalink)
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: TVM Posts: 2,290 View My Garage	Yes, even maintaince batteries have openings on top for occasional refills __________________ Slow and steady wins the race... But there is nothing like a 300kmph dash to the line!!

28th April 2006, 11:53	#22 (permalink)
satish_appasani BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 918 View My Garage	My Palio D (August 2004) came with a Exide Freedom battery. The battery once died when the car was still in warranty. Got it freely replaced.

29th April 2006, 09:58	#25 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 11,923	Funny. Sam I am running 2 amps in each of my cars) and have no issues with dimming. maybe my moderate power needs keeps the issue contained. and trust me I am as fussy as Rudra.

29th April 2006, 10:25	#27 (permalink)
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 5,311 View My Garage	Thats what I was thinking too. I have two amps and my setup is fine. There should be some problem with Rudras. (can someone check teh ICE of a stock Optra; by playing it at full volume. ) Navin, dont ask Rudra to redo the whole wiring! __________________ "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

1st May 2006, 01:31	#28 (permalink)
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,816 View My Garage	If one has spent 5k on a battery U must go for optima it is avalable in india through amron itself and it cost nearly 10k.I does not need a refill it is sealed __________________ 156.6 db, naa....time is coming to cross it......

1st May 2006, 12:32	#30 (permalink)
pramodkumar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: delhi ( Now in Bangalore) Posts: 110 View My Garage	I got a new central locking installed in my car, it came with a ignition cut off if the car is not opened properly then it will not let the car start. My damn mechanic did not know this and kept on trying all different things he knew and killed my stock battery which was 8 year old (i was lucky i guess). i got a new amron maintanance free for 2000 bucks has a 1 year warranty i guess . But now every thing is fine. (atleast at the battery end)

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