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Old 8th August 2017, 14:37   #226
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So update, I went to Harvinder & Kumar after checking the directory section. Kumar wasn't available but Harvinder suggested that the steering shake only at 100-110+ suggests a wheel balancing issue and maybe even alignment.

He asked me to visit a petrol pump where Sanjay (his goto person for wheel balancing & alignment issues) would be available and he'll check what the problem is.

Turns out that even after getting all 4 tyres balanced at Galaxy Toyota (Okhla) they needed to be balanced again (this within 2 weeks). Yes, all 4 tyres needed balancing in spite of the fact that they were balanced at Toyota, and front tyres were balanced twice!

However, the state of machine used by this Sanjay wasn't very confidence inspiring. He put a whole lot of weight on the tyres till the machine was satisfied. The weights he used also looked bad, either too shiny or used & dirty so I'm not very convinced with the quality of stuff used, not to mention his machine's calibration.

As per this guy Sanjay, 99% of the times, steering shake at high speeds is an issue due to wheel balancing. If this didn't work he suggested I go visit a mechanic.

BUT, the steering shake has reduced significantly, though there is still a slight shake. I took the car upto 110-120 and the very slight shake remained but it increased a little when I switched lanes. So steering shake is increasing with steering input at high speeds.
Since the Steering shake has reduced with balancing it does mean that it is the wheels / tyres which were the culprit. It would be best if you can replace your front tyres with some other Fortuner's for testing and check.

Harvindar, Kumar are my regular mechanics and I go to Sanjay for Alignment, but not for balancing because of his antique wheel balancing machines. I would suggest you get the rear tyres properly balanced at a good machine and put them in the front and check.

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Since the Steering shake has reduced with balancing it does mean that it is the wheels / tyres which were the culprit. It would be best if you can replace your front tyres with some other Fortuner's for testing and check.

Harvindar, Kumar are my regular mechanics and I go to Sanjay for Alignment, but not for balancing because of his antique wheel balancing machines. I would suggest you get the rear tyres properly balanced at a good machine and put them in the front and check.

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Thanks Styler! Your post was very helpful as I'll be going to Harvinder to get a kill switch for my Fortuner, you know how theft prone it is in NCR. He seemed confident of doing the job and folks like you have rated him an outstanding car electrician.

Since re-balancing reduced the problem I guess better to get them balanced elsewhere before taking the car to Galaxy Toyota. 500 bucks that Sanjay charged pinch a little, especially when it didn't resolve the problem completely. The way my car was put up using jack on axle and then the kind of weights he was using, I'll probably never go to him again.

I came across this (Wheel alignment & balancing in the NCR) post and most likely will be visiting the Balancing guys who have this state of the art equipment. Will keep you all posted.
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Thanks Styler! Your post was very helpful as I'll be going to Harvinder to get a kill switch for my Fortuner, you know how theft prone it is in NCR. He seemed confident of doing the job and folks like you have rated him an outstanding car electrician.

Since re-balancing reduced the problem I guess better to get them balanced elsewhere before taking the car to Galaxy Toyota. 500 bucks that Sanjay charged pinch a little, especially when it didn't resolve the problem completely. The way my car was put up using jack on axle and then the kind of weights he was using, I'll probably never go to him again.

I came across this (Wheel alignment & balancing in the NCR) post and most likely will be visiting the Balancing guys who have this state of the art equipment. Will keep you all posted.
I think you don't really need a kill switch in the modern day cars as they have a chip embedded in the key. The ECU will let the car be operated only with the Key with the chip. So only way to steal these vehicles is with the original key, and no other way.
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I think you don't really need a kill switch in the modern day cars as they have a chip embedded in the key. The ECU will let the car be operated only with the Key with the chip. So only way to steal these vehicles is with the original key, and no other way.
While we're off-topic on this but trust me when I say this, jacking a Fortuner needs 5 min tops.

In fact even a kill switch is not enough so I'll most likely be getting a Concox GT06, gear lock as well as a clutch lock.
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Hi fine69...
Glad to report that the problem has been resolved, that too 100%!

150+ and the car was rock solid, absolutely no steering shake, not even the slightest.

How you ask, three words - Hunter Engineering Company.

Without going into too many details let me just say that before you touch suspension or steering please rule out wheel balancing for steering shake and/or tyre wobbling issues.

Hunter has some state of the art wheel balancing and alignment equipment. Please look for shops where they use Hunter products and you may not go elsewhere for balancing & alignment, ever!

For what its worth and what I'd also been hearing all along, if there is steering shake at "high speeds only", its most likely going to be a balancing issue.

Don't even touch alignment or anything else until balancing is ruled out and rule it out only after you've gotten it done on the likes of Hunter wheel balancers.
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How you ask, three words - Hunter Engineering Company.
One more place in south Delhi that exclusively uses Hunter equipment sourced from Madhus - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/delhi-...gar-delhi.html (Multibrand Tyre Shop - Tyre Emporium (Malviya Nagar, Delhi)).
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Glad to report that the problem has been resolved, that too 100%!

150+ and the car was rock solid, absolutely no steering shake, not even the slightest.

How you ask, three words - Hunter Engineering Company.

Without going into too many details let me just say that before you touch suspension or steering please rule out wheel balancing for steering shake and/or tyre wobbling issues.

Hunter has some state of the art wheel balancing and alignment equipment. Please look for shops where they use Hunter products and you may not go elsewhere for balancing & alignment, ever!

For what its worth and what I'd also been hearing all along, if there is steering shake at "high speeds only", its most likely going to be a balancing issue.

Don't even touch alignment or anything else until balancing is ruled out and rule it out only after you've gotten it done on the likes of Hunter wheel balancers.
So where did you get the balancing finally done ? Try to post a review and contact information here or in the NCR Directory. It will be of use to others.

So Harvinder, although he is an Electrician gave you the right advice that you need to first get wheel balancing done. That is what I like about them, they give sincere advice and will never do anything which is not required.

BTW where could you drive at 150+. I needed to check the top speed of my Scorpio but never found empty roads around Delhi to do it.

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So where did you get the balancing finally done ? Try to post a review and contact information here or in the NCR Directory. It will be of use to others.
I've posted a short review of Pirelli Tyre Point in the NCR directory.

I have Noida as well as Yamuna expressway very near to my workplace so a quick 5-10 second window on these roads helped me test my car.
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