Zen with LPG ? - Team-BHP

prakash2757 · 19th May 2006, 16:27

Hi friends..

I am looking for used ZEN car & Planning to convert to LPG..

What do u all advice ? With skyrocketing price of petrol its too tough to manage..

Does LPG damages Engines in long term ? I am planning to take Lovato Kit..

Please guide me anyone who have got an idea on this..

Zappo · 19th May 2006, 17:58

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Originally Posted by prakash2757

Hi friends..

I am looking for used ZEN car & Planning to convert to LPG..

What do u all advice ? With skyrocketing price of petrol its too tough to manage..

Does LPG damages Engines in long term ? I am planning to take Lovato Kit..

Please guide me anyone who have got an idea on this..

As long as use an approved kit and get it done at an approved center you should be ok. And yes, getting it done on a pre-owned car is the smartest move. Just ensure that the car you pick up does not have much problems.

LPG will cause a minor drop in power (4-5% max). But that won't be so apparent in normal course. However, if you try to scale an incline with 4 or 5 well built people you may just make out that the car is running out of breathe. Otherwise no issues. And no, there is no evidence to suggest that it kills your engine. If anything LPG is far cleaner than the petrol.

By the way, why Zen? It is cramped as it is. After fitting in the LPG tank it will waste up whatever little space you otherwise have in the hatch. IMO, a pre-owned wagon-r makes a far better sense for this conversion... It has sufficient space in the rear hatch and justtttt may leave u with some more space after fitting the kit.

So, how does it cost you to get a Lovato kit fitted?

prakash2757 · 19th May 2006, 18:48

Thanks for reply.. I will be going for small stepney kind tank of 30 litrs, Dont need Jumbo tank of 65 Litrs, Such tank can be fitted easily.. so I can use back space totally. I dont like Tempo look of Wagon R. Somehow I never liked that look. Zen is the best looking small baby

..

For LPG kit, I m bit confused b/w Lovato & Tartarini.. Tartarini is said to be best for MPFI engine. can anyone help me on this ? I m not sure.. nobody helped me on this.. I am very much new to this forum.. but response is amazing..

Thank U admin again for making this place so nice..

P.S.. I am looking for zen too in Bangalore .. Anything above 2000, LXi, Silver Colour only.. Anyone can help me ?

gr8guzzler · 19th May 2006, 20:18

Prakash...I recently got my Ikon retrofitted with a Minda-Impco kit. Lovato too is fine, but go in for a closed loop kit. And yeah, you can go for the kits which fit in ure spare wheel space, so I guess there should be no issue of space with Zen. But just make sure that the zen has no major engine problems and has good suspension to take care of the extra weight. Let me know if you need more info.

Cheers!!!

prakash2757 · 20th May 2006, 21:10

Kishore Thank U for the info. I have asked in Bangalore. Not much dealers for Minda-Impco kit, Well didnt find even 1 dealer. Here Lovato, Star Gas & Tartarini is rocking. but none of my friends using LPG. so i m confused now which one to take..

Lovato is oldest one in India, but still everyone says, Lovato kits dont run good for MPFI engines. its good for carburator onces. FOr MPFI , Tartirini is good. Can anyone help me on this ?

tvsakpal · 22nd May 2006, 14:19

Hi,

I had bought a Zen (98 model) and planning to convert it to LPG. Key reason being the cost as I assume it should reduce my cost upto 60-70%. Can anyone let me know if its ok to convert Zen to LPG. One drawback that i can forsee is that my rear diki space will be consumed by the cylinder, but are there any technical issues relate to LPG? Your commenst and suggestion are highly appreciated.

NOTE FROM MODERATOR: Threads Merged. Please continue your discussion here.

prakash2757 · 23rd May 2006, 07:01

sushrutha, thanks for the info. I am in touch with 3 True value dealers.. Well I need Power Steering & AC. Dont need central lock, fog lamps, etc.. So I am counting on LXi which is just perfect. But then i need Silver colour (Cool Silver Or moon beam Silver ) .. So its taking time.. Let me see if I get something..

Anyone Please reply for my LPG Question ?

wolfinstein · 23rd May 2006, 10:14

there will really be not a great difference in an LXI-VXI Second Hand Version...However Fog Lamps are a neccessity than luxury..as they enhance safety and vision in bad weather.
Central Locking- Bane or Boon....I really don't mind...!
See if you find a colour as per your choice...or better still you can go for a re-paint at a good paint booth...not so very expensive these days...Plus as far as I had heard that Some Insurance companies offer full labour and Paint cost if you get the car repainted at a Dulux Paint Booth..!

Zappo · 23rd May 2006, 12:26

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Originally Posted by wolfinstein

Plus as far as I had heard that Some Insurance companies offer full labour and Paint cost if you get the car repainted at a Dulux Paint Booth..!

Sounds highly unlikely. Insurance is to insure against eventualities. If your car gets crashed, banged and all that. They won't pay for your whimsies. You fancy a different color and want to repaint your car. Fine do that. Why should insurance pay for that?

Wolf buddy I think that idea is a mere hearsay.

prakash2757 · 24th May 2006, 05:51

Wolf, Insurance company will pay only when car is damanged. So I think I have to take a white colour car, bang it & then repaint it

..

VXi has got extra things like fog lamps, back cleaner, central lock which I dont need at all.. me fine with Power St. & Ac.. ooops, topic chnaged.

Anyone advice on LPG pls..

19th May 2006, 16:27	#1 (permalink)
prakash2757 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88	Zen with LPG ? Hi friends.. I am looking for used ZEN car & Planning to convert to LPG.. What do u all advice ? With skyrocketing price of petrol its too tough to manage.. Does LPG damages Engines in long term ? I am planning to take Lovato Kit.. Please guide me anyone who have got an idea on this..

19th May 2006, 20:18	#4 (permalink)
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 467 View My Garage	Prakash...I recently got my Ikon retrofitted with a Minda-Impco kit. Lovato too is fine, but go in for a closed loop kit. And yeah, you can go for the kits which fit in ure spare wheel space, so I guess there should be no issue of space with Zen. But just make sure that the zen has no major engine problems and has good suspension to take care of the extra weight. Let me know if you need more info. Cheers!!! __________________ Kishore

22nd May 2006, 14:19	#6 (permalink)
tvsakpal Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 7	LPG Conversion Hi, I had bought a Zen (98 model) and planning to convert it to LPG. Key reason being the cost as I assume it should reduce my cost upto 60-70%. Can anyone let me know if its ok to convert Zen to LPG. One drawback that i can forsee is that my rear diki space will be consumed by the cylinder, but are there any technical issues relate to LPG? Your commenst and suggestion are highly appreciated. NOTE FROM MODERATOR: Threads Merged. Please continue your discussion here. Last edited by adya33 : 22nd May 2006 at 19:20.

23rd May 2006, 10:14	#8 (permalink)
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 951	there will really be not a great difference in an LXI-VXI Second Hand Version...However Fog Lamps are a neccessity than luxury..as they enhance safety and vision in bad weather. Central Locking- Bane or Boon....I really don't mind...! See if you find a colour as per your choice...or better still you can go for a re-paint at a good paint booth...not so very expensive these days...Plus as far as I had heard that Some Insurance companies offer full labour and Paint cost if you get the car repainted at a Dulux Paint Booth..! __________________ " When was the last time, You did something for the first time "

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19th May 2006, 18:48	#3 (permalink)
prakash2757 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88	Thanks for reply.. I will be going for small stepney kind tank of 30 litrs, Dont need Jumbo tank of 65 Litrs, Such tank can be fitted easily.. so I can use back space totally. I dont like Tempo look of Wagon R. Somehow I never liked that look. Zen is the best looking small baby .. For LPG kit, I m bit confused b/w Lovato & Tartarini.. Tartarini is said to be best for MPFI engine. can anyone help me on this ? I m not sure.. nobody helped me on this.. I am very much new to this forum.. but response is amazing.. Thank U admin again for making this place so nice.. P.S.. I am looking for zen too in Bangalore .. Anything above 2000, LXi, Silver Colour only.. Anyone can help me ?

20th May 2006, 21:10	#5 (permalink)
prakash2757 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88	Kishore Thank U for the info. I have asked in Bangalore. Not much dealers for Minda-Impco kit, Well didnt find even 1 dealer. Here Lovato, Star Gas & Tartarini is rocking. but none of my friends using LPG. so i m confused now which one to take.. Lovato is oldest one in India, but still everyone says, Lovato kits dont run good for MPFI engines. its good for carburator onces. FOr MPFI , Tartirini is good. Can anyone help me on this ?

23rd May 2006, 07:01	#7 (permalink)
prakash2757 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88	sushrutha, thanks for the info. I am in touch with 3 True value dealers.. Well I need Power Steering & AC. Dont need central lock, fog lamps, etc.. So I am counting on LXi which is just perfect. But then i need Silver colour (Cool Silver Or moon beam Silver ) .. So its taking time.. Let me see if I get something.. Anyone Please reply for my LPG Question ?

24th May 2006, 05:51	#10 (permalink)
prakash2757 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88	Wolf, Insurance company will pay only when car is damanged. So I think I have to take a white colour car, bang it & then repaint it .. VXi has got extra things like fog lamps, back cleaner, central lock which I dont need at all.. me fine with Power St. & Ac.. ooops, topic chnaged. Anyone advice on LPG pls..