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Old 15th December 2008, 11:04   #76
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Now, we guys have started to see Automatics positively. Good.
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I am planning to buy an hatchback automatic for my wife, guess the only option is i10 auto.

Did a test drive of i10 kappa sportz last week, I could really feel the jerk between the gear changes, was not really happy with it. I was expecting it to be more smooth.

Owners who already own i10 auto please let me know if you feel the same or is it only with the test car.

Also let me know the FE, I was told by the sales guy that the i10 auto would give ~ 9kmpl

Many thanks

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Please search the forum and you will find information from other owners from i10 automatic.
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Other option are from hyundai only i.e. Santro AT
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Automatics might be the way of the future but give me a Manual Box any day!

The old complaint about automatics being sluggish does not really hold true anymore as often the automatics return better accelaration figures nowadays.

I might, when I am older and my arms do not function too well, buy an automatic. For now I will stick to a Manual Box for the simple reason that the manuals let you use engine deceleration for cornering etc. a feature that makes driving such a pleasure. The automatics, on the other hand, offer nil or negligible engine deceleration. This means that you have to use the brakes to slow the car down, leading to more wear and tear on the brakes, lower fuel efficiency and more wear and tear on the engine.

Most people in the automobile trade will also agree that automatic transmissions reduce engine life by a significant percentage. This is caused by the engine being run at slightly higher speeds at idling and due to wasted power during running and shifts.

Above all it is an emotional thing. The joy of driving would not be the same without the glorious feeling that - a perfectly executed gear change on a twisty road - gives you. Which automatic box can produce the lovely notes from under the bonnet (and exhaust) as the engine worked to slow the car down? And anyways, if I went in for an automatic - What would I do with my left leg (and arm)?
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Did a test drive of i10 kappa sportz last week, I could really feel the jerk between the gear changes, was not really happy with it. I was expecting it to be more smooth.

Also let me know the FE, I was told by the sales guy that the i10 auto would give ~ 9kmpl
Probably an issue with the test car, our 5-month old Magna auto shifts as smooth as any other automatic i've driven abroad.

FE is around 9 in bumper-bumper traffic, haven't checked otherwise.

My wife would happily recommend the i10 auto!
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And anyways, if I went in for an automatic - What would I do with my left leg (and arm)?
Well, I usually keep my left leg folded in a comfortable position on the seat.. and the arm assuming a position on the gear knob .. as if to change the imaginary gear.. although all it's used is to come from D to N when I stop anywhere, but I'm not complaining.
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Hugemongous dead pedal for my left leg and the spacious hand-rest-thingy for the left hand. Of course, when I'm testing the limits of grip, both hands on the steering wheel.
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well, driving an automatic frees your left hand to cuddle your girl friend in the other seat
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I might, when I am older and my arms do not function too well, buy an automatic. For now I will stick to a Manual Box for the simple reason that the manuals let you use engine deceleration for cornering etc. a feature that makes driving such a pleasure. The automatics, on the other hand, offer nil or negligible engine deceleration. This means that you have to use the brakes to slow the car down, leading to more wear and tear on the brakes, lower fuel efficiency and more wear and tear on the engine.

Deceleration not possible in AT? Thanks for providing the hint.

I think. We should first list down differences between AT and MT in a realistic manner.
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Ravv hasn't driven paddle shift equipped cars it appears. With torque converter lockup, you get full engine breaking until the lowest RPMs where it starts to slip. Just downshift like you would in a manual and you'll get full engine breaking.
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well, driving an automatic frees your left hand to cuddle your girl friend in the other seat
Couldn't agree more with you on that point. While driving a manual in city traffic its so difficult to lay your hands on anything.

I have an AT and a MT. However its tough to say which one i prefer over the other. When I drive the MT, I'm like wow... nice shifting... However after a drive on Saturday evening to Yeshwantpur and back lasting a few hours I was like oh man, i should have taken the AT !!
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I agree with Immortalz.
I happened to drive around a friends 328i with paddle shift and I have grown such a liking to the AT. Comfort in complete auto mode and Controlled shift using paddles - way to go.
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I have owned 5 AT cars until now, Santro being the current one. Most people who are cribbing about AT are highlighting problems with weaker AT cars available in India, say below 10L. Once you taste 150+ HP automatic cars, all such feelings vanish.
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i have driven ATs abroad (with and without paddles, with and without cruise control) and have fallen in love with it. I am still waiting for a diesel AT car <10L to be launched here....
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