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It works wonders for my car/bike. I highly recommend it. 15 36.59%
Slight improvement, but I recommend it. 7 17.07%
No difference at all. Don't bother trying this non-sense stuff. 11 26.83%
It screwed my car!!! Stay away from all boron compounds!!! 8 19.51%
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Old 9th January 2008, 17:39   #226 (permalink)
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I mixed the boric acid in the power steering oil.....dude the experience was bad....i am getting strange noises from the steering pump...think i have to replace it asap...getting KKRRRRRRR sound from the pump.....hehe i think i have damaged the pump i guess....Please advice..
. Why in the power steering setup!!!!!
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Old 9th January 2008, 18:56   #227 (permalink)
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I have tried on my bike (splendor) and my bike is giving me a very good FE....So i tried it on My OHC. I mixed the boric acid in the power steering oil.....dude the experience was bad....i am getting strange noises from the steering pump...think i have to replace it asap...getting KKRRRRRRR sound from the pump.....hehe i think i have damaged the pump i guess....Please advice..
Now, here is another innovator. Whoever told you to try it in the PS oil ?
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Old 9th January 2008, 18:58   #228 (permalink)
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dude the experience was bad....i am getting strange noises from the steering pump...think i have to replace it asap...getting KKRRRRRRR sound from the pump.....hehe i think i have damaged the pump i guess....Please advice..
Even i had the same thing in mind but wanted to know the feedback for this. But he already tried. Guess he wanted to make the power steering more smooth just like i thought. Wont replacing the oil and cleaning the pump fix the issue.
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Old 13th February 2008, 21:23   #229 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Recently one of my friend purchased used Accent GLS and after few days he found himself in trouble as engine was making some bearing noise.It was consistant and most of mechanics advised to open engine for repairing.

We tried our treatment adding solution into engine oil....and within 5 minutes noise was gone.He successfully completed 500Km with this.Not only his car is more refined...more smooth...slightly more powerful but 5% more cooler too.He is happy that he saved 30,000...this is such a tremendous benefit...
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Old 14th February 2008, 12:15   #230 (permalink)
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Default engine flush after Boric treatement

hey finetuning i am planning to do an engine flush as i have covered 70,000Kms will there be any adverse reaction since i have done the boric treatement.
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Old 14th February 2008, 21:53   #231 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Recently one of my friend purchased used Accent GLS and after few days he found himself in trouble as engine was making some bearing noise.It was consistant and most of mechanics advised to open engine for repairing.

We tried our treatment adding solution into engine oil....and within 5 minutes noise was gone.He successfully completed 500Km with this.Not only his car is more refined...more smooth...slightly more powerful but 5% more cooler too.He is happy that he saved 30,000...this is such a tremendous benefit...
Finetuning,

Usually a bearing noise is due to something wrong, and it will continue to get worse and worse. It might be better to get it checked out and replaced under warranty rather than using your method to stretch as much life out of it as you can.
Just my 2cents on this issue.

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Old 15th February 2008, 14:23   #232 (permalink)
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Hi Rehaan,

This car is not under warranty and completed 50K km.Since it was brought second hand,owner was not ready to spend money opening engine right now.

Anyway for whatever reason engine noise is gone.Many times due to wear on metal surface we get problems.We know boron sticks to metal.Might be this treatment working that way.
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Old 15th February 2008, 14:55   #233 (permalink)
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Hi Kaizer,

I m uncertain about the benefits of engine flush.In older car this might create some problems.Using right flushing chemical for our car is important.However my personal view is that the boron treatment that you had done also removes carbons & sludges to great extent.I have seen oil filter full of carbon debris after adding this within a week of driving in older car.
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Old 15th February 2008, 15:09   #234 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Recently one of my friend purchased used Accent GLS and after few days he found himself in trouble as engine was making some bearing noise.It was consistant and most of mechanics advised to open engine for repairing.

We tried our treatment adding solution into engine oil....and within 5 minutes noise was gone.He successfully completed 500Km with this.Not only his car is more refined...more smooth...slightly more powerful but 5% more cooler too.He is happy that he saved 30,000...this is such a tremendous benefit...
And I bet the handling and braking have also improved.
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Old 15th February 2008, 16:36   #235 (permalink)
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husbands and wives are not supposed to have advanced degree in gynaecology to become parents - do they?
LOL.
Thats the best part of your post.

what they do is just a normal thing but to do some thing out of the box they require the advice of specialists.

Similarly the normal thing for a car owner to do is drive and maintain the car accordingly and to do some thing out of the box, the specialist's advice is a must.

Nothing wrong on FT's thread, nor its responsibility to answer all the technicalities to prove himself.

The onus lies on the car owners, as there isnt any specifc developments in this field nor scientific data on its application in all cars, think twice before trying it out with any car you wish to. Ok, if you have car and you dont mind experimenting on it you can do on it and dont mind making it a test mule. Oh! later please put down your results here for us so that we continue the argument
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Old 12th June 2008, 13:39   #236 (permalink)
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After reading this thread in its entirety, I decided to do this experiment with my 13 Months / 8750 Km old Avenger. I got 2 litres of engine oil. To about 200 ml of the oil, I added approximately 10 gms of Boric acid and stirred for about 30 mins. Then I drained the existing oil completely and filled 1.2 lts of fresh oil and added the 200 ml oil with BA mix. I immediately started the bike and went for a short spin of about 5 kms. No noticeable difference.

Today morning, I took the bike to work, a distance of 25 kms. Here is what I noticed:

1. Gear shift was very smooth.
2. Low end Torque had improved considerably.
3. Engine was definitely quieter.

I have not voted yet. Want to ride around first for atleast 300 kms and then see if these improvement are due to the addition of BA or due to fresh Engine oil.

@Finetuning: When would you recommend I should change the Engine Oil again?

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Do vote after 1000 kms experience with BA. I'm a long time fan of this treatment, and I changed my Zen's oil 1000 kms after the treatment (mainly bcoz it was due). I don't think changing the oil is necessary, but I think, changing the oil filter would be greatly helpful, since the undissolved stuff will be trapped in the filter and would only be blocking the smooth flow of the oil. And, it only costs 50-odd bucks..
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Old 12th June 2008, 13:41   #237 (permalink)
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Why am I not finding even a single comment by those who voted against this?
Yeah.. me thinks the same. Apparently, a few folks are just plain against anything that FT writes.
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Old 13th June 2008, 16:51   #238 (permalink)
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Guys its not fair if there are 23.08% of people having tried FTs theory and voted against it and none of you have come forward and shared your experiences.
Maybe the method was wrong or like prasannapatil tried the treatment on a part which was never intended for the same.
This is an open forum and if there are people sharing good experinces then i am sure bad experiences will also be appreciated to better know FTs theory and keep in mind things to avoid and not to try so others dont suffer what you have and it would again help people who want to try this to try it in the correct manner.
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abhiK, gd tried boric acid in engine oil method in his scorpio, and during service found "white powder" in oil filter. It appears that boric acid is stopped by the oil filter, and benefits(if any) can't be derived.
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Old 13th June 2008, 17:25   #240 (permalink)
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FT i have sat down and gone through the entire thread post by post and all that i can tell you is it is a very fine gesture that you intend to help others with your theory and those who have tried your theory must be praising you for your efforts and for those who have not benifitted from it, well all i can say is something might have gone wrong somewhere and it would be highly appreciated if you shared your experiences here.
FT carry on the good work and keep us updated of any new additions to your theory and also take all
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