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Old 31st August 2016, 22:17   #181
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1. Would this need wet sanding or would just a compound/polish do the trick?
Sorry for this very quick reply

I usually swear by the method shown in this video:

I have attempted correcting many clearcoat scratches using this method with
good success rate.
But make sure (make absolutely sure) to give attention to the part in the video in which he explains how to find out if the scratch is just a clearcoat scratch or not. Do not attempt wet sanding if you have the smallest doubt if the scratch has reached base coat. Also, I would never attempt wet sanding on painted ORVM because the base+clear coats are way too thin.

You can acquire 1500/2000 grit sand papers from any automotive paint shop. Or autofresh.in stocks some good quality sanding papers/block:
http://www.autofresh.in/home/search?q=sanding+block

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If this can be cleaned up with just compound or polish, can i use a single dual action product? perhaps meguiars scratch x? or would A filler based polish like Autoglym work better?
Filling deep scratches with glaze is not possible. Even if you manage to fill hairline scratches, they just pop up after several washes. I would use something like Meg 105 after wet sanding. I have successfully removed 1500 grit sanding marks with just 2 passes with my DA with M105, but using Scratch-X by hand also should not take too much effort. Post the results after you have tried (or if you tried, considering this is a reply to such an old post).

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My Civic is in need of a professional detailing session however i am not sure if i should wait for the monsoon season to get over as cars are liable to get muddy if driven during rains. So shall i wait it out or the detailing will help protect the car from dust grime etc during the rainy season ?
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My car had rust stains on the roof. The parking area where the car is parked had a rusted metal. During rains, the rusted water from the metal fell on the car and left stains. I tried a polish, but that did not help. I also tried some home remedies like rubbing potato, but no luck. Finally tried Liqui Moly Paint Cleaner. Put some 6-7 drops on a sponge and applied on the affected area. Within 30 seconds on rubbing, the stains just came off. Never really expected this kind of result. Very happy with the product.
As a additional layer of protection, applied some 3M wax on the cleaned surface.

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My Civic is in need of a professional detailing session however i am not sure if i should wait for the monsoon season to get over as cars are liable to get muddy if driven during rains. So shall i wait it out or the detailing will help protect the car from dust grime etc during the rainy season ?
Advisable to wait out the monsoons for a full detail as we are half way into September.
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My Civic is in need of a professional detailing session however i am not sure if i should wait for the monsoon season to get over as cars are liable to get muddy if driven during rains. So shall i wait it out or the detailing will help protect the car from dust grime etc during the rainy season ?
It is difficult to get rid of tar, grime from the paint. Normal washing will hardly get rid of these. We have to rely on clay or other chemicals to clean these which again removes some clear coat. I feel it is best to protect as early as possible.
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It is difficult to get rid of tar
I strongly recommend CarPro Tar-X. According to me, this is the best treatment for tar. Just spray it on tar spots, they just melt away. Then wipe with a MF cloth. Simple.

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We have to rely on clay or other chemicals to clean
I'm not aware of any clay which removes clearcoat. Are you referring to "compound" when you say said 'chemicals'?

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however i am not sure if i should wait for the monsoon season to get over
Coming to detailing before/after monsoon, it is really a matter of personal choice. You'd get better worth for the money you spend on detailing since your car is less subject to getting muddy in summer when compared to monsoon, hence requires less frequent cleaning. However, if you have deep scratches exposing metal, they have to be repainted ASAP to prevent rusting.

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Hi friends,

Need your inputs and suggestions for the following:

1. Car 1: 10 month old XUV500- silver color. No professional detailing done- but gets washed periodically at a washing center. I clean it once in 10- 15 days with Proklear water-less wash (and use Josapu dry duster in between the washing), and gets a coat of turtle wax every 2- 3 months. Have not clayed or polished the car yet. Cannot detect any swirl marks (maybe as I do not employ the daily car cleaning boys) or scratches. Or perhaps they are present, but not visible due to silver color

2. Car 2: 11.5 years old swift- black color. No professional detailing done. Last waxed almost a year back. Car is generally in bad shape- with dents, swirl marks, a few rusting spots all over. This, and the fact that am in the market to replace the car, makes me even more lazy for a DIY or an outsourcing job. Gets cleaned daily by the car cleaning boys.

Both cars are parked in basement (including office etc.). I do not have a machine, so the current cleaning process involves using elbow grease.


I have been thinking of getting more serious about the detailing process (especially for the XUV500, and then the swift's replacement), and was contemplating the following:

1. Adding claying to the process: Thinking of getting the following:

http://www.autofresh.in/paint-care/c...tion-block-256

Reason for opting for this is that I do not think my XUV500 needs aggressive claying for now. Also I need a clay that can be rinsed off and reused, incase I drop it accidentally. Now, the question is, does this clay bar look legit. I cannot find a similar product on nanoskin's website.

Bringbest website has the following listed: http://bringingbest.in/index.php?rou...product_id=156

If the one listed on autofresh site works, would be happy to get that and save some money.


2. Adding polishing to the process: Planning to purchase autoglym and the hitech applicator. Reason for including polishing to the process is to impart a nice gloss, and to also cover any minor scratches that might be present on the XUV500. Given that the car is silver in color, are my expectations misplaced on the gloss front? Is the high-tech applicator good enough, or should I get a pad which has some mild/ medium cutting properties.


3. Sealing with a wax: Planning to purchase and use Collinite 845 for this. Now the dilemma is that I have a decent quantity of Turtle wax and F1 lying around. I could use the F1 for my bike, and also the chrome bits (just to get rid of the product), but am not sure of Turtle wax- I have enough to wax the XUV atleast twice. A part of me says- get the Collinite right away. I am investing a lot of elbow grease, so might as well use a better grade of wax/ sealant. The other part says- lets be rational- you are spending a lot in buying the clay bar, polish etc. so first use the wax that is lying around. What would you suggest?

Given that I am on the wrong side of 40 and not very active, can I split the work into multiple sessions. I plan to get the wash done outside to save some effort. And then do clay- polish- wax in phases. Say a few panels at a time. So for instance, clay-polish-wax the roof, bonnet, front fenders on day 1, and the rest on day 2. My reasoning is that the lubrication and the claying process would get rid of any surface dust that would have accumulated on the washed car. Any pitfalls of following this process.

Also, wondering if I should do this on the swift first- it would still end up looking better than what it looks now, plus will give me some practice and if I do commit any mistake (especially while claying), the damage done to an already scractched and dented car would be less.

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Hi friends,

1. Adding claying to the process: Thinking of getting the following..

Also, wondering if I should do this on the swift first- it would still end up looking better than what it looks now, plus will give me some practice and if I do commit any mistake (especially while claying), the damage done to an already scractched and dented car would be less.

TIA,

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Hi Ajay,

Like you even I am in my early 40s and love to detail my red scorpio regularly. I am not an expert but love to experiment with car detailing. But getting rid of swirls by hand is an unrealistic expectation specially for Swift. For that you'll need a mechanical polisher as well and some good compounds beyond all the things that you are planning to procure.

It is a good idea to use Swift as a learning medium.

1. autofresh is a legit site but it seems they slightly goofed up. The product they have shown is from Carpro and not Nanoskin. But Carpro one should be good as well. I have got the link of Carpro product from their website. https://www.carpro-us.com/paint-deco...on-block-mini/
Though I think grade of clay block should be different for XUV and Swift. XUV should be good with light/medium but Swift will require heavy grade.

2. Autoglym is a nice polish with filler properties. It is going to temporarily hide the swirl marks by filling them. But after some time they'll be back. There is another class of polish that have micro-abrasives in them. I won't suggest them to you if you are planning to do everything with hands.

3. Collinite 845 is a very nice product with good longevity and therefore has good reputation. But if you have some of your older products remaining with you, its not bad to finish them off.

Breaking the detailing job into parts is a nice idea specially in case XUV as it is going to be pretty taxing. Try to finish washing and claying on day 1 and then cover the car. Next weekend use a quick detailer and then you can immediately start with waxing /sealant.

One important product missing from your inventory. You should get one good rinseless wash like ONR/Ultima as well which can be used as clay lubricant and quick detailer.

For XUV your expectations are right in terms of the gloss. A combination of Autoglym+Collinite should really give you great results. Only for applying the polish and wax, you need 1 to 2 decent applicators and few micro-fiber towels for buffing.

And here is a link of my post of detailing my Gabru - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post4039600 (A superb Car cleaning, polishing & detailing guide)

And finally, I do not have any commercial interests in mentioning any product in this post.

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One important product missing from your inventory. You should get one good rinseless wash like ONR/Ultima as well which can be used as clay lubricant and quick detailer.
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Thanks Vikas, so I guess I will go ahead with the carpro clay then. I agree that the swift requires an aggressive approach, just that I am not interested in investing that kind of time and money- so perhaps will use it for "training"purposes, and in anycase, it will end up looking better than it's current state! I do have proklear, and plan to use it for lubrication. A quick question that I forgot to ask earlier- for washing purposes, I mix 3-5ml of proklear in about 1- 1.25 liters of water. Should I maintain the same for claying, or make it more concentrated?
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Thanks Vikas, so I guess I will go ahead with the carpro clay then. I agree that the swift requires an aggressive approach, just that I am not interested in investing that kind of time and money- so perhaps will use it for "training"purposes, and in anycase, it will end up looking better than it's current state! I do have proklear, and plan to use it for lubrication. A quick question that I forgot to ask earlier- for washing purposes, I mix 3-5ml of proklear in about 1- 1.25 liters of water. Should I maintain the same for claying, or make it more concentrated?
I am sorry Ajay as I missed the part where you mentioned you've got Proklear. I read on another forum that 5ml to 500ml of water should be good for as clay lubricant.

Please do let me know from where you have procured Autoglym. I searched for this polish and so far have been unsuccessful.

Do share pics of your results and reviews of the product used.

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Please do let me know from where you have procured Autoglym. I searched for this polish and so far have been unsuccessful.

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I contacted the mobile no listed here: www.autoglym.in/contacts.htm

Spoke to a gentleman called Anthony. He said that he would pass on my contact details to his person in Bangalore and that they would get in touch with me, but that has not happened so far- perhaps as they were closed till 2nd. Will send him a gentle reminder.
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Please do let me know from where you have procured Autoglym. I searched for this polish and so far have been unsuccessful.
They have an outlet in Mumbai and should surely ship to Delhi.

The number to call is 9820006062

On another note based on your suggestion Ive got a friend coming down from the US next week and ive asked him to get the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant... hoping to get results just like you. That deep red on your scorpio is to die for
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They have an outlet in Mumbai and should surely ship to Delhi.

The number to call is 9820006062

On another note based on your suggestion Ive got a friend coming down from the US next week and ive asked him to get the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant... hoping to get results just like you. That deep red on your scorpio is to die for
Thanks a lot Nova9. I'll try to reach the number though my stock of detailing products has reached its limit. Recently got a bottle of Klasse AIO so need to stop myself now

And you will love Wolfgang sealant. It is an amazing product and I've not seen anything even coming close to it.

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So Autofresh.in is out of stock on clay, even though their website mentioned otherwise. They are in the process of refunding my money, and am wondering if this is a worthy alternative, or if I should look for something in the mild category only.

http://bringingbest.in/index.php?rou...product_id=156
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So Autofresh.in is out of stock on clay, even though their website mentioned otherwise. They are in the process of refunding my money, and am wondering if this is a worthy alternative, or if I should look for something in the mild category only.

http://bringingbest.in/index.php?rou...product_id=156
Here are 2 other sites that I have ordered products from in the past and they might be carrying stock of what you are looking for

http://store.ultimatedetailerz.com/

https://www.detailedclean.in

full disclosure: I am not affiliated in any with the above mentioned sites
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