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Old 18th December 2013, 09:16   #16
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Sorry forgot to mentionin original post but I also got the crankcase ventilation checked. Again, no issues there as well.

I have only run 12k's since I bought the car in June this year but I plan to chnage it every 7500 kms.

Is it then worthwhile to get the head opened and check the same?

Again, thanks for the help guys.
The problem is you cannot know whether the leak is from the head or the cylinder walls . So even if you open the head its a hit or miss. Besides the costs associated with it will not be worth it. Since the oil level is dropping to half way mark on the dip stick, its not alarming . Top up the oil. What is the change interval of the oil you follow?

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The problem is you cannot know whether the leak is from the head or the cylinder walls . So even if you open the head its a hit or miss. Besides the costs associated with it will not be worth it. Like Jeroen said , if the oil loss is not significant then you can keep topping up the oil
I am planning to do the same or change the oil change interval to 5k kms but then again it is something which will remain at the back of my mind always.
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I am planning to do the same or change the oil change interval to 5k kms but then again it is something which will remain at the back of my mind always.
What is your current change interval you are following?
It will also be helpful if you can identify how much oil is required to top up from the L point on the dipstick to the F point . This will help you keep a track of oil consumption
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What is your current change interval you are following?
It will also be helpful if you can identify how much oil is required to top up from the L point on the dipstick to the F point . This will help you keep a track of oil consumption
7500-8000 kms for oil change. I also got the pollution check done for the engine and all the values have come out okay. I would have assumed, if the engine was burning oil, it would have been polluting a lot more as well?

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7500-8000 kms for oil change. I also got the pollution check done for the engine and all the values have come out okay. I would have assumed, if the engine was burning oil, it would have been polluting a lot more as well?

You can stick to the oil change interval. Top up when the level is nearing the L mark on the dip stick.

If you were getting the white smoke then your report would have shown higer values since the amount of oil burnt will be on higher side.
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Some amount of oil consumption is expected in four stroke engines, whether car or bike. That is why it is recommended in all owner manuals to do a periodic check and top-up if required. Though normally it will be too small for us to notice, but it will still be there.
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7500-8000 kms for oil change. I also got the pollution check done for the engine and all the values have come out okay. I would have assumed, if the engine was burning oil, it would have been polluting a lot more as well?
For mineral oils it is better to stick to 5K kms interval.

When the oil change is happening how much I'll comes out? Have you checked the quantity? 3L is the new oil quantity that you pour in. Right?!

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For mineral oils it is better to stick to 5K kms interval.

When the oil change is happening how much I'll comes out? Have you checked the quantity? 3L is the new oil quantity that you pour in. Right?!

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Wagon R takes in 3.5 liters. The last time I did the oil change, approximately 2.5 liters came out. There no oil pressure warning light in the console though.
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Wagon R takes in 3.5 liters. The last time I did the oil change, approximately 2.5 liters came out. There no oil pressure warning light in the console though.
1L lost isn't a small quantity.

I had doubts in the piston rings going kaput slowly but add you shay no white smoke and the pollution check is fine it is surprising to see the oil disappear. Bermuda triangle types.


How is the underbody/under the engine look like? It is free from oil stains?

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^^ Add approx 200 ml which would have gone with the old oil filter. And perhaps another 200 ml which simply won't come out during the 10 - 15 minutes which is the maximum time any service centre will wait for the old oil to come out, if we sit on their necks. The car may not be parked exactly level too, during the draining.

I don't think the exact quantity we put in originally will ever come out.

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^^ Add approx 200 ml which would have gone with the old oil filter. and perhaps another 200 ml which simply won't come out during the 10 - 15 minutes which is the maximum time any service centre will wait for the old oil to come out, if we sit on their necks. The car may not be parked exactly level too.

I don't think the exact quantity we put in originally will ever come out.
So you say ~400 ml is not recovered during every oil change?

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In all probability, yes. I have never measured the quantity of drained oil. Have you?

Edit: I usually have to do some top-up in my Splendor between oil changes, though there is no visible smoke and the engine has recently been re-built completely. And that was the case even when the bike was new as well. Though I have never had to add oil in the car. Perhaps because it's running is low - just about 4k KM in a year, when it goes for the next oil change.

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In all probability, yes. I have never measured the quantity of drained oil. Have you?
Karizma - 1L filled (new) and old one is around 850 ml. Since I do it myself I wait, sometimes tilt the bike left & right to get the oil or add much as possible.

Never done for the Ritz, hence clueless. If there was oil consumption I will be alerted by my mechanic instantly. Will try and update.

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Guys, the only sign that engine isnt in prime of its health is the black soot in the exhaust tip. Wondering what will be causing the same?
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^^ How about the quality of your fuel?

There is an easy way to check my theory about some oil remaining in the engine. How much oil is used for the re-fill? If you put in exactly 3.5 litres (or whatever is your supposed sump capacity), does it show an over-fill in the dip stick?

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