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Old 10th October 2016, 20:37   #16
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Default Re: Ssangyong Rexton clutch sinking

One of the master or slave cylinder has leaked all the oil and hence the clutch sinking down because of losing hydraulic pressure. Diagnose it from this angle.
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So can anyone help me to identify the cause?
It seems like a issue of fluid. Should i bleed the brakes and the clutch or replace the master and slave cylinders?

Hi SZ,

There is a similar thread of woes related to Rexton and this has been discussed there, might be of help to you to go through it. Link below will direct you to exact post on clutch issue.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post3833546 (Engine trouble in Mahindra Ssangyong Rexton EDIT: Turbo replaced under warranty)

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Unfortunately, the dealership suceeded in their attemps to loot us.
The car was my dad's , and he finally gave up the fight.
These guys resorted to the cheap " your brakes have failed " trick. Ironically, they had done this during the last service also.
My dad didnt want to risk it and had to cough up a hefty amount.
Anyways, thanks for all your help. I did manage to reduce the bill considerably using your advice, although it was still a lot at the end.
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I am stuck with this weird issue, that on long drives when I am slowing down due to traffic I find that the clutch goes dead (pedal becomes free) and I just can't down shift from fifth. I then have to just brake slowly come to the side and bring the car too a halt, most times after I slow down I manage to go to neutral but cannot engage any other gear. After a full stop of the car though things work fine again. Took it to the Salem workshop on the way from Bangalore to Trichy, they checked for any leaks, clutch cable etc. all looks OK . Test run, no issues at all, car behaves like a gem. They then did a clutch line bleed, on a hunch and let me go. The issue still persists though, twice in another 100kms. Short runs (without a very long stretch on 5th gear) the car behaves normal but, I'm worried as I have to drive back to Bangalore on Sunday and hope I don't get stranded. Any clues on what could be wrong?
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During a drive a month back, the clutch pedal of my 2009 Indica Vista sank to the floor. After I safely brought the car to a halt, I switched off the engine and restarted the car (I'm an IT guy, you see ). The clutch came up again and the problem hasn't recurred since.
Any explanation as to why it lost pressure during that one time? The clutch is still reasonably soft.
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I am stuck with this weird issue, that on long drives when I am slowing down due to traffic I find that the clutch goes dead (pedal becomes free) and I just can't down shift from fifth. I then have to just brake slowly come to the side and bring the car too a halt, most times after I slow down I manage to go to neutral but cannot engage any other gear. After a full stop of the car though things work fine again. Took it to the Salem workshop on the way from Bangalore to Trichy, they checked for any leaks, clutch cable etc. all looks OK . Test run, no issues at all, car behaves like a gem. They then did a clutch line bleed, on a hunch and let me go. The issue still persists though, twice in another 100kms. Short runs (without a very long stretch on 5th gear) the car behaves normal but, I'm worried as I have to drive back to Bangalore on Sunday and hope I don't get stranded. Any clues on what could be wrong?
I drove back to Bangalore and on the way back stuck to speeds below 100 and surprisingly do not see the issue at all. For some reason the problem occurs only if I drive above 100 constantly for a period of 5-10 minutes. Have given it to Bimal Bangalore today for checking the problem, they took some test drives and everything seems normal, so have left the car there with them to troubleshoot further. Hope they are able to root-cause.
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I drove back to Bangalore and on the way back stuck to speeds below 100 and surprisingly do not see the issue at all. For some reason the problem occurs only if I drive above 100 constantly for a period of 5-10 minutes. Have given it to Bimal Bangalore today for checking the problem, they took some test drives and everything seems normal, so have left the car there with them to troubleshoot further. Hope they are able to root-cause.

Weird problem. I would get the hydraulic liquid checked for water content. If it gets hot with too high water content, you get air bubbles and the clutch pedal wont work anymore, until it cools down. A bit like vapour lock on fuel.

Brake/cluthc fluid ought to get changed/flushed every two-three years. It attracts moisture over time. That can cause corrosion and other problems.

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Weird problem. I would get the hydraulic liquid checked for water content. If it gets hot with too high water content, you get air bubbles and the clutch pedal wont work anymore, until it cools down. A bit like vapour lock on fuel.

Brake/cluthc fluid ought to get changed/flushed every two-three years. It attracts moisture over time. That can cause corrosion and other problems.

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Thanks Jeroen. They had already done a clutch line bleed in Salem when I faced the problem, so clutch/brake oil replaced , still the problem persists. The Service guys in Bangalore now told me I need a complete clutch replacement, I am not convinced but since I'm on original factory clutch and @ 114k kms anyway my clutch its near replacement so let them do it. Lets see if that helps , thought a proper root-cause by them would have really helped.
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Thanks Jeroen. They had already done a clutch line bleed in Salem when I faced the problem, so clutch/brake oil replaced , still the problem persists. The Service guys in Bangalore now told me I need a complete clutch replacement, I am not convinced but since I'm on original factory clutch and @ 114k kms anyway my clutch its near replacement so let them do it. Lets see if that helps , thought a proper root-cause by them would have really helped.

Just double check. For me a bleed doesn't mean all fluid is replaced.

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Just double check. For me a bleed doesn't mean all fluid is replaced.

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Thanks Joe Ren they tried that to no avail. Then replaced the clutch assembly, flywheel etc. Car runs smooth now as expected, so no exact root cause on the original issue.
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Then replaced the clutch assembly, flywheel etc
They usually change these two together which is not mandatory. Inspect the clutch once they remove it along with flywheel. But the 114k means the clutch probably didnt have anything to hang on to. The symptoms you indicate is typical clutch plates going basically bald. The only way to survive in highway is to keep pumping the pedal and engaging the clutch and drive at lower gears.

In future if you indeed see the clutch dropping dead after hitting a ceiling of speed, just down shift and ride it in lower gears as well as keep pumping the clutch pedal. Use a 4T oil and just fill up the brake oil reservoir in case there is a leak in the cylinders.

But in general the indicators are shuddering a bit in the first gear, feeling of gear getting stuck, and inability to down shift of change the gear once its engaged. In these situations, coast it, let it cool down, engine off and shift to neutral, pump the pedals and slowly engage to 1. But these clearly indicate clutch plate going kaput.

Freewheel signs are the nasty noise when you try to engage clutch which feels like there are loose bolts inside the clutch casing. But dont worry, it wont cause any damage and flywheel noise is the only issue. I mean just the noise.
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They usually change these two together which is not mandatory. Inspect the clutch once they remove it along with flywheel. But the 114k means the clutch probably didnt have anything to hang on to. The symptoms you indicate is typical clutch plates going basically bald. The only way to survive in highway is to keep pumping the pedal and engaging the clutch and drive at lower gears.

In future if you indeed see the clutch dropping dead after hitting a ceiling of speed, just down shift and ride it in lower gears as well as keep pumping the clutch pedal. Use a 4T oil and just fill up the brake oil reservoir in case there is a leak in the cylinders.

But in general the indicators are shuddering a bit in the first gear, feeling of gear getting stuck, and inability to down shift of change the gear once its engaged. In these situations, coast it, let it cool down, engine off and shift to neutral, pump the pedals and slowly engage to 1. But these clearly indicate clutch plate going kaput.

Freewheel signs are the nasty noise when you try to engage clutch which feels like there are loose bolts inside the clutch casing. But dont worry, it wont cause any damage and flywheel noise is the only issue. I mean just the noise.
Thanks a lot, that sure helps nail down the problem.
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