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Old 25th July 2006, 21:38   #31
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Hi all,

Can anyone guide me to find good vacuum source in my esteem....I wish to try different source for my ozone generating experiment....earlier I tried base of my carburetor...........

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Edit : Sorry I posted in wrong thread...

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The guy I spoke to is suggesting BRC kits for 24 thousand each (2 Optras). He said this is the only kit which is approved for Optra. No cutting of any wires or anything.

We live in Versova and this guy is located next to Balakrishna Tyres opposite ZAF on the Link Road. He was recommended by my neighbour who just installed a kit in his Accent.

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I have BRC kit in my OHC and it does work beautifully. Yes, there are specific approved kits for specific cars, specially high-end- you can refer to the govt approved sheet with the mechanic. 24 thousand is four grand extra, but its a small amount if you are sure about the mechanic.
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Old 26th July 2006, 16:40   #33
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Hey Samrat, it's 24k x 2 = 48k for 2 Optras.

If he's charging 8k more in total then I think I'm getting ripped off. I'm not 100% sure of this guy. My neighbour vouches for him (but he's no great expert either).

Can you suggest someone else in the suburbs (andheri w)
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Could you please recommend the best kits, so I can ask for them specifically and not end up with the aforementioned "chaalu" kits?

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Hey boom shiva, i had an lpg kit called landi renzo on my cielo, it was an mpfi kit with the emulator and all, drove my car for more than 80k kms on gas, never had any problems with the engine, injectors or fuel pump. Even the kit needed servicing only one in 6 months or say about 10k kms, i got the diaphragm inside the kit changed once after the car had done some 60 k kms on lpg. but you never get the pep of petrol, for economy it's the best bet.
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Old 26th July 2006, 18:15   #35
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Thanks Skywalker, good to hear a positive review. You planning on putting one in your Optra anytime?

I don't expect to get the pep of petrol. For that I can always switch to petrol mode - I thought that was the great thing about having a bi-fuel option, you get the best of both worlds.

In any case, for 90% of my driving in bumper to bumper traffic, I don't really need much pep, just perseverance
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[I don't expect to get the pep of petrol. For that I can always switch to petrol mode - I thought that was the great thing about having a bi-fuel option, you get the best of both worlds.

In any case, for 90% of my driving in bumper to bumper traffic, I don't really need much pep, just perseverance [/quote]

Precisely why i went in for lpg on my car, as for optra will have to wait out till warranty lasts or selling off the car which ever happens first
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My experience with carb esteem is good.....only thing is that while tuning the car.....u have to take care to tune it correctly in petrol mode then switch over to lpg then again tune at vapourizer end for gas setting....for more power we can open the gas screw.....this will make the mixture rich......by experience one can learn how much to open gas screw without affecting the mileage......smoothness in lpg is very good....when petrol at the bottom of tank we get dirt & waste getting clogged into jets there by affecting performance....in lpg...its not so....also no chance of adulteration....if setting is done correctly to compensate loss of power in lpg then hardly any difference is felt compared to petol.....
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I found very interesting link explaining why there is power loss in lpg & how to overcome it....

http://www.naftc.wvu.edu/technical/indepth/LPG/LPG.html

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Guys,

Been reading this thread past few days... had given my Getz for a Lovato LPG kit (Lambda + Emulator + all Italian parts etc) install and got it a few hours ago... well... initial review is good... there is little to no difference between LPG and Petrol. Will fill er up on LPG tommorow and give you an in depth review. Dont know if its the higher octane or what, but in a couple of patches during my short drive back home, it felt as if there was more low-end power on LPG.

You guys know how I am, extremely fussy... about anything installed in my car and all. I really left this one up to these guys (as Im really running very busy these days and had no time to supervise)... I have to say at this point though... Autogas India, the official folks for Lovato, did a great install at their dealers.

Will post pics of the install soon... Go Green...
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Hey Samrat, it's 24k x 2 = 48k for 2 Optras.

If he's charging 8k more in total then I think I'm getting ripped off. I'm not 100% sure of this guy. My neighbour vouches for him (but he's no great expert either).

Can you suggest someone else in the suburbs (andheri w)
Boom Shiva,
If you are not sure of the guy dont take your Optra to him. I would not, because there are plenty of mechanics who are riding on the LPG/ CNG conversion wave.
Would advice you to not go for location, but find a capable and reliable guy for the work on your Optra. Talk to a mechanic whos done jobs on Optras, and ask to speak to his Optra customers for a honest feedback.
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Boom Shiva,
If you are not sure of the guy dont take your Optra to him. I would not, because there are plenty of mechanics who are riding on the LPG/ CNG conversion wave.
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I fully agree with Samrat, one quack mechanic almost screwed up my entire car when i first tried converting it, moreover that guy was recommended by a friend, anyway, got it done at a reputed place for free, that's another story altogether.
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Hello M Power,
Can you tell me what exactly is a timing advancer module. IS it something standard the Gas converter fixes during conversion or do I have to fix it extra. Can you tell me any other way to get decent power and to get good mileage in gas

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After reading the whole thread I am still a bit confused ! Does LPG lead to Lower Emission Norms . SO in other words the Wagon R DUO when run on LPG mode should give lower emissions and higher mileage as compared to when the same runs on petrol or am I missing some thing ??? :-)
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There are some things which can actually be benificial if u change to lpg.. if ur car engine has a knock sensor, the engine ecu will keep on advancing the ignition till its just short of knocking.. auto lpg has two gases which octane ratings are 76 and 112 so the engine will produce more torque throughout the rpm pangs hence more bhp.
if ur car engine is made/designed in italy be sure its designed to run on lpg/cng/lng so it wont hurt at alll.
monatery gains are only one part of it ..
we will save a lot of polution by using cleaper leaner and greener fuel.
everyone should look at lpg as least harmful way of driving the car
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if ur car engine has a knock sensor, the engine ecu will keep on advancing the ignition till its just short of knocking..
Could this be the reason that my Alto doesnt jerk while I run on LPG? I suspect this to be the issue.
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