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Old 17th March 2015, 09:31   #46
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The primary pilot jet seems to have some kind of obstruction. As a result, the engine is dying at low rpms.
Are you sure the Anti-dieseling solenoid is powered up with key-ON? No power or a loose connection to this solenoid could also result in the same problem.
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It feels good to see another passionate 118NE owner. Does the pillarlamp in your car work in coordination with the door opening/closing? In our car, after a welding job to address rusting issues near the front fenders, the switch which connects to the pillar lamps stopped working. We never succeeded in getting it to work again.
All the best for your continuing restortion efforts :-)
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It feels good to see another passionate 118NE owner. Does the pillarlamp in your car work in coordination with the door opening/closing? In our car, after a welding job to address rusting issues near the front fenders, the switch which connects to the pillar lamps stopped working. We never succeeded in getting it to work again.
All the best for your continuing restortion efforts :-)
Hi, there could be multiple reasons why the lamp fails to glow.
1. The wire just came off the switch
2. The wire was burnt accidentally during the weld job.
3. The switch doesn't establish a proper connection with body ground due to rusting of switch parts (most probable)
4. Blown out bulb
If the wires are intact, swap out the switch with a switch that comes with 2 terminals. You may connect 1 to the lamp & other to the body ground with an extra bit of wire. Car décor shops have these switches & can display various choices they got. A friendly shop owner would give you 1 even free of cost.
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Are you sure the Anti-dieseling solenoid is powered up with key-ON? No power or a loose connection to this solenoid could also result in the same problem.
Hi ilangop,

Yes, the solenoid does get powered on.
The connectors are fitted quite snugly, hence, the possibility of a loose connection can be ruled out for now.

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It feels good to see another passionate 118NE owner. Does the pillarlamp in your car work in coordination with the door opening/closing? In our car, after a welding job to address rusting issues near the front fenders, the switch which connects to the pillar lamps stopped working. We never succeeded in getting it to work again.
All the best for your continuing restortion efforts :-)
Thanks Nissan1180.

Yes, both lamps work.

As ilangop suggested, try replacing the switch to begin with.

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Fixed the problematic slow jet on Saturday. Extricated and replaced with a pair of tweezers with relative ease.

The lpg plumbing, reducer and the solenoid valves were also serviced.

Had driven down to Lonavala earlier this morning. My intent was to accompany members of FCCCI Pune members for a drive, but that was not meant to be.

Luckily, bumped into an old friend and his bulleteer buddies. The return leg of the journey was not that lonely, thanks to some new friends.

No mishaps whatsoever except for a bullet with a seized engine near Pimpri :(
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Pics after a new upholstery job -
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The differential on my NE was overhauled over the weekend.
Thankfully, no damage was observed.

After a thorough clean-up with kerosene, lash was adjusted.

A faint hum is still audible but the car moves a lot more freely..

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The wiper blades were also replaced to make the car monsoon-worthy.
It's my daily drive now.

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The differential on my NE was overhauled over the weekend.
Thankfully, no damage was observed.

After a thorough clean-up with kerosene, lash was adjusted.

A faint hum is still audible but the car moves a lot more freely..

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The wiper blades were also replaced to make the car monsoon-worthy.
It's my daily drive now.

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Did you have to replace bearings at differential / half-shafts and oil seals?
If you hadn't replaced the caliper rubber kit, replace it with a new one. You can feel the car rolling even smoother.
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Did you have to replace bearings at differential / half-shafts and oil seals?
The bearings seemed to be in reasonably good nick. One oil seal had to be replaced.

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Have fitted nyloc nuts per your suggestion. Here is a photo taken earlier today.
The eight nuts attached to the axle banjo tube are absolutely tight.
Can you please help by circling the changed Nyloc nuts and the eight nuts on the Axle Banjo tube?
I have to check what's the position in my car?
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Can you please help by circling the changed Nyloc nuts and the eight nuts on the Axle Banjo tube?
I have to check what's the position in my car?
The first picture shows the nyloc nuts being referred to above (circled in red).

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The second, refers to the nuts on the axle banjo tube (circled in yellow). Two of the nuts are hidden from view.
Please excuse the quality of the photographs. They were snapped using a cellphone after coating the car's under-body with rubberised paint.

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Pics after a new upholstery job -
The design of your interior is good but the craftsman has used too much foam in the seats probably to give contours that will spoil the original ergonomics. I too had gone for this some years back but then learned the hard way and removed the extra cushioning.

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The first picture shows the nyloc nuts being referred to above (circled in red).
Thanks for circling the exact points of change. Did you apply Loctite on the Nyloc and Axle nuts or it is not recommended/required?
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The design of your interior is good but the craftsman has used too much foam in the seats probably to give contours that will spoil the original ergonomics. I too had gone for this some years back but then learned the hard way and removed the extra cushioning.
Agreed, and this extra padding to the driver's seat was done without my consent. Later, I didn't feel too inclined to invest the time & effort needed in getting it undone. With usage, the contours should flatten out.


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Thanks for circling the exact points of change. Did you apply Loctite on the Nyloc and Axle nuts or it is not recommended/required?
With the kind of usage my car is subjected to, I didn't deem it necessary.

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02-Aug-15 - Updates

Decided to fix the rusty headlamp reflectors. The ones fitted on the car were damaged due to ingress of water and no amount of cleaning worked.

A hunt for Lumax headlamp assemblies meant for the 118 NE started and it soon became apparent that these were in short supply and retailers were fleecing customers, even quoting over and beyond the MRP printed on the cartons.

After discussions with fellow 118 NE owner ilango, a few options were considered. Thanks a bunch ilango

(a) use headlights fitted to the Tata Sumo Deluxe
(b) use the ones fitted to the M&M Bolero pick-up (corresponding to the older models, since newer models come fitted with moulded head lamps)

Option (b) seemed to be the most sensible & cheapest option as Autopal branded ones meant for the Bolero are available in plenty.

There are a few minor differences which needs to be kept in mind.
  • Autopal assemblies come with three focusing screws and which do not line up with the bezel
  • The older bulbs need to be replaced with commonly available H4 halogen
    bulbs

Here are a few pictures taken during the process.
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[u][b]M&M Bolero pick-up headlights seemed to be the most sensible & cheapest option as Autopal branded ones meant for the Bolero are available in plenty. Here are a few pictures taken during the process.
Dear Anirban - I saw this post just now, so replying. You could have easily used Maruti 800 headlights with the mounting bezel (the black ring behind) by drilling a couple of small holes in the body sheet metal. I had done it on one R&D car (MZM7331, the first prototype with the column mounted gearshift), it had fitted perfectly looked very good also, much better than the silly production headlights. Anyways, it's OK now I guess!

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