Esteem rear bearing???

bhogalrajnish · 29th August 2006, 20:27

The rear bearing on my Esteem are ratteling .
The MASS told me that the complete hub is replaced in the esteem and will cost me around 6K for both the bearings.
A local service station gave me a price of 1250 each and another auto part shop in Lajpat Nagar told me that it costs Rs 650 per bearing + around rs500 labour and another Rs400 for wheel balancing and alignement.

Will it be fine to get the bearing replaced from a local dealer. My car is 5 years old and this is the irst time the bearings are being changed.

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condor · 29th August 2006, 20:31

Wheel balancing and alignment for rear wheels too? That's something new.

viper · 29th August 2006, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by condor

Wheel balancing and alignment for rear wheels too? That's something new.

Hey,

There's nothing new about that. Its been around for ages.

Viper

condor · 29th August 2006, 21:57

Viper, thanks for that.
http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm

OT: Do Maruti's need rear wheel alignment ? Which cars in India need this?

rohitbagai · 30th August 2006, 02:40

Why did MASS say that it will need to change the HUB?...is there any problem with the hub? if not then you can get bearing fitted from local mechanic. ...Well ...may be(I am not too sure) you get the alignment checked because changing the bearing can affect the alignment also there are reasons to believe that may be because of misalignment the bearing worn out. But wow...no need for wheel balancing for sure.

pramodkumar · 30th August 2006, 03:12

Hey guys i lost 2 new rear tyres to wheel alignment

. Its a must, the alignment guys will not do it untill you tell them. there is a guy at chanakya petrol pump who does it without a computer all by his hands and this guy is quite famous for his work try going to him

Pramod

esteem_lover · 30th August 2006, 13:01

MASS charges 3k a piece for this part. it is a SGP, meaning a jap import. the same bearings are available in the grey, as in all imported stuff, for a mere 1200 rs. i do not know about the 650 stuff. maybe fake, made in delhi. beware. i think if you can find a trusted mechanic, get the grey stuff & have it replaced. i did this for my 1000, 5 years back.

Raccoon · 30th November 2009, 11:08

My Esteem started making a fairly loud "hum" after a certain speed. My MASS is telling me both the rear bearings need to be replaced. They are quoting about 5,500 a piece, plus labor.

It seem strange to me that both rear bearings need replacement together?

The recent rains here saw to it that I had to drive thru water that was approx. upto the center of the wheels, for about a minute, on a particular stretch of road. Could this have lead to bearing failure?

I have been told that I can get SKF or FAG bearings for much cheaper. Can anybody in Pune tell me where I can get genuine ones at a good price? Any idea about current prices? Do I have any other options?

One spares dealer told me he has bearings that are packed in white boxes. No company name. They are priced at approx Rs. 700 each. Any ideas if these are any good?

Lastly, are fakes in bearings common?

esteem_lover · 30th November 2009, 13:34

Fakes in bearings are very very common. The Esteem bearings are now available from skf. Source it from a reliable dealer, should not cost over 1250 each.

Raccoon · 30th November 2009, 14:10

Thanks dude! Problem is I dunno any reliable dealer. Trying to find out thru the net... but the FAG website at least is no use - no dealers/distributors mentioned at all! SKF not too much help either. Any leads on how I can avoid fakes?

siddartha · 30th November 2009, 14:54

The issue here is that the wheel bearing and the hub comes as one piece, so when the wheel bearings gets wornout/damaged the entire assembly needs to be changed. I was quoted rs 4k here in blr for the same.

@esteemlover:
can you give the details of the bearing i.e bearing number/part number.
so if we are able to source the bearing then no need to buy the sgp/mgp part along with the hub.

esteem_lover · 30th November 2009, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

The Esteem bearings are now available from skf. Source it from a reliable dealer, should not cost over 1250 each.

Quote:

Originally Posted by siddartha

@esteemlover:
can you give the details of the bearing i.e bearing number/part number.
so if we are able to source the bearing then no need to buy the sgp/mgp part along with the hub.

I am sorry I jumped the gun a little bit. I did not replace with skf, but my mech got me the Imported part in the grey market NTN which costed around 2.8k for a pair. This is on par or even better than the MGP which retails at 4.8k for one.

Raccoon · 30th November 2009, 15:23

SKF distributor just told me I can get it for Rs. 550 each. Question is how do I know its genuine? But since he is a distributor, I'd expect it to be genuine.

Another bearing dealer is quoting 1,600 each for "Nachi" made in Japan stuff. He says 80% SKF stuff in the market are fakes... and even they cannot make it out. Of course, he may be saying that to push the above brand.

Esteem Lover, my MASS is quoting about Rs. 5,500 each. No way I'm ready to shell out nearly 12,000 right now for bearings, when I need the cash for other stuff...

What do you guys think I should do?

siddartha · 30th November 2009, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

I am sorry I jumped the gun a little bit. I did not replace with skf, but my mech got me the Imported part in the grey market NTN which costed around 2.8k for a pair. This is on par or even better than the MGP which retails at 4.8k for one.

so this NTN is hub+ bearing or only bearing?

Raccoon · 30th November 2009, 15:33

As mentioned above, and also as told to my by MASS, you can't separate it. It comes as one piece.

29th August 2006, 20:27	#1
bhogalrajnish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 190 Thanked: 3 Times	Esteem rear bearing??? The rear bearing on my Esteem are ratteling . The MASS told me that the complete hub is replaced in the esteem and will cost me around 6K for both the bearings. A local service station gave me a price of 1250 each and another auto part shop in Lajpat Nagar told me that it costs Rs 650 per bearing + around rs500 labour and another Rs400 for wheel balancing and alignement. Will it be fine to get the bearing replaced from a local dealer. My car is 5 years old and this is the irst time the bearings are being changed. Note from mod : Thread moved Last edited by tsk1979 : 30th August 2006 at 12:20.
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29th August 2006, 20:31	#2
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 7,137 Thanked: 885 Times View My Garage	Wheel balancing and alignment for rear wheels too? That's something new.
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29th August 2006, 21:57	#4
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 7,137 Thanked: 885 Times View My Garage	Viper, thanks for that. http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm OT: Do Maruti's need rear wheel alignment ? Which cars in India need this? Last edited by condor : 29th August 2006 at 21:59.
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30th August 2006, 02:40	#5
rohitbagai BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 392 Thanked: 201 Times	Why did MASS say that it will need to change the HUB?...is there any problem with the hub? if not then you can get bearing fitted from local mechanic. ...Well ...may be(I am not too sure) you get the alignment checked because changing the bearing can affect the alignment also there are reasons to believe that may be because of misalignment the bearing worn out. But wow...no need for wheel balancing for sure. Last edited by rohitbagai : 30th August 2006 at 02:45.
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30th August 2006, 03:12	#6
pramodkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gods own country Posts: 1,411 Thanked: 67 Times View My Garage	Hey guys i lost 2 new rear tyres to wheel alignment . Its a must, the alignment guys will not do it untill you tell them. there is a guy at chanakya petrol pump who does it without a computer all by his hands and this guy is quite famous for his work try going to him Pramod
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30th August 2006, 13:01	#7
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,533 Thanked: 386 Times View My Garage	MASS charges 3k a piece for this part. it is a SGP, meaning a jap import. the same bearings are available in the grey, as in all imported stuff, for a mere 1200 rs. i do not know about the 650 stuff. maybe fake, made in delhi. beware. i think if you can find a trusted mechanic, get the grey stuff & have it replaced. i did this for my 1000, 5 years back. Last edited by esteem_lover : 30th August 2006 at 13:04.
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30th November 2009, 11:08	#8
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,785 Thanked: 83 Times	My Esteem started making a fairly loud "hum" after a certain speed. My MASS is telling me both the rear bearings need to be replaced. They are quoting about 5,500 a piece, plus labor. It seem strange to me that both rear bearings need replacement together? The recent rains here saw to it that I had to drive thru water that was approx. upto the center of the wheels, for about a minute, on a particular stretch of road. Could this have lead to bearing failure? I have been told that I can get SKF or FAG bearings for much cheaper. Can anybody in Pune tell me where I can get genuine ones at a good price? Any idea about current prices? Do I have any other options? One spares dealer told me he has bearings that are packed in white boxes. No company name. They are priced at approx Rs. 700 each. Any ideas if these are any good? Lastly, are fakes in bearings common?
	() Thanks

30th November 2009, 13:34	#9
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,533 Thanked: 386 Times View My Garage	Fakes in bearings are very very common. The Esteem bearings are now available from skf. Source it from a reliable dealer, should not cost over 1250 each.
	() Thanks

30th November 2009, 14:10	#10
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,785 Thanked: 83 Times	Thanks dude! Problem is I dunno any reliable dealer. Trying to find out thru the net... but the FAG website at least is no use - no dealers/distributors mentioned at all! SKF not too much help either. Any leads on how I can avoid fakes?
	() Thanks

30th November 2009, 14:54	#11
siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 17 Times	The issue here is that the wheel bearing and the hub comes as one piece, so when the wheel bearings gets wornout/damaged the entire assembly needs to be changed. I was quoted rs 4k here in blr for the same. @esteemlover: can you give the details of the bearing i.e bearing number/part number. so if we are able to source the bearing then no need to buy the sgp/mgp part along with the hub. Last edited by siddartha : 30th November 2009 at 14:56.
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30th November 2009, 15:23	#13
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,785 Thanked: 83 Times	SKF distributor just told me I can get it for Rs. 550 each. Question is how do I know its genuine? But since he is a distributor, I'd expect it to be genuine. Another bearing dealer is quoting 1,600 each for "Nachi" made in Japan stuff. He says 80% SKF stuff in the market are fakes... and even they cannot make it out. Of course, he may be saying that to push the above brand. Esteem Lover, my MASS is quoting about Rs. 5,500 each. No way I'm ready to shell out nearly 12,000 right now for bearings, when I need the cash for other stuff... What do you guys think I should do? Last edited by Raccoon : 30th November 2009 at 15:24.
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30th November 2009, 15:33	#15
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,785 Thanked: 83 Times	As mentioned above, and also as told to my by MASS, you can't separate it. It comes as one piece.
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