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Old 11th December 2009, 09:04   #661
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I have couple of questions - where can I find one in East Bangalore (Marthahalli, Whitefiled, etc.) and has anyone tried this in their cycles?
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Its nothing but stupidity and wastage of money to top your tyres with nitrogen normal air consists of 75% nitrogen as it is. And on one fill of nitrogen tyre will only fill with max of 70% nitrogen since previous air will still be left. It'll take many complete drain out and topup to completely remove air particles from tyres. But still Max nitrogen fill can never go beyong 90% so you are spending so much for just 6 7% of nitrogen extra.
Its best to get tyre topped up with Dry air will give same advantage as nitrgen but free of cost cheers
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Its nothing but stupidity and wastage of money to top your tyres with nitrogen normal air consists of 75% nitrogen as it is. And on one fill of nitrogen tyre will only fill with max of 70% nitrogen since previous air will still be left. It'll take many complete drain out and topup to completely remove air particles from tyres. But still Max nitrogen fill can never go beyong 90% so you are spending so much for just 6 7% of nitrogen extra.
Its best to get tyre topped up with Dry air will give same advantage as nitrgen but free of cost cheers

I second physicpsyche views

Normal air contains around 80% nitrogen so why bother about filling nitrogen in tyres. It apparently doesn't have any harm apart from the price you pay for it. If it's being offered for free at some filling-station, go ahead and fill it but if it's being sold for even 10 rupees/tyre, I would say, it's not worth it!

I know that in some particular applications/ circumstances, pure Nitrogen is used as the inflation medium especially in heavy earthmover, racing cars, and aviation tyres to where they are required to perform under extra ordinary conditions of high stress and in critical environments, generating higher than usual temperatures. Examples are:

* Where exceptionally high loads are carried by the vehicle,
* High-speed travel.
* Where high pressure must be maintained.

All our normal road cars and bikes never experience such extreme conditions, nether they are designed & build for such tough scenarios.

Filling Nitrogen in tyres has NO apparent advantage over normal compressed air! It's a marketing gimmick, please ignore it and save your wallet
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Its best to get tyre topped up with Dry air will give same advantage as nitrgen but free of cost cheers
Agree with everything that you say.

But how does one ensure that the air from the local pump is 100% dry? It is the water vapour that causes pressure loss and the street level air is never really dry , is it?
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I have inflated my swift tires (Michelin energy + 185 upsize) with nitrogen. But after the nitrogen inflation, I felt the steering to be little stiff and side wall s of the tires seems to stretched out a bit. The guy who inflated the tires said
36 PSI is normal for nitrogen, Is 36 PSI ok ?. Please guide me. Is this a problem with nitrogen or with my tyres. Will Michelin have problem with nitogen ? Is nitrogen not recommended in them ? Please suggest me.

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Whether you fill your tyres with normal air or nitrogen, why should there be a difference in PSI ? Is there a reason behind this ?
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Whether it's a marketing gimmick or not, one thing is for sure that I don't need to check air presseure for over two months after filling Nitrogen against 2 weeks with normal air! Still after that my tyre pressure hasn't come down.
And you will benefit more when you are on a long trip and don't need to bother about tyre pressure all along the way!
And Rs.10/- topup after two months isn't a big deal I suppose!
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And Rs.10/- topup after two months isn't a big deal I suppose!
It is a big deal considering air is free at Petrol Pumps. It is Rs 10/- per tyre, so that's Rs 50/- (assuming you top-up all five) for two months. You and I may be willing to spend that money, many wouldn't. Each to his own.
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Hello Friends,

I have inflated my swift tires (Michelin energy + 185 upsize) with nitrogen. But after the nitrogen inflation, I felt the steering to be little stiff and side wall s of the tires seems to stretched out a bit. The guy who inflated the tires said
36 PSI is normal for nitrogen, Is 36 PSI ok ?. Please guide me. Is this a problem with nitrogen or with my tyres. Will Michelin have problem with nitogen ? Is nitrogen not recommended in them ? Please suggest me.

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Experts, your suggestions please. Should I remove the nitrogen and go for normal air.?
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It is a big deal considering air is free at Petrol Pumps. It is Rs 10/- per tyre, so that's Rs 50/- (assuming you top-up all five) for two months. You and I may be willing to spend that money, many wouldn't. Each to his own.
BTW it's Rs.10 for all 5 tyres topup. And if you goto MASS, they do it for free!

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Experts, your suggestions please. Should I remove the nitrogen and go for normal air.?
I'm using Nitrogen in same car and same tyres (Swift with XM1+ 185/70) with no issues! Reduce the tyre pressure to 32/33 PSI and all will be fine.

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I see only one benefit from nitrogen which is that the tire doesn't get heated as it does when filled with normal air. Any other benefits that owners of nitrogen filled tires have experienced?
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I see only one benefit from nitrogen which is that the tire doesn't get heated as it does when filled with normal air. Any other benefits that owners of nitrogen filled tires have experienced?
Longer tyre refill interval, almost 4-5 times when compared to using normal air!
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Hello Friends,

I have inflated my swift tires (Michelin energy + 185 upsize) with nitrogen. But after the nitrogen inflation, I felt the steering to be little stiff and side wall s of the tires seems to stretched out a bit. The guy who inflated the tires said
36 PSI is normal for nitrogen, Is 36 PSI ok ?. Please guide me. Is this a problem with nitrogen or with my tyres. Will Michelin have problem with nitogen ? Is nitrogen not recommended in them ? Please suggest me.

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For Swift - 185, the psi is 30. Stick to that.
For 165, its 33 psi.
Filling 36 psi seems to be way above the limit. Dont believe "inflator". Believe in your owner's manual.
I guess 32 (at the max) should be fine for you.
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For Swift - 185, the psi is 30. Stick to that.
For 165, its 33 psi.
Filling 36 psi seems to be way above the limit. Dont believe "inflator". Believe in your owner's manual.
I guess 32 (at the max) should be fine for you.
The inflator said its a -6 and the PSI will be 30 eventhough it shows 36, I don't understand this.
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Longer tyre refill interval, almost 4-5 times when compared to using normal air!
Why is that so? But nitrogen is less dense/lighter than air. So it should be needing more frequent refills. I feel when you put the air nozzle cap for normal air then also the refills are less.
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