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Old 29th April 2017, 10:37   #31
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The manufacturer should take moral responsibility and fix it for you free here. If it needs RTO inspection or anything, the manufacturer should bear the process and costs.
Why so? How did you arrive at this solution without knowing the root cause?

- Is that a material defect? If so, corrosion should have happened at other area as well
- Is that a design failure? If so, every other car on road should have this issue reported

Do you have any such data on hand?
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Why so? How did you arrive at this solution without knowing the root cause?

- Is that a material defect? If so, corrosion should have happened at other area as well
- Is that a design failure? If so, every other car on road should have this issue reported

Do you have any such data on hand?
Are you saying its quite common to see such amounts of rust on cars generally in just 10yrs? That too in Bangalore?

Recall happens if its a batch of cars with same issue.

In this case, its one off and manufacturer could still take responsibility for poor product given.

I happen to own a Ambassador of exact same age. It was in Pondy and now with me. You should probably see it to understand how little rust it has compared to the more modern dzire in this case.

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Are you saying its quite common to see such amounts of rust on cars generally in just 10yrs?
I mean to say any car in B'lore or or Washington gets rusted not ONLY because of manufacturing defect and the manufacturer alone don't hold the responsibility.

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In this case, its one off and manufacturer could still take responsibility for poor product given.
Can you prove this is a poor product? Do you have the data?

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I happen to own a Ambassador of exact same age. It was in Pondy and now with me. You should probably see it to understand how little rust it has compared to the more modern dzire in this case.
You should visit me in person, I can give you a handful of customers who hide anything and everything and blame the manufacturer to get their mistakes corrected at someone's cost.

I don't mean the OP is hiding something and blaming the manufacturer, my question is quite simple how did you conclude it's a manufacturing defect or a poor product? If you could prove, I stand with you to get it corrected by M.A.S.S

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Mr Boss, I think there is no need to dig into so deeply. We need to take things at face value. Unless OP states certain poor maintenance caused it, we should take it as it naturally rusted.

What data you need for this? Whatever OP has received 10 year ago, the quality is not good. OP posting this thread itself is data. I also have already stated this as one off and I am not blaming the product in its entirety. On other hand, I have noticed more Tata/Mahindra cars rusted than Maruti or Hyundai cars. I visit the scrap yard also frequently for classic car spares. I have hardly or say cant even remember seeing MAruti cars that came in which were due to rust. Most arrive as their bodies are battered/accidents and so on.

1000's of Tbhp threads, do each one of us analyze beyond what can be derived at face value? If you are doing such, I salute you!

Lets move on.

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What data you need for this? Whatever OP has received 10 year ago, the quality is not good. OP posting this thread itself is data.
Couldn't agree.

OP data alone can't be taken as a granted to say the product is faulty.

Have a look at below thread
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...r-chassis.html (Crack in WagonR chassis)
As per post #1 it looks like a faulty product or the failure happened all of a sudden. Post #9 clarifies the actual issue.

If you could verify the subject car's past 10 year maintenance and then ask the manufacturer to take the blame, I agree. Else I couldn't. What we have here is a half cooked data. We can discuss about the probabilities and root cause with that data, concluding that it's manufacturer responsibility at this stage is not acceptable at least to me.
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