Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Technical Stuff


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 27th January 2012, 10:55   #436
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 3,649
Thanked: 242 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by IndigoXLGrandDi View Post
Same was told to me by the Works Manager at Sterling Motors, Solapur that the fuel Additive should not be used in Tata Indigo XL since it will Clog the Injectors.
But I have used the System D many times but did not face the Clogging Issue yet. Touch wood.

Check in the Owner's Manual if the System D is recommended. If it is, then you can safely use it in your Safari.
The diesel filter used for CRDI engines filters to less than 2 microns which is safe for any injector to process. Diesel mixed with System D also passes through it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by condor View Post
@Sagar, easy there. There is conflicting information on this. Tata says dont use in Dicor engines, but Ford says fine. Ford even sells this at their A.S.S. I have used it in both - my IDI Turbo engine Sumo & the TDCi Ikon. I have not seen any problems.

The ratio is so small - 1ml per liter - .1%. So I dont really expect problems in using it.
Agree with Condor here, its use has seen no negative impact over many years now.
dadu is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 27th January 2012, 11:16   #437
Senior - BHPian
 
sagarpadaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 2,527
Thanked: 1,135 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by condor View Post
@Sagar, easy there. There is conflicting information on this. Tata says dont use in Dicor engines, but Ford says fine. Ford even sells this at their A.S.S. I have used it in both - my IDI Turbo engine Sumo & the TDCi Ikon. I have not seen any problems.

The ratio is so small - 1ml per liter - .1%. So I dont really expect problems in using it.

Thanks condor. I intend to use one bottle every 3K kms so as to clean the injectors(Thats what the bottle says). Anyway i would be running without additive for 3000 kms.So its a cycle of 3K with additive,3K without additive.That should not do any harm i believe!

But i seiously like to have this in my diesel . The difference is very noticable
sagarpadaki is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4th February 2012, 22:41   #438
BHPian
 
IndigoXLGrandDi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solapur (MH-13)
Posts: 867
Thanked: 130 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by condor
Tata says dont use in Dicor engines
Infact Tata Motors Ltd recommends to use System D in both Owner's Manuals (Indigo LS IDI and Indigo XL Dicor). But the Works Manager at Sterling Motors Solapur advised me not to use it since it clogs the Injectors. He did not say anything about Diesel Filter clogging though.

Off-Topic..
I want to know is it safe to use 2T or 4T Engine Oil at the identical ratio (1ml/liter) instead of System D since the latter is Very Expensive (@4times the cost of 2T or 4T Engine Oil).

I will check the Thread of "Mixing 2T Oil in Fuel" too.
IndigoXLGrandDi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th March 2012, 20:07   #439
Senior - BHPian
 
straight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,288
Thanked: 89 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.
straight6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th March 2012, 20:29   #440
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 3,649
Thanked: 242 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by straight6 View Post
Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.
Their registered office is in Mumbai, call them, 022-29208128 .

Or their dealers :

Ravi Motors : 23876891
SAI OM Enterprises : 25333674

PS: If you call their registered office, can you ask them to update their website too thx.
dadu is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 24th March 2012, 21:17   #441
Distinguished - BHPian
 
condor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Speed-brkr City
Posts: 9,827
Thanked: 2,939 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by straight6 View Post
Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.
Try in Ford A.S.S. I pick up my stock from the local Ford A.S.S
condor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th March 2012, 21:48   #442
Senior - BHPian
 
straight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,288
Thanked: 89 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by dadu View Post
Their registered office is in Mumbai, call them, 022-29208128 .

Or their dealers :

Ravi Motors : 23876891
SAI OM Enterprises : 25333674

PS: If you call their registered office, can you ask them to update their website too thx.
Thanks! I'll call them on Monday and ask them to update the website too .

Quote:
Originally Posted by condor View Post
Try in Ford A.S.S. I pick up my stock from the local Ford A.S.S
I'll have to check where the closest one is. Thanks.

Right now I have injector cleaner liquid from ABRO which manson gave me. Its worked in my carbs too. Has anyone else tried it? I was also considering the carb and injector treatment from STP.
straight6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2012, 08:41   #443
Senior - BHPian
 
greenhorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: TN-14
Posts: 6,544
Thanked: 780 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

do those of you who use system D get their fuel filters clogged faster ? I've had my filters clogged a LOT despite filling up from good pumps. Beginning to wonder if it works by coagulating the impurities and trapping them at the filter before they clog up the injectors
greenhorn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2012, 10:27   #444
Distinguished - BHPian
 
condor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Speed-brkr City
Posts: 9,827
Thanked: 2,939 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

No Greenhorn, No such issues. Have you tried without Sys-D for a sufficiently long period, on new fuel filters ? What brand of filters are you using ?
condor is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2012, 23:51   #445
BHPian
 
GSMINC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 335
Thanked: 51 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

After going thorugh this thread, I do agree that System D is not easily available everywhere, but you do get it if you really search hard for it, guess it's like lost love.
I found it last week, picked up the whole carton of 12 bottles from a Tata dealer here in Bangalore, cost me Rs.250/- for a 250ml plastic can.
If anyone is desperate for System D, I can spare a can or two, Do PM me if you need it, BTW I live in Bangalore.
GSMINC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th April 2012, 00:12   #446
Senior - BHPian
 
greenhorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: TN-14
Posts: 6,544
Thanked: 780 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by condor View Post
No Greenhorn, No such issues. Have you tried without Sys-D for a sufficiently long period, on new fuel filters ? What brand of filters are you using ?
I think the longest I've gone is two tankfuls, after which the engine becomes too harsh for my taste. Not sure about the filters. I use whatever the TASC/workshop uses. will check next time
greenhorn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16th April 2012, 07:37   #447
Senior - BHPian
 
ghodlur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Thane
Posts: 4,808
Thanked: 1,806 Times
Smile re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by straight6 View Post
Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.
You can get a can of System G at the BPCL bunk at Majiwada in Thane. It costs 300/- for the can, I recently got one and have been regularly using it. Lasts for 6 tank fulls i.e 3 months.
ghodlur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th April 2012, 07:44   #448
Distinguished - BHPian
 
condor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Speed-brkr City
Posts: 9,827
Thanked: 2,939 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenhorn View Post
I think the longest I've gone is two tankfuls, after which the engine becomes too harsh for my taste.
Surprised. Not sure why, because I also get my fuel filter changes at A.S.S (Tata & Ford), with the normal fuel filters that they use. Yet neither of my vehicles gives me this problem.
condor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th April 2012, 06:42   #449
Senior - BHPian
 
straight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,288
Thanked: 89 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghodlur View Post
You can get a can of System G at the BPCL bunk at Majiwada in Thane. It costs 300/- for the can, I recently got one and have been regularly using it. Lasts for 6 tank fulls i.e 3 months.
Thanks. We meet there before Sunday rides so I'll check next time. I have bought one bottle from the Lotus pump at Andheri. My friend also picked one up from a pump near Radio Club in SoBo.
straight6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th April 2012, 07:32   #450
mgh
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 395
Thanked: 33 Times
Default re: The fuel additives thread

I have seen system D at BP outlets, also at Tata workshops. I don't see filters getting choked quickly. Engine sounds much smoother with it than without it. I can't comment on FE, as the car's routine is highly variable.
Best was close to 14 km/ltr when it was being used on a particular route regularly, otherwise it varies between 11.5 to 12.5 depending on the traffic. This was all in city driving. My car is a Indica DLX V2 Turbo.
mgh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A Comparison of (Fuel/Oil/Engine) Additives ibm_jennifer Technical Stuff 152 20th October 2016 18:03
STANADYNE Diesel Fuel Additives dadu Technical Stuff 61 15th April 2016 15:21
Fuel additives and octane boosters....do they really work? Shan2nu Technical Stuff 25 5th September 2015 08:09
Fuel with additives ? Are they good for NEW cars ?? Venkatr Shifting gears 6 23rd February 2009 14:30
Fuel Additives nosfreak Motorbikes 1 14th November 2007 07:22


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 06:33.

Copyright 2000 - 2016, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks