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I got the update & it was good / neutral 17 13.71%
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Old 27th July 2017, 16:54   #76
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Got fed up with the performance of my Rapid post the Skoda remap and had a Petes' remap done. Have my smile back. Now the D mode is more or less back to original like performance but the tiptronic and the sports mode change the smile to a grin.

The noise levels are still the same though.
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Old 27th July 2017, 23:05   #77
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How is the performance of the 1.5 TDI in the new cars??

Since most owners find the engine map with the diesel-gate fix to be neutered, I am wondering whether its the same with brand new cars as well.

Or are there any changes to the hardware to make the engine more potent while being cleaner?

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Old 2nd August 2017, 19:29   #78
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I got the update done on my Laura today and i am facing an issue. Car idle increases to 1000 RPM when the a/c is switched ON and stays there even if the a/c is switched off. No major change in performance except for slight linear acceleration. Skoda guys are little clueless, but they are checking other cars which were updated.

Has any one faced this issue?
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Got my Vento 1.6 TDi updated.

Observations:
  • Clatter has increased.
  • The Clatter at a particular load/rpm is really loud. Like when taking off.
  • The worst change - There is a very discomforting "missing" "jerk" when the engine is cold, and in low rpm/load.
  • Can say, there is a slight change in power and torque delivery. May be the placebo effect, not sure. Have to dyno it.
  • I never look at the gearshift indicator, but, since remap I look into it, and have found it to be very subtle in all 4 gears except 5th.
  • Fuel Efficiency has not changed, if not, increased. Got a staggering 26kmpl from Karwar to Kannur.

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I got the update done on my Laura today and i am facing an issue. Car idle increases to 1000 RPM when the a/c is switched ON and stays there even if the a/c is switched off. No major change in performance except for slight linear acceleration. Skoda guys are little clueless, but they are checking other cars which were updated.

Has any one faced this issue?
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Read the thread. Me & another member have faced this issue, and it is a common issue for the updated 2.0TDi engines.
Did a remap post this update and the issue still persists.

Driving the car with the increased NVH is quite a pain! I'm hoping there will not be any long term implications of the same, such as reduced life of the DPF Filter.
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Make: Vento Highline 2015
Engine:1.5 liter TDI (DSG)
Vote: I got the update done and it was good/neutral

Experience: Post the fix of the flow transformer and the software update, the acceleration has become more linear/predictable and the fuel efficiency has improved marginally by about 5-8%.
Engine noise/clatter not changed much.The idling speed with and without the A.C is unchanged at 800-900 rpm.

Am I happy about the fix? Well both yes and partially no.

Yes, because now I feel compliant with emission controls. Yes, also because the FE has improved - this may not benefit my wallet instantly but if I drive this for 4-5 years, then the fuel savings will add up to a lot.

And partially no, because the acceleration surge in the 1500-2500 rpm range has smoothed a bit. This can be experienced or felt more in the "S" mode than in the "D" mode.

My detailed post on this topic - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post4253415 (My Night Blue VW Vento TDI DSG - Ownership experience over 35,000 km)
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Old 20th August 2017, 08:34   #82
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Just a quick Question - Has anyone compared these observations like jerk/sound/lack of acceleration after a remap with a brand new Car? Like what VW/Skoda are selling now, I believe they must be selling new cars with updated tune only. If both new and old have some differences than is there a possibility that there is more to it or is VW still selling new cars with the old tune and will make new buyers change it after a while?

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Got fed up with the performance of my Rapid post the Skoda remap and had a Petes' remap done. Have my smile back. Now the D mode is more or less back to original like performance but the tiptronic and the sports mode change the smile to a grin.

The noise levels are still the same though.
Could you please share more details ? What were the changes made by Pete's in the engine map and how much did they charge you for the remap ?
Did you also remove the flow transformer to increase the air flow to the MAF sensor and to the engine ?
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On the 2.0TDi Laura:

Been googling a little bit to figure out an answer to why my idle RPM was jumping up with the AC on - a recurring issue post this update.

Some interesting posts:

1) https://www.hypermiler.co.uk/dieselg...udi-skoda-seat


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Owners over in the US have nothing to worry about. VW are not only offering up to 11 year warranty on EGR and DPF systems of their fixed vehicles. They are replacing them free of charge in the second phase of their “recall”.

2) https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...e-software-fix

In the UK - cars with less than 160Kkm/miles on the odo may be eligible for free fixing of issues that could be caused by this update.
Again, this isn't going to happen in India.

My questions:

Does the Indian version come with DPF?
I remember reading that 2012 vehicles had a DPF on them, is this accurate?

If there is no DPF - then why is the idle rpm increasing to 950? Is this update causing an issue for cars without the DPF?

Interestingly - there is also a Phase 2 of the fix which will see some hardware upgrades as well including a DPF. Don't think we will see that coming to India.

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This guy here has a similar issue to mine on his 1.6TDi Golf:
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It used to go into ‘regeneration mode’ [whereby soot collected in a filter is burnt off at high temperature to leave only a tiny ash residue] a few times a year, but now does it on almost every journey. This is my wife’s car and is used to transport our two children. As far as I can see they have ruined a perfectly working car.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...ar-undriveable

As much as I like the car, this update has annoyed me a lot.
I've picked on Skoda dealers a fair bit for their inability to fix small niggles effectively / quickly - but as I've learnt from other brands, this is normal. In fact, I was surprised to see how quickly Skoda got in touch with me about a small issue of overcharging/adding bundles to their service packages - and was planning to commend them on the same.
But I think I will reserve my comments for when they fix this. Because nothing is more annoying than waiting at a signal in a car with significantly increased NVH.

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Volkswagen submits roadmap on recall of 3.23 lakh cars before green tribunal.

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The roadmap was submitted by it in pursuance to the NGT’s direction passed on Wednesday. The automobile giant is in the process of recalling several million cars across the globe.
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Old 23rd September 2017, 13:30   #86
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This week I gave our 'Rapid' for it's 3rd year service. While giving the car for Service, I totally forgot about this software upgrade and said nothing regarding this to the Service Advisor. Around noon, suddenly I remembered this and called him up to enquire whether they will be updating the software as he did not get any kind of authorization from me regarding this. He said they have stopped getting permission / authorization from Customers regarding this update and they are doing this upgrade to all the cars that comes to the Service centre that require this update!

After the update, although I did not observe any big difference during my city rides, I felt the Engine clatter has become lot more louder than what it used to be.
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BHPian psuraj had a bad experience with the dieselgate fix - link to post (2013 Flash Red VW Polo 1.6 GT TDI Ownership Report).
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