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Old 2nd December 2006, 15:10   #1
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Am a new member here and am happy to find this sort of a forum where we can all air our views (and hopefully avoid getting a raw deal at the hands of dealerships). I need help with the following situation:

I own a Fiat Uno which I had purchased in November 1997. It has been sparingly used and has done 26,000 Kms only. Regularly serviced by the fiat authorised dealers. Had not given me significant trouble till last year, when the car started stalling at idle, especially at traffic signals and slow traffic. Thought it was a tune-up issue and gave it to a Tata-Fiat dealership at Powai. They tuned the car and replaced the spark plugs. However, the fiat tie-up had just taken place and I was unsure about their expertise with the Uno. The stalling problem still existed and I then spoke to Anuroop Auto, the authorised fiat dealer. Took the car to them, they said the repairs would cost me 6 grand. I was slightly unhappy about the inconsiderate attitude of the sales people there. To be sure if anuroop is the right guy to give my car to, I sent a mail to Fiat India and spoke to their service rep. a guy called Mangesh. He said anuroop was the best available and since it was the Uno, I should give it to them. I spoke to their service manager and gave the car to them. That's when all my troubles began. They changed the carburettor Kit, tuned the engine and replaced some plate in the distributor as well as the ignition module that rests on the distributor. The car seemed fine until next day, it just would'nt start at a long signal after I had switched it off. It would keep cranking but not start!! Took the car back to them, they said they would check it, kept that car for 3 days, claimed to have taken the trials and said it was fine. But they replaced the spark plugs again (dunno why when the tata guys had done it just a month back and I had told Anuroop so) anyway, I paid them for the plugs and took the car back. The same problem has resurfaced and now the car just doesn't start. I spoke to the person at Fiat India and at Anurrop and they said it could be a bad carburetor. My point is:

1. If this is so, why did anuroop not detect it / tell me when they did the whole tune up
2. Now, what is the guarantee that they will do a decent job, looks to me like they don't understand the car
3. Who should pay the 700 buck towing charge that I now have to incur to take the car to them??

I have lost my faith in the anuroop guys. I have a couple of questions

1. Should I take the car to some local mechanic?
2. If it is indeed the carb. (only after 26,000 kms?), will the Tata Fiat dealership be competent to help me
3. What should I do to get my car on it's feet (and do you guys think I should now sell this as soon as possible?)

Look forward to your suggestions!!
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Old 2nd December 2006, 17:28   #2
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Hey Shekhar,
We own a Palio 1.6 and i would advise you to take it to a reputed local garage instead. That's what we have done with our Palio.
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Best thing to do, as Lambo said, is to take it to a good garage. I dont know where in Bombay you are based but I would highly recommend Sunil Shanbag : 411.4447 / 414.9910. Hes one of the best tech guys I know in the automotive field.
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My father has three cars including a 2006 Toyota Corolla.recently, he dinged the 'Rolla a bit.Took it to the dealer to get it fixed(Lanson Toyota in Chennai).Nice guys( i was there when he bought the car), but they gave him the usual rigmarole about leaving the car for two days etc.My dad says he just took the car to his trusted old mechanic who services his Esteem and Santro.The 'Rolla was back in the garage the same evening and i saw pics of before and after the ding.I couldn't tell the difference.Moral:Always build up a good relationship with a mechanic you can trust.Give a little once in a while to keep him happy and you'll have trouble free cars to enjoy and drive!!.I do the same in the US.I avoid dealers unless the car is being fixed under warranty!.
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A typical Fiat owners' sorrow! Shall we say?

And now we all know why their cars flop and becomes dead stock after sometime from the launch.

My NANA is a diehard fan of fiat. He owned almost every fiat launched here. After some problems he had with UNO which wasn't sorted out after many different treatments, he sold it. Bought a PETRA which again is following it's predecessor.
Sad! Truly.
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It's just that you need a guy who knows teh ina and out of this engi8ne, which are very few.

As this is the 1 litre carb engine, try googling might get some answers if it's a known issue.

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Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies. Showed it to 2 different mechanics locally, verdict is the same. It's a problem with the float needle and probably the float, which is why the carb. is getting flooded. They say it's a minor thing to repair, but we need the float and needle. Anyone knows where in Mumbai I could get Uno spares (except for the dealer, of course) and if this issue is indeed minor?
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Hey Shekhar,
We own a Palio 1.6 and i would advise you to take it to a reputed local garage instead. That's what we have done with our Palio.
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Best thing to do, as Lambo said, is to take it to a good garage. I dont know where in Bombay you are based but I would highly recommend Sunil Shanbag : 411.4447 / 414.9910. Hes one of the best tech guys I know in the automotive field.
guys, i think he has already done that. they are the ones who are taking him for a ride

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Tata-Fiat dealership at Powai
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Anuroop Auto, the authorised fiat dealer. Took the car to them
try speaking to sunil as suggested by gto
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A typical Fiat owners' sorrow! Shall we say?

And now we all know why their cars flop and becomes dead stock after sometime from the launch.

My NANA is a diehard fan of fiat. He owned almost every fiat launched here. After some problems he had with UNO which wasn't sorted out after many different treatments, he sold it. Bought a PETRA which again is following it's predecessor.
Sad! Truly.
Please don't jump to a conclusion so fast!
As far as I remember this is the 1st thread on a issue with Uno, so there are majority out there who are enjoying this great Car.
There is nothing like a Perfect Car in this world! When a Merc or BMW too can fail sometimes, why to pick up a particular Car maker and defame him only?
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my FIAT UNO is not in a running condition
Just out of curiosity, what happened to your Fiat Uno? We can probably get some TeamBHP folk who are in Hyderabad to get out their tools and turn your car into a project for the weekend. If anyone wants to give it a try, I can volunteer by holding a flash light while the work is being performed

BTW, why doesn't MASS permit customers to look at the work on their own vehicles? It's not like somebody is going to accidentally open the engine oil or coolant reservoirs and have hot liquid spurting all over the place.
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Just out of curiosity, what happened to your Fiat Uno? We can probably get some TeamBHP folk who are in Hyderabad to get out their tools and turn your car into a project for the weekend. If anyone wants to give it a try, I can volunteer by holding a flash light while the work is being performed

BTW, why doesn't MASS permit customers to look at the work on their own vehicles? It's not like somebody is going to accidentally open the engine oil or coolant reservoirs and have hot liquid spurting all over the place.
Thank you for asking k_nitin_r.

Coolant spills out from the coolant tank whenever the radiator fan switches on. Have taken it to three different mechanics including 'Digamani Motors' at Tarnaka who claim to be FIAT specialists. The problem used to start after one or two days once the car is back from the workshop and i didn't want to drive it all the way to the service centers again as I would end up roasting the engine. None of the local mechanics are willing to repair it. Another problem is the car stalls all of sudden and sometimes starts in the first crank or can take up to 10 to 15 minutes. I can smell petrol while cranking. Since then I have stopped using it and planning to sell in 'as is' condition as I do not want to spend any money which I feel hasn't been worthy so far . It has 4 new tyres, new battery and brand new brake booster fitted recently. Other than the above mentioned problems it runs very smoothly. Wanted to slightly modify (inspiration : hillram sir's uno) and keep with me till its end of life but I think selling it off would get me peace of mind.

Any advice from our bhpians is welcome.
Sorry for diverting the topic as this should be in the 'Under the hood' section.
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Coolant spills out from the coolant tank whenever the radiator fan switches on. Another problem is the car stalls all of sudden and sometimes starts in the first crank or can take up to 10 to 15 minutes. I can smell petrol while cranking.
The TASS should be able to deal with both problems for you, assuming they are able to source the parts within a reasonable period of time (sometimes they can tell you it would take up to a month to get the parts).

If you want to fix the car, you first have to locate the coolant leak. I don't have a Fiat Uno so can't give you directions. There's a radiator fan switch located close to the radiator, which gets the fan blowing air. It would be located somewhere close to the radiator. A second guess can be that the coolant gets too hot and begins to boil, causing spillage - make sure you have the right 50/50 mix of the coolant and your radiator isn't filled with only water.

The stalling can be anything from a faulty electrical system to a clogged air filter or faulty fuel pump. That's again something the TASS can diagnose and fix.
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The TASS should be able to deal with both problems for you, assuming they are able to source the parts within a reasonable period of time (sometimes they can tell you it would take up to a month to get the parts).

If you want to fix the car, you first have to locate the coolant leak. I don't have a Fiat Uno so can't give you directions. There's a radiator fan switch located close to the radiator, which gets the fan blowing air. It would be located somewhere close to the radiator. A second guess can be that the coolant gets too hot and begins to boil, causing spillage - make sure you have the right 50/50 mix of the coolant and your radiator isn't filled with only water.

The stalling can be anything from a faulty electrical system to a clogged air filter or faulty fuel pump. That's again something the TASS can diagnose and fix.
I know one guy in TASS who is very good at his job and is also very helpful guy, He is with Malik motors. If you need help then let me know.
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Coolant spills out from the coolant tank whenever the radiator fan switches on. Have taken it to three different mechanics including 'Digamani Motors' at Tarnaka who claim to be FIAT specialists. The problem used to start after one or two days once the car is back from the workshop and i didn't want to drive it all the way to the service centers again as I would end up roasting the engine. None of the local mechanics are willing to repair it. Another problem is the car stalls all of sudden and sometimes starts in the first crank or can take up to 10 to 15 minutes. I can smell petrol while cranking. Since then I have stopped using it and planning to sell in 'as is' condition as I do not want to spend any money which I feel hasn't been
Having had a FIAT Uno 1.2ELX for 10+ years, I think I can call myself knowing a thing or two about Uno. Why don't you tell me in detail about what's wrong with the car and what model it is.

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Thank you for asking k_nitin_r.

Coolant spills out from the coolant tank whenever the radiator fan switches on. Have taken it to three different mechanics including 'Digamani Motors' at Tarnaka who claim to be FIAT specialists. The problem used to start after one or two days once the car is back from the workshop and i didn't want to drive it all the way to the service centers again as I would end up roasting the engine. None of the local mechanics are willing to repair it. Another problem is the car stalls all of sudden and sometimes starts in the first crank or can take up to 10 to 15 minutes. I can smell petrol while cranking. Since then I have stopped using it and planning to sell in 'as is' condition as I do not want to spend any money which I feel hasn't been worthy so far . It has 4 new tyres, new battery and brand new brake booster fitted recently. Other than the above mentioned problems it runs very smoothly. Wanted to slightly modify (inspiration : hillram sir's uno) and keep with me till its end of life but I think selling it off would get me peace of mind.

Any advice from our bhpians is welcome.
Sorry for diverting the topic as this should be in the 'Under the hood' section.

When fan starts that about when the thermostat should be fully open. I have a feeling that your thermostat is going south. Remove it , it will not affect this engine much.
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