Grooved Maruti 1000 - Team-BHP

finetuning · 7th January 2007, 13:43

Dear all,

I m extremely happy to share another grooved project on 92 Maruti 1000........car was recently brought by a friend of my friend and he was eager to do mods done by me after he drove my car........of course he doesnt have K & N & free flow & plugs........

So he decided to implements few things to improve performance as well as FE without hurting his pocket.....we carried our series of mods in his car one by one & finally grooved his engine head yesterday......

1)Initially we made ozone treatment mod by sucking ozone from distributor cap & making T joint at manifold vacuum....we felt increase in power....he checked FE figures by his own with 1 ltr plastic bottle & found FE of 15 with 2 person in car......

2)Few days later started using Acetone+Xylene +2T in the raio of 2.5ml:2.5ml:2ml.......car felt more responsive & also smoothness of engie increased......a tiny addition in right proportion makes so much difference....

3)Yesterday we caried out much awaited groove work in his car with my local mechanic.....we started at 10 in the morning & completed work by 9....removed 0.8 mm frm head surface then made grooves with small triaguler file......grooves were pointed towards spark plug...

I m really happy to see such an old car getting transformed into a very pleasurable one not only from the driving poit of view but also from FE and not to forget emission.....

This time I managed to get some good photos to share ith you all......grooves can be seen clearly.....

4)We added boric acid powder in gear oil in the ratio of 5% by weight of oil....so added 100 gms powder in 2 liter engine oil..........it will take time to show effect.....

5)Also greased all 4 wheel bearings & axel bearings with boric acid treated normal SKF grease.....we added 10% powder in grease.....again this will take time as with more use boric acid powder will tranform into boric oxide & will stick to metalik surface of bearings......

I skipped adding oil into engine as I m expecting car to cover at least 1000 km with all this work without any trouble.....

Here are photos...

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02375.jpg
This shows head being surfaced with grinding machine

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02382.jpg
This shows marking boundary with head gasket just before grooving

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC02383-1.jpg
This showing Grooved head

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02385.jpg
This iamge shows entire head with groove

Enjoy....

finetuning · 7th January 2007, 14:06

Dear all,

Here is grooved images as its not big enough in earlier post

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC02383-2.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02375.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02382.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02385.jpg

Enjoy...

elf · 7th January 2007, 16:52

HI finetuning,

Congratulations on the successful completion of another job.

I had asked this question earlier as well (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post346538 (My Grooved Esteem FE is 14.5 Kmpl)) but didn't receive your answer.

I understand that there has been a tremendous increase in the bottom end of the power / torque band. I'd like to know the difference to the top end of the engine after grooving.
1. Does the RPM it rise faster / the same / slower than before?
2. Has the max RPM possble increased / decreased?

Mpower · 7th January 2007, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by finetuning

we started at 10 in the morning & completed work by 9....removed 0.8 mm frm head surface
....

How much do you reckon the compression went up by.

finetuning · 7th January 2007, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by elf

HI finetuning,

Congratulations on the successful completion of another job.

I had asked this question earlier as well (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post346538 (My Grooved Esteem FE is 14.5 Kmpl)) but didn't receive your answer.

I understand that there has been a tremendous increase in the bottom end of the power / torque band. I'd like to know the difference to the top end of the engine after grooving.
1. Does the RPM it rise faster / the same / slower than before?
2. Has the max RPM possble increased / decreased?

Hi elf,

Thanks....

Its evident that we feel good amount of increase at low end.....but as far as my experience goes riding grooved cars I can say that there is increase in top end too....

RPM rise is faster then before......we feel quick acceleration.....

About max poosible RPM I cant comment as not checked........but there is feeling that it increased.....

I understand that we expect similer rise at top end too but with my stock tyre & suspension I m hesitant to test it.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

How much do you reckon the compression went up by.

Hi Mpower,

I expect at least 10% increase in compression ratio....stock compression ratio not known.....if stock is 9:1 then with 0.8 mm removal its nearly 10:1......but I couldnt found stock data........

Enjoy....

flipsyde · 7th January 2007, 23:56

here boys..... i got the spec sheet for the maruti 1000....but doesnt say anything about the compression ratio
[COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR]NameSpecificationsDimensionsOverall length4075 mmOverall width1575 mmOverall height1395 mmWheelbase2365 mmMinimum turning radius4800 mmGround clearance180 mmWeight:Kerb weight825 kgGross vehicle weight850 kgEngine performance:Number of cylinders4Number of valves8Piston displacement970 cm3Maximum output at 5500 rpm46 [COLOR=#0000ff]bhp[/COLOR] (34 [COLOR=#0000ff]kW[/COLOR])Maximum torque at 3500 rpm7.2 [COLOR=#0000ff]kgf[/COLOR]·m (71 [COLOR=#0000ff]N·m[/COLOR])MPFINoTransmissionAll-synchromesh5 Forward, 1 ReverseChassis:SteeringRack & pinionBrakesDisc & drumFront suspensionIndependent McPherson strut with coil springRear SuspensionIndependent McPherson strut with coil springTyresRadialCapacitySeating5Fuel tank40 litres

Stage3Monster · 8th January 2007, 09:06

Dudes, All jap-indian cars are around 9.0-9.5 cr. The Peugeot is 8.0 though!

finetuning · 9th January 2007, 13:39

Before grooving Maruti 1000 I tried to find out stock compression figure but couldnt......even couldnt found old manuals........so I assumed it must be in the range of 8.75 to 9.25 as stage3moster said.........

Its neccessary to find compression figure as based on this we are going to remove metal from the head......

Enjoy....

gonecase_01 · 9th January 2007, 13:54

hey what is ozone treatment and how much did it cost
also can u tell me the break up cost and timewise.

finetuning · 9th January 2007, 14:16

Hi gonecase_01,

Shall we discuss Ozone Treatment in ozone thread?......its almost free & is 15 minute job....

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...butor-cap.html (Using Free ozone From Distributor cap)

finetuning · 2nd February 2007, 20:57

Maruti 1000 is returning 17 kmpl after grooving........also its a sheer pleasure to drive car.....infact its almost impossible to find whether its 1000 or esteem by running.....pick up has been improved a lot.......looking at such great torque this friend has decided to go for installing lpg......

Sutra · 19th March 2007, 12:45

Thought, I will keep this here for future reference

Maruti Suzuki 1000 Specifications

Tyre size – F/R | 155/80R13
Tyre pressures - F/R | 1.8 kg/cm2
----------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------
BRAKE SYSTEM
Type |4 – wheel hydraulic
Wheel Brake: Front |Disc brake (floating caliper type)
Rear |Drum brake (leading & trailing)
Hand Brake |Mechanical actuated on Rear wheel
----------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------
Suspension type
Front |Macpherson strut and coil spring
Rear |Torsion beam and coil spring
----------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------
CAPACITIES
Coolant |4.0 L
Fuel tank |40 L
Engine oil |3.5 L (Replacement with Oil Filter)
Transmission oil |2.4 L
----------------------------------------------------

Pars · 6th April 2007, 23:06

hey..FT...can u pls give me the contact number of Mr.Somendar Singh of Mysore.who has got a patent in the grooving technology...I guess that u had made grooves on ur car with his help.

Kaizer Sozay · 7th April 2007, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pars

hey..FT...can u pls give me the contact number of Mr.Somendar Singh of Mysore.who has got a patent in the grooving technology...I guess that u had made grooves on ur car with his help.

phone: 91-821-2449018.
631/A, Hyder Ali Road, Nazarbad, Mysore - 570010, Karnataka, India
SOMENDER-SINGH.com - Home

7th January 2007, 13:43	#1 (permalink)
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 389	Grooved Maruti 1000 Dear all, I m extremely happy to share another grooved project on 92 Maruti 1000........car was recently brought by a friend of my friend and he was eager to do mods done by me after he drove my car........of course he doesnt have K & N & free flow & plugs........ So he decided to implements few things to improve performance as well as FE without hurting his pocket.....we carried our series of mods in his car one by one & finally grooved his engine head yesterday...... 1)Initially we made ozone treatment mod by sucking ozone from distributor cap & making T joint at manifold vacuum....we felt increase in power....he checked FE figures by his own with 1 ltr plastic bottle & found FE of 15 with 2 person in car...... 2)Few days later started using Acetone+Xylene +2T in the raio of 2.5ml:2.5ml:2ml.......car felt more responsive & also smoothness of engie increased......a tiny addition in right proportion makes so much difference.... 3)Yesterday we caried out much awaited groove work in his car with my local mechanic.....we started at 10 in the morning & completed work by 9....removed 0.8 mm frm head surface then made grooves with small triaguler file......grooves were pointed towards spark plug... I m really happy to see such an old car getting transformed into a very pleasurable one not only from the driving poit of view but also from FE and not to forget emission..... This time I managed to get some good photos to share ith you all......grooves can be seen clearly..... 4)We added boric acid powder in gear oil in the ratio of 5% by weight of oil....so added 100 gms powder in 2 liter engine oil..........it will take time to show effect..... 5)Also greased all 4 wheel bearings & axel bearings with boric acid treated normal SKF grease.....we added 10% powder in grease.....again this will take time as with more use boric acid powder will tranform into boric oxide & will stick to metalik surface of bearings...... I skipped adding oil into engine as I m expecting car to cover at least 1000 km with all this work without any trouble..... Here are photos... http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02375.jpg This shows head being surfaced with grinding machine http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02382.jpg This shows marking boundary with head gasket just before grooving http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC02383-1.jpg This showing Grooved head http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02385.jpg This iamge shows entire head with groove Enjoy.... Last edited by finetuning : 7th January 2007 at 13:46.

7th January 2007, 14:06	#2 (permalink)
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 389	Dear all, Here is grooved images as its not big enough in earlier post http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC02383-2.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02375.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02382.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/DSC02385.jpg Enjoy... Last edited by finetuning : 7th January 2007 at 14:11.

7th January 2007, 23:56	#6 (permalink)
flipsyde BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 493	here boys..... i got the spec sheet for the maruti 1000....but doesnt say anything about the compression ratio [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR]NameSpecificationsDimensionsOverall length4075 mmOverall width1575 mmOverall height1395 mmWheelbase2365 mmMinimum turning radius4800 mmGround clearance180 mmWeight:Kerb weight825 kgGross vehicle weight850 kgEngine performance:Number of cylinders4Number of valves8Piston displacement970 cm3Maximum output at 5500 rpm46 [COLOR=#0000ff]bhp[/COLOR] (34 [COLOR=#0000ff]kW[/COLOR])Maximum torque at 3500 rpm7.2 [COLOR=#0000ff]kgf[/COLOR]·m (71 [COLOR=#0000ff]N·m[/COLOR])MPFINoTransmissionAll-synchromesh5 Forward, 1 ReverseChassis:SteeringRack & pinionBrakesDisc & drumFront suspensionIndependent McPherson strut with coil springRear SuspensionIndependent McPherson strut with coil springTyresRadialCapacitySeating5Fuel tank40 litres __________________ An architect's most useful tools are an eraser at the drafting board, and a wrecking bar at the site - Frank Lloyd Wright

8th January 2007, 09:06	#7 (permalink)
Stage3Monster BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: coimbatore Posts: 36	Dudes, All jap-indian cars are around 9.0-9.5 cr. The Peugeot is 8.0 though! __________________ Suzuki RD and Twin Weber Power!!!! ---------------- ---------------------The G13B Monster unleashed!!!! --------

9th January 2007, 13:54	#9 (permalink)
gonecase_01 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 162	hey what is ozone treatment and how much did it cost also can u tell me the break up cost and timewise. __________________ Don't walk as if u RULE THE WORLD, walk as if u don't care who rules the world. Thats called ATTITUDE !!!!

7th January 2007, 16:52	#3 (permalink)
elf BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 892 View My Garage	HI finetuning, Congratulations on the successful completion of another job. I had asked this question earlier as well (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post346538 (My Grooved Esteem FE is 14.5 Kmpl)) but didn't receive your answer. I understand that there has been a tremendous increase in the bottom end of the power / torque band. I'd like to know the difference to the top end of the engine after grooving. 1. Does the RPM it rise faster / the same / slower than before? 2. Has the max RPM possble increased / decreased?

9th January 2007, 13:39	#8 (permalink)
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 389	Before grooving Maruti 1000 I tried to find out stock compression figure but couldnt......even couldnt found old manuals........so I assumed it must be in the range of 8.75 to 9.25 as stage3moster said......... Its neccessary to find compression figure as based on this we are going to remove metal from the head...... Enjoy....

9th January 2007, 14:16	#10 (permalink)
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 389	Hi gonecase_01, Shall we discuss Ozone Treatment in ozone thread?......its almost free & is 15 minute job.... http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...butor-cap.html (Using Free ozone From Distributor cap)

2nd February 2007, 20:57	#11 (permalink)
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 389	FE Update Maruti 1000 is returning 17 kmpl after grooving........also its a sheer pleasure to drive car.....infact its almost impossible to find whether its 1000 or esteem by running.....pick up has been improved a lot.......looking at such great torque this friend has decided to go for installing lpg......

19th March 2007, 12:45	#12 (permalink)
Sutra Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 18	Maruti Suzuki 1000 Specifications Thought, I will keep this here for future reference Maruti Suzuki 1000 Specifications Specifications ---------------------------------------------------- DIMENSIONS \| Overall length \| 4075 mm Overall width \| 1575 mm Overall height \| 1395 mm Wheelbase \| 2365 mm Tread: front \| 1365 mm rear \| 1340 mm Ground clearance \| 180 mm ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- MASS (WEIGHT) Kerb mass (weight) \| 790 Kg Gross axle weight rating: front \| 555 Kg rear \| 685 Kg Gross vehicle mass rating \| 1240 Kg Seating Capacity \| 5 persons ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- ENGINE \| Type \|F – Four-stroke cycle, water cooled SOHC Number of cylinders \| 4 Lubrication System \|Forced lubrication with oil sump Bore \| 65.5 mm Stroke \| 72.0 mm Piston displacement \| 970 cc Compression ratio \| 8.8:1 Max. Power \|46.0 HP/5500 rpm (SAE, NET) Max. Torque \|7.2 kgm/3500 rpm (SAE, NET) Carburetor \|MIKUNI two barrel down draft Air Cleaner \|Nonwoven Fabric, Dry Type ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- ELECTRICAL Ignition timing \|8° ± 1° B.T.D.C. /800 rpm Standard spark plug \|NGK – BP5ES, , \|DENSO – W16EX-U \|MODI CHAMPION – N11YC \|MICO – W8DC Spark plug gap \|0.7 ~ 0.8 mm (0.028 ~ 0.031 in) Headlight \| 12V 60/55W Turn signal light (F/R) \|12V 21W Side turn signal light \| 12V 5W Clearance light \| 12V 5W Tail/brake light \| 12V 5/21W Registration plate light\| 12V 5W Reversing light \| 12V 18W Interior light \| 12V 5W Trunk light \|12V 3.8W Meter Pilot light \|12V 3.4W Main Fuse \|60A Primary Fuse \|40A/30A Individual Fuse \|10A/10A/15A/15A/20A/20A/ \|15A/15A/19A/15A Battery \| 35AH / 20HR Starter \|Solenoid shift type Generator \|Alternator ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- TRANSMISSION Clutch type \|Dry single disc, diaphragm Transmission type \|5-forward all synchromesh, 1 reverse Final reduction ratio \|4.388 Gear ratio \| 1st \|3.416 2nd \|1.898 3rd \|1.357 4th \|1.030 5th \|0.870 Reverse \|3.272 ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- STEERING Type \|Rack & Pinion Turning Radius \|4.8m Front axle \| Toe-in \|0±2 mm Camber angle \|0° 0’ Caster angle \|3° 0’ Kingpin angle \|130 Trail \|16mm Rear axle \| Toe-in \|0° Camber angle \|0° ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- WHEEL AND SUSPENSION Tyre size – F/R \| 155/80R13 Tyre pressures - F/R \| 1.8 kg/cm2 ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- BRAKE SYSTEM Type \|4 – wheel hydraulic Wheel Brake: Front \|Disc brake (floating caliper type) Rear \|Drum brake (leading & trailing) Hand Brake \|Mechanical actuated on Rear wheel ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- Suspension type Front \|Macpherson strut and coil spring Rear \|Torsion beam and coil spring ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- CAPACITIES Coolant \|4.0 L Fuel tank \|40 L Engine oil \|3.5 L (Replacement with Oil Filter) Transmission oil \|2.4 L ----------------------------------------------------

6th April 2007, 23:06	#13 (permalink)
Pars Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 4	hey..FT...can u pls give me the contact number of Mr.Somendar Singh of Mysore.who has got a patent in the grooving technology...I guess that u had made grooves on ur car with his help.

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