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Old 15th November 2013, 23:44   #691
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Torque Pro App does allow the addition of custom PID's.

How can we know the PID and how to add?

Anurag.
Easiest way to add plugin or install app tweaked for a particular make-model which have detailed PIDs

http://torque-bhp.com/wiki/Plugins
Also they can add it in main app if requested:
http://torque-bhp.com/software/torqu...d-pid-support/
Short Video on adding custom PID (gives fair idea ):


PIDs can be found via forum search or Professional Diagnostic tools Ilike Autocom CDP / Launch X431 / etc) display PID information which are manufacture specific.


Found a informative forum thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23530

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for those in chennai, if any one wants to try out the Elm 327 bluetooth obd adapter, i can share mine with you to confirm whether it works in your car, before actually ordering.
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Got one yesterday works like a charm with CRV, Polo GT Tsi. Would not budge on Gypsy MPFI 2000 model and Swift DDiS. Santro AT it connects to ECU but pretty much no readings coming up :P

Wanted it for the gyspy, so might put it in classifieds soon. Unless someone can help me with cracking the Gypsy/MUL code.
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for those in chennai, if any one wants to try out the Elm 327 bluetooth obd adapter, i can share mine with you to confirm whether it works in your car, before actually ordering.


Add me to that list.
Device that I possess: generic ELM 327 BT Adapter
Using it with: Figo 2012 Titanium

PM me if you want to try it out with your car.
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Got one yesterday works like a charm with CRV, Polo GT Tsi. Would not budge on Gypsy MPFI 2000 model and Swift DDiS. Santro AT it connects to ECU but pretty much no readings coming up :P
Update works with Chevy Optra 1.6L also Super duper tool this is, wished it worked with MUL vehicles
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Hi Rajan,

I'm not sure, but If I remember it right, the ELM327 + Torque combo does not work for '09 Ritz. I may be wrong though. Have you tried OBD Scope?
My 09 Ritz VXi works perfectly with ELM + Torque combo. The kmpl calculated values are way off, need to go through the whole thread to find out if it can be made better.
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Update works with Chevy Optra 1.6L also Super duper tool this is, wished it worked with MUL vehicles
It works with MUL vehicles too. Check with the Gen2 Swift/DZire/Ertiga.

None of the OBD BT connectors I know work with the old gen Swift and few other old gen cars.
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Update works with Chevy Optra 1.6L also Super duper tool this is, wished it worked with MUL vehicles
Works with BS4 versions in most MUL vehicles. They are Alto K10, WagonR K10, Estilo K10, A-star, Ritz, Gen2 Swift and Dzire, Ertiga, Sx4(vvt version), as well as imported vehicles.

ELM has a list of protocols that it can support in which the above cars use EOBD ISO9141 or ISO15765 protocols. The older cars use a Japanese one which is not supported by default. ELM327 also supports two custom protocols with user programmable settings. If that works, we can get data manually in a serial terminal. I will try doing that sometime once my exams get over and check if it works.

PS I am looking out for a bluetooth version. If you are not keeping it let me know.
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Got one yesterday works like a charm with CRV, Polo GT Tsi.
Jaggu, could you share the link for the OBD adapter you've bought? I would like to see if it works with the GT TDI. I don't see a reason why it wouldn't, given it worked for the TSI.

Is the location for the OBD port somewhere near the steering wheel? What application was used to monitor the data?

I'd be much obliged if you could answer my queries. TIA!
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Is the location for the OBD port somewhere near the steering wheel? What application was used to monitor the data?

I'd be much obliged if you could answer my queries. TIA!
The software than can be used are Torque PRO or Fun2Drive which can be found on Google play store.

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Slightly off topic - the ELM 347bluetooth dongle when I fitted into my 2011 SX4 ZXI VVT BS4, this is how it looked - ugly! Its hinders into the A-pedal/ right foot movement and ingress/ egress.

OBD (On-board diagnostics) for Indian Cars-elm-dongle-so-close-1.jpg

Se how much it comes out -

OBD (On-board diagnostics) for Indian Cars-elm-dongle-so-close-2.jpg

Clearly, manufacturer never expected to drive vehicle with any such diagnostic things attached there! So if i have to just use this while vehicle is stationary, its not great use
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Jaggu, could you share the link for the OBD adapter you've bought? I would like to see if it works with the GT TDI. I don't see a reason why it wouldn't, given it worked for the TSI.

Is the location for the OBD port somewhere near the steering wheel? What application was used to monitor the data?

I'd be much obliged if you could answer my queries. TIA!
http://www.ebay.in/itm/ws/eBayISAPI....E:L:OC:IN:3160

This is what i bought. Polo port is similar to that of SX4 posted above, only thing its horizontal and not vertical in positioning. I used Torque application on Samsung Tab.

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Slightly off topic - the ELM 347bluetooth dongle when I fitted into my 2011 SX4 ZXI VVT BS4, this is how it looked - ugly! Its hinders into the A-pedal/ right foot movement and ingress/ egress.

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Clearly, manufacturer never expected to drive vehicle with any such diagnostic things attached there! So if i have to just use this while vehicle is stationary, its not great use
Get the one that i got, its much more compact, just the height of OBD connector and will not be on your legs way.


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PS I am looking out for a bluetooth version. If you are not keeping it let me know.
Will PM you.
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Get the one that i got, its much more compact, just the height of OBD connector and will not be on your legs way.
Thanks Jaggu, but its an older version of protocols supported - v1.5. The one I bought has v2.1 support of protocols. So if I manage to sell what I have, I will get the mini one as you suggested.
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http://www.ebay.in/itm/ws/eBayISAPI....E:L:OC:IN:3160

This is what i bought. Polo port is similar to that of SX4 posted above, only thing its horizontal and not vertical in positioning. I used Torque application on Samsung Tab.
Thank you! Placed an order for this one:

http://www.ebay.in/itm/221316882337

Unfortunately, I have a Lumia 920 (WP8 device) and the OBD apps. are a little finicky going by the reviews. My roomie has an Android phone and tab however. Let us see how this goes.
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Thank you! Placed an order for this one:

http://www.ebay.in/itm/221316882337

Unfortunately, I have a Lumia 920 (WP8 device) and the OBD apps. are a little finicky going by the reviews. My roomie has an Android phone and tab however. Let us see how this goes.
If i remember correct it has app for Win mob also in the CD, i downloaded the paid Torque app and then later realized that is included in the CD enclosed
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