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Old 9th March 2014, 18:44   #811
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I bought the Super Mini ELM 327, linked extensively above, a couple of months back, and it remains plugged into the Jazz. I use it with the Android app Dash, to track trips etc. Several reviews on Amazon mention the power saving features of the more expensive ScanLink dongles, but I have not seen any major complaints on the Mini ELM about disproportionate battery consumption.
Again my experience is only a short couple of months, but do follow the long term experience reviews there.

My only concern is that the Bluetooth tends to remain ON & connects even when engine is off. So when I'm around the parked car, BT connects and Dash expects me to start a trip. That said there is no interference with vehicle BT, etc.
In short, you dont have to worry about leaving the dongle there. The security system will draw higher amount of power to stay alert for commands.

The ELM327 has a power saving sleep mode which it enters when there is no communication. Since we all get the fake version of the microcontroller, I am not sure if the sleep function is also incorporated unto the replica IC. If it is indeed present, power consumption will be very minimal in this state. I have left mine permanently attached and use the car maybe twice in a week or so. Still there is no issue. There wont be either.
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onyxgaze, even i am interested to buy MINI ELM327 for my Liva.

How was your booking & delivery experience with them ?

Does one need to purchase torque pro OR torque lite is sufficient ?

All i want is RPM & FE details for time being, does this two work on torque lite
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Working great so far.
I used torque lite first and then moved tom pro. Both editions work fine.
Am watching for any overheating or battery drain and I have left the dongle plugged in for the last few days. All we'll so far.
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I use it with the Android app Dash, to track trips etc.
'Dash' looks interesting, didn't know about it earlier. Which features work for you in India? Would be helpful for us if you post some sort of review based on your usage.
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'Dash' looks interesting, didn't know about it earlier. Which features work for you in India? Would be helpful for us if you post some sort of review based on your usage.
Dash remains a work in process & is currently very US centric - access to lowest gas prices, service mechanics, part pricing etc. They recently introduced kpl in a Euro version which I use. After they solved the Android battery drain issues, I track fuel efficiency & sometimes find my last parking spot.
It has an interesting proposition of making driving safe by using social gaming. Bit like Waze or the fitness trackers like Moves. So you get feedback on driving style after each trip, and a score normalized for your area. I remain top of the pops in Bangalore with a score of 98.

The score is very easily influenced by going on long distance trips, or midnight airport runs and the advice, usually on braking, shifting etc is not particularly useful given our harsh Indian driving reality. But it is fun, and it chugs along in the background with little user intervention. Do check it out.
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The mini dongle works great with my fiesta and figo but not with my innova. When I did more searching I found out that the innova is obd1 compliant and the obd2 single would not work. Can someone shed some light on this please
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I had an engine checklight issue last week where the service advisor reset the error after checking the fuel rail for any issue. I had already used by ELM 327 to note down the error before giving to Service advisor for which after resetting has not yet popped up again but informs me that there could be an issue with CR pressure sensor. The error code registered was P1168 for Hyundai which translates to low fuel pressure. Are there any other diagnostics to be done? Could CR pressure sensor be really an issue as suggested by the Service advisor? Please help
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When I did more searching I found out that the innova is obd1 compliant and the obd2 single would not work. Can someone shed some light on this please
So that means your Innova is manufactured prior to 2009? If yes, then the car is OBD-I and will NOT work with the ELM 327 dongle that you have bought. The Figo and Fiesta should be post mid-2009 manufactured hence they are OBD-II complaint and work well with the ELM 327 dongle. Check your Innova's VIN/RC Book for details of MFD.

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The error code registered was P1168 for Hyundai which translates to low fuel pressure. Are there any other diagnostics to be done? Could CR pressure sensor be really an issue as suggested by the Service advisor? Please help
I guess this could be the problem,

P1168 - Hyundai
Type Powertrain - Manufacturer Controlled DTC - Manufacturer Controlled
Description Heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) heater control - circuit malfunction
Location Bank 1 Sensor 2
Cause Wiring, HO2S

http://www.dtcsearch.com/P1168/Hyundai/

One website said fuel rail pressure too:

P1168 - Fuel Rail Sensor In-Range Low Failure

http://www.troublecodes.net/OBD2/Pcodes/
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So that means your Innova is manufactured prior to 2009? If yes, then the car is OBD-I and will NOT work with the ELM 327 dongle that you have bought. The Figo and Fiesta should be post mid-2009 manufactured hence they are OBD-II complaint and work well with the ELM 327 dongle. Check your Innova's VIN/RC Book for details of MFD.
The innova is a 2006 model. Possibly that is the it didn't work. The fiesta is a 2007 model but it does work. Fiestas I guess came with OBD2 port from the beginning

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Has anybody used this OBDII scanner on Ertiga?
I want to know where is the port located in the car.
Also, any other details would be welcome.

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Has anybody used this OBDII scanner on Ertiga?
I want to know where is the port located in the car.
Since the Ertiga is no much different from the Swift, the location of the OBD-II port is same as the Swift.

Here are two pictures for easy understanding:

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It is located above the clutch pedal and near the drivers left knee.

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Since the Ertiga is no much different from the Swift, the location of the OBD-II port is same as the Swift.

Here are two pictures for easy understanding:
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Anurag.
Thanks Anurag.
I will try and feel/see the port by reaching and touching at this location in Ertiga!
Some more questions:
1. Do you keep it connected while driving? Does it touch your left foot/ankle?
2. Is it harmful to keep it continuously attached?
3. What all parameters do you monitor thru OBD?
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Can someone confirm LaunchDBScar Android will work with 2005 Swift. I guess Autosnap IN805 does work, as indicated in a few forums.
Anyone who has tested these products on older Maruti cars please advice.
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Can someone confirm LaunchDBScar Android will work with 2005 Swift. I guess Autosnap IN805 does work, as indicated in a few forums.
Anyone who has tested these products on older Maruti cars please advice.
No app that runs through ELM327 will work with the Swift BS3 versions. Apart from the common ELM dongles I am not sure if you get any other products.
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1. Do you keep it connected while driving? Does it touch your left foot/ankle?
Yes it is connected while driving and does NOT interfere with my leg while driving.

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2. Is it harmful to keep it continuously attached?
Not harmful at all if attached continuously but make sure the car is not idle for more than 2-3 days as the dongle may drain the battery. If car is used regularly (i.e. every day) then there is no problem. The dongle uses less power from the battery but why take a chance.

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3. What all parameters do you monitor thru OBD?
The software I use with the scanner is Torque PRO from Google Play store.

The software gives the following real time information of the engine.

1) Acceleration Sensors,
2) Engine Load,
3) Engine RPM,
4) Fuel Level and Distance to Empty,
5) Intake Manifold Pressure,
6) Mass Air Flow Rate,
7) Throttle Position,
8) Timing Advance,
9) Trip Distance,
10) 0-100kph Time,
11) 0-60kph Time,
12) 1/4 Mile time,
13) 1/8 Mile Time,
14) Altitude (GPS),
15) Ambient Air Temp,
16) Barometric pressure,
17) Engine Coolant Temperature,
18) Fuel Rail Pressure,
19) Fuel Trim bank X sensor X,
20) Horsepower,
21) Intake Air Temperature,
22) Speed (OBD),
23) Speed (GPS),
24) Boost (Turbo) and
25) Voltage.

The other speciality is it reads the ECU fault codes and clears If any are found.
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