OBD (On Board Diagnostics) On Indian Cars... - Team-BHP

sharathjeppu · 30th April 2006, 18:35

Do Indian Cars also have OBD II ports?
Can we use a product like this to get a better understanding of Car Performance?
http://www.davisnet.com/drive/products/carchip_products.asp

Has anybody in this forum used something similar?

Sharath

shldn · 30th April 2006, 23:41

yes they do. i just discovered my Indigo sx is OBD II compliant, it uses the ISO 9141 protocol. i built an interface myself and tested it, but the software i'm using (vag-com) is orignally meant for audi/vw/seat & skoda, so i've not had much luck getting much info from the vehicle. will have to try some other s/w...

Kaizer Sozay · 1st May 2006, 00:57

Can anyone tell me if the Zen MPFI 2002 model is compliant??

tsk1979 · 25th January 2007, 14:24

Welcome to CarMD
This 90$ device can be connected to any OBD compliant ECU, which means most ECUs made after late nineties.
Displays error codes, descriptions etc., etc.,
Anyone every tried it? I guess USA TBHPians will have more idea

babhishek · 26th January 2007, 20:06

There are better products available than carmd, albeit at a higher price.
I use one in my swift as well.
I am not in the US, btw.
AB.

gonecase_01 · 27th January 2007, 01:14

hey babhishek
can u tell me something more about what you have put in your swift....
i may be intrested...

chetanhanda · 27th January 2007, 07:06

Autoenginuity and AutoTap are quite good and quite professional..
both have excellent product support
I recommend Autoenginuity over AutoTap as I have used both and following is what i feel about them
(a) The UI and flow is quite clumsy for Autotap, u need to key in VIN every time
(b) You con configure the interval at which readings are taken.. i.e how many times per second
(c) Autoenginuity has some very good calibrated graphs to explain various readings.. in case of autotap its upto you to figure out some parameters
(d) Autotap crashes sometimes when you are driving while logging data...it was very stable at idel though ..maybe it was specific to my laptop..
(e) Autoenginuity has started giving Vehicle specific proprietery DTC and diagnostics also ..e.g a genric OBd2 will not undesrtand some sensors or treat them as sensor1, sensor2, xyz but with this new features being vehicle they will recognize them and label them more clearly...
(f) last of all Autotap UI is not as slick as Autoenginuity's...
(g) both are accurate in terms of readings ....I cmpared them with those at the delaers ...

tsk1979 · 27th January 2007, 11:56

So do these devices clear false error codes? For example if you car does not start because the ECU is thinking something is wrong when it isnt? So the best way would be to reset the ECU and sensors, can it be done through these devices?

navin · 27th January 2007, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by chetanhanda

Autoenginuity and AutoTap are quite good and quite professional.....

What do they cost?

vikram_d · 27th January 2007, 13:43

Autoenginuity costs about 250 USD. Landed cost should be about 20000 INR if getting through standard shpping channels.

chetanhanda · 30th January 2007, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

So do these devices clear false error codes? For example if you car does not start because the ECU is thinking something is wrong when it isnt? So the best way would be to reset the ECU and sensors, can it be done through these devices?

Yes, the ECU codes can be reset via laptop using Autotap.
by doing this it also clears all the LTFT,STFT,etc everything starts from default values..

tsk1979 · 30th January 2007, 10:32

Most ECU cars in India are OBD-II compliant? If thats the case having such a tool is a good thing.

chetanhanda · 30th January 2007, 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Most ECU cars in India are OBD-II compliant? If thats the case having such a tool is a good thing.

Yes, that will be useful for iNdian cars..
If you go for Autoenginuity they have Hyundai,GM, BMW specific features also which can identify their non standard/non generic codes also.
I was told that a Honda specific version was going to be released in Jan 2007.. but Im still waiting..

Absar · 18th February 2007, 21:26

Hey! I wanted to try one of those OBDII gadgets on my 2005 Ford Ikon, so I mailed AAA (Autocar) and I got the reply that the Ford Ikon doesn't have a OBD port. Is it correct??

rdkarthik · 19th February 2007, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaizer Sozay

Can anyone tell me if the Zen MPFI 2002 model is compliant??

No, it isnt OBD2 compliant.

30th April 2006, 18:35	#1 (permalink)
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tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,273 View My Garage	Anyone have experience with Car MD? Welcome to CarMD This 90$ device can be connected to any OBD compliant ECU, which means most ECUs made after late nineties. Displays error codes, descriptions etc., etc., Anyone every tried it? I guess USA TBHPians will have more idea __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

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27th January 2007, 11:56	#8 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,273 View My Garage	So do these devices clear false error codes? For example if you car does not start because the ECU is thinking something is wrong when it isnt? So the best way would be to reset the ECU and sensors, can it be done through these devices? __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

30th April 2006, 23:41	#2 (permalink)
shldn BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90	yes they do. i just discovered my Indigo sx is OBD II compliant, it uses the ISO 9141 protocol. i built an interface myself and tested it, but the software i'm using (vag-com) is orignally meant for audi/vw/seat & skoda, so i've not had much luck getting much info from the vehicle. will have to try some other s/w...

26th January 2007, 20:06	#5 (permalink)
babhishek BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: KOLKATA Posts: 212 View My Garage	There are better products available than carmd, albeit at a higher price. I use one in my swift as well. I am not in the US, btw. AB.

27th January 2007, 07:06	#7 (permalink)
chetanhanda BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 800	Autoenginuity and AutoTap are quite good and quite professional.. both have excellent product support I recommend Autoenginuity over AutoTap as I have used both and following is what i feel about them (a) The UI and flow is quite clumsy for Autotap, u need to key in VIN every time (b) You con configure the interval at which readings are taken.. i.e how many times per second (c) Autoenginuity has some very good calibrated graphs to explain various readings.. in case of autotap its upto you to figure out some parameters (d) Autotap crashes sometimes when you are driving while logging data...it was very stable at idel though ..maybe it was specific to my laptop.. (e) Autoenginuity has started giving Vehicle specific proprietery DTC and diagnostics also ..e.g a genric OBd2 will not undesrtand some sensors or treat them as sensor1, sensor2, xyz but with this new features being vehicle they will recognize them and label them more clearly... (f) last of all Autotap UI is not as slick as Autoenginuity's... (g) both are accurate in terms of readings ....I cmpared them with those at the delaers ...

27th January 2007, 13:43	#10 (permalink)
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,603 View My Garage	Autoenginuity costs about 250 USD. Landed cost should be about 20000 INR if getting through standard shpping channels. __________________ Been there. Done that.

30th January 2007, 10:32	#12 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,273 View My Garage	Most ECU cars in India are OBD-II compliant? If thats the case having such a tool is a good thing. __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

18th February 2007, 21:26	#14 (permalink)
Absar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madras Posts: 550 View My Garage	Hey! I wanted to try one of those OBDII gadgets on my 2005 Ford Ikon, so I mailed AAA (Autocar) and I got the reply that the Ford Ikon doesn't have a OBD port. Is it correct?? __________________ Ford Ikon 1.6 Nxt ZXi, 2005 I cried because I had no VTEC, until I met a person who had no 1.6 ROCAM.

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