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Old 18th March 2007, 11:06   #1
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One of my friends has a Ford Ikon Sxi 1.6(2004) which has covered 50K.

The car is having some weird issues- One fine day the radiator system gave up and Burst, Got that changed, The advisor also said that the Alternator needs to be changed ( He explain why and My friend just paid up), Then Sometime later the Ignition Coil was replaced and after all this-

He now is having Delayed Start in the mornings ( For an MPFI car I think its quite unheard of) and Even with 10- 15 Selfs the car refuses to start, He drives down to South City Ford-Where all the other services have been done and The Advisor claims Something is wrong with one of the Cylinders..What could it be guys..!

and Just incase the Diagnoses is correct for the cylinder, What all will be done to the Engine..!

No Check Engine Error.
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Problem with one of the cylinders...wht does he mean by that..and how does he come to such a conclusion...Ignition coil is a problem with all ikons..iam getting used to it now...my ikons ignition coil has been changed for the 2nd time.....Delayed start..could you describe more on this...Could be the starter..
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Says First Cylinder is showing lower compression,But no loss in power or pickup when running.

Starter and Ignition coil have been changed..!
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wolfinstein;393696]Hi Guys,

One of my friends has a Ford Ikon Sxi 1.6(2004) which has covered 50K.

The car is having some weird issues- One fine day the radiator system gave up and Burst, Got that changed, The advisor also said that the Alternator needs to be changed ( He explain why and My friend just paid up), Then Sometime later the Ignition Coil was replaced and after all this-
i dont see any reason to change Ignition Coil & alternator if problem is with radiator why they have changed it???


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He now is having Delayed Start in the mornings ( For an MPFI car I think its quite unheard of) and Even with 10- 15 Selfs the car refuses to start, He drives down to South City Ford-Where all the other services have been done and The Advisor claims Something is wrong with one of the Cylinders..What could it be guys..!
and Just incase the Diagnoses is correct for the cylinder, What all will be done to the Engine..!
No Check Engine Error.
Regular Service.
Self-Driven.
Nothing doing to the engine now, get your fuel supply checked first especially the fuel pump motor & clogged fuel filter.

I wont be surprised if they have changed good parts with bad one during fixing your radiator.
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Old 18th March 2007, 11:39   #5
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But if the fuel line is choked, The supply would be restricted to all the Injector would'nt it..!

I also suspected one of the Injectors, He is on his way to the Center as I write...So Will let you all know what service center has now advised..!
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Ok here is the latest,

The service center says the Head will be changed for the Engine, 2 bolts required, Head Gasket..!

Can someone list me where can i source spares for the Ikon..!

@ Arush- I don't have the address for your garage, Is it possible to come meet up for the case.

Anything else that can be done..!
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Did your friend drive the vehicle for a longtime when the radiator had conked off?

he will be staring down at a 40-50K bill if he needs to replace the head.
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This sounds like pure & utter bullsh!t from the dealer / 'Service Advisor'. Please take the car to autopsyche or somebody you trust & have a thorough checkup done.

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Wooooow! Replacing the engine head would cost that much?? OMG!
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Methinks the only thing you should replace is your 'Service Advisor'.
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Ok here is the latest,

The service center says the Head will be changed for the Engine, 2 bolts required, Head Gasket..!

Can someone list me where can i source spares for the Ikon..!

@ Arush- I don't have the address for your garage, Is it possible to come meet up for the case.

Anything else that can be done..!
On what basis is he saying the head needs to be changed? whats the estimate he has given???
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Methinks the only thing you should replace is your 'Service Advisor'.


Good one elf!! I'd second that!!

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Also ask him to do a compression test in front of you & if possible take a mechanic with you who knows about engine & compression test.

@ELF thats the first thing he should do... LOL
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Has a compression test been done on each of the cylinders?

There is no way compression in one of your cylinders could be bad, as in that case you will have the car not pulling smoothly when the engine is cold. Check for contamination of colant in your engine oil dipstick in the morning. My guess is that it is not going to be so.

Try simple injector cleaning.
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Lol..! I really wish the poor guy had done that long ago..! Apparently there are only two Ford service stations in Delhi- This one being South City Ford.

The Head is found to be damaged and is opened up at the workshop- Current estimate is Close to 40 k, I have suggested my friend to take a second opinion..!

Yes he drove around 20- 30 kms without coolant, The radiator burst happened in Gurgaon and The needle for Temp C did not rise until he was parking at his home in Saket, After that he drove with Water to the Service Station. Got the Radiator replaced, Coolant and Alternator was adjusted and Thermostat was changed ( Alternator was not changed as mentioned earlier).

Now lets see what happens ahead...!

BTW can a head be repaired in any case ?

The Only surprise is that the Car runs fine, Just the way Josh machine should..But when it does not crank in the mornings with a Cold engine...It becomes a Joke Machine

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