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Old 29th October 2012, 22:04   #76
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I visited the shopd today and found these options for alto front shockers:

Maruti MGP: Rs 2320
Gabriel : Rs 2500
Delphi : Rs 2600

any idea which one i should go for? The maruti MGP is from Maruti regional distributor so is definitely original. Other two are reputed auto shops but i will have to believe their word as i have never seen a shocker so wouldnt be able to judge.
And i was told labour for the same is around Rs 300-400. Is this okay?
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Old 29th October 2012, 22:22   #77
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Gabriel and Delphi are both good shock absorbers. Provided both fit without any adjustments and are equal if not better, go for them. Any idea what brand the mgp one is
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Gabriel and Delphi are both good shock absorbers. Provided both fit without any adjustments and are equal if not better, go for them. Any idea what brand the mgp one is
thanks pganapathy, how can i know if they need adjustments or are a direct fit?
i guess they should be standard size for alto. No idea about the mgp make, will try and find out from the dealer and post here.
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thanks pganapathy, how can i know if they need adjustments or are a direct fit?
i guess they should be standard size for alto. No idea about the mgp make, will try and find out from the dealer and post here.
As a rule of thumb they should be of a standard size and a direct fit. Just check with the mechanic or shop people.

Asked about brand of mgp, because most manufacturers do look at cost saving for oem parts, though a lot of them are willing to have better quality for spares. Also, what type of shock absorbers are the various brands.
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The Dealer, perhaps, is selling at MRP the Gabriel and Delphi ones. Better buy the MGP one from a dealership or MGP store.
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As a rule of thumb they should be of a standard size and a direct fit. Just check with the mechanic or shop people.

Asked about brand of mgp, because most manufacturers do look at cost saving for oem parts, though a lot of them are willing to have better quality for spares. Also, what type of shock absorbers are the various brands.
will ask the make of MGP ones.
one dealer told me that all alto front shockers of every make are oil filled. at that time i believed it, but now i smell something fishy. Are the front shockers for alto gas filled?


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The Dealer, perhaps, is selling at MRP the Gabriel and Delphi ones. Better buy the MGP one from a dealership or MGP store.
The MGP is from Maruti distributor CM sales (having only MGP parts) and listed in my owner manual. He is charging print price which is same to the rupee as Maruti dealer (but dealer charges tax extra). Can this MGP be had for a discount in other shops?

the others are from different general automotive shops.
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^^^ What I meant was that the MGP part can be trusted and that doesn't mean that Gabriel and Delphi are bad. Since you are having a price advantage you can buy MGP with your eyes closed. As a bulk buyer Maruti perhaps, may be getting a lesser rate and a percentage of which may be getting passed on to the customer also.

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Hey there,

As per my knowledge as well, the Alto only gets the oil-filled front shocks, irrespective of the brand.

As for the make of the OEM, its not just one company. You would find that some are Monroe, some are Gabriel. I haven't heard of Delphi shocks being used as MGP. Also, when I had gotten my car's front shocks replaced, Delphi was having a bad time in the market due to problems in their shocks.

Therefore, stick to either MGP or get the Gabriel ones. The price is alright, maybe a little scope for about 100-150 bucks.

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will ask the make of MGP ones.
one dealer told me that all alto front shockers of every make are oil filled. at that time i believed it, but now i smell something fishy. Are the front shockers for alto gas filled?
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^^^ What I meant was that the MGP part can be trusted and that doesn't mean that Gabriel and Delphi are bad. Since you are having a price advantage you can buy MGP with your eyes closed. As a bulk buyer Maruti perhaps, may be getting a lesser rate and a percentage of which may be getting passed to the customer.
thanks for clearing that.
i thought that Maruti branded ones would be more expensive than buying the same thing directly from the company as maruti would take some profit for themselves. though the bulk purchase argument could also be valid.
will go and check, if the MGP are gabriel then its definitely MGP.

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Hey there,

As per my knowledge as well, the Alto only gets the oil-filled front shocks, irrespective of the brand.

As for the make of the OEM, its not just one company. You would find that some are Monroe, some are Gabriel. I haven't heard of Delphi shocks being used as MGP. Also, when I had gotten my car's front shocks replaced, Delphi was having a bad time in the market due to problems in their shocks.

Therefore, stick to either MGP or get the Gabriel ones. The price is alright, maybe a little scope for about 100-150 bucks.
thanks blackfire_9, delphi is out of contention now. Its MGP or Gabriel.
Is there a way to find the make by looking at the MGP box? i dont think it will be clearly written " made by xyz" etc.


PS: by the way yesterday i mailed to Gabriel to ask about their dealer in the area, but havent got any reply yet. the links on their page dont work either.
http://www.gabrielindia.com/customer...nt-market.aspx

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Hey there,

I don't think there is any way for an individual to know what make a particular stock of MGP shockers is, but I had got this information about the OEM suppliers through an industrial visit to the plant of the company that manufactures Monroe shockers.

As for contacting Gabriel, I also had a hard time reaching somebody from the company though eventually I did. Unfortunately, I have lost the contact details now. What I can help you with is the number of a local spare parts shop from where I make most purchases & he can probably assist you with a relevant person's contact number in Delhi, who can in turn direct you to somebody in Chandigarh.

By the way, have you tried at Manimajra? If yes, which shop?

Lastly, I believe you already saw this information on the website but still wanted to confirm:

Gabriel India Limited

29, Milestone Village Kuruli
Pune Nasik Highway
Taluk Khed,
Pune:- 410501
India

Phone: 09922908401 to 04

E-mail: contact@gabriel.co.in

OE - Domestic & Exports
E-mail: cs.subramanian@anandgroupindia.com

After Market - Domestic & Exports
E-mail: amitabh.srivastava@gabriel.co.in

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thanks blackfire_9, delphi is out of contention now. Its MGP or Gabriel.
Is there a way to find the make by looking at the MGP box? i dont think it will be clearly written " made by xyz" etc.


PS: by the way yesterday i mailed to Gabriel to ask about their dealer in the area, but havent got any reply yet. the links on their page dont work either.
http://www.gabrielindia.com/customer...nt-market.aspx

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Hey there,

I don't think there is any way for an individual to know what make a particular stock of MGP shockers is, but I had got this information about the OEM suppliers through an industrial visit to the plant of the company that manufactures Monroe shockers.

As for contacting Gabriel, I also had a hard time reaching somebody from the company though eventually I did. Unfortunately, I have lost the contact details now. What I can help you with is the number of a local spare parts shop from where I make most purchases & he can probably assist you with a relevant person's contact number in Delhi, who can in turn direct you to somebody in Chandigarh.

By the way, have you tried at Manimajra? If yes, which shop?

Lastly, I believe you already saw this information on the website but still wanted to confirm:

Gabriel India Limited

29, Milestone Village Kuruli
Pune Nasik Highway
Taluk Khed,
Pune:- 410501
India

Phone: 09922908401 to 04

E-mail: contact@gabriel.co.in

OE - Domestic & Exports
E-mail: cs.subramanian@anandgroupindia.com

After Market - Domestic & Exports
E-mail: amitabh.srivastava@gabriel.co.in
thanks blackfire,
this amitabh srivastav is who i mailed and got a reply that a certain cs pant handles this area and will revert to me, but i have heard nothing after that.

manimajra was the first place i checked, the MGP is from CM sales mani majra and the Gabriel is from shivam motors mani majra, also tried a few others but they did not have any stock. any shop you would recommend ?
the Delphi was bombay motors sec28 chd, but have decided againt that.
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