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Old 19th January 2015, 00:37   #31
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Now coming to the issue I faced :

I was in 5th gear doing about 80 kms, spotted the hump so applied breaks, de clutched, shifted to 2nd and I released the clutch and the car jerked. I realized the car had stalled, I thought may be I did not engage the clutch properly and it stalled. Did not want that to happen again so next time the hump came I slowed down to about 35 -40 in 5th gear without de clutching then put it to neutral and went over the hump then engaged 1st/2nd gear and continued.
5th gear @ 80kmph coming down to 5-10 kmph in neutral and once you cross the speed breaker you shift to 1st/2nd! IMO is it the right way to do?

The speed breaker is visible from distance? If yes why not use engine braking rather than the brakes itself. All ancillaries will work at that time.

Rather than shifting to neutral (highly dangerous) and letting the car glide, downshift 5-4-3-2-1, go over the hump smoothly without letting the engine to die!

It is best to use 1st gear for speed breakers as the car pulls correctly from 5-10 kmph. I know diesel engine have good low end torque to compensate but not worth lugging it in second gear!

1st - 0 to 20
2nd - 20 to 35
3rd - 35 to 50
4th - 50 to 65
5th - 65 and above.

Try using this range for every gear and see how the car behaves!

NOTE: I am advocating that what I am following is the best procedure. It is just a suggestion.

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Old 19th January 2015, 08:22   #32
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Now please help me understand what could be the issue :
Could this be an issue with the clutch or could this be because am not de clutching properly ? Has any ford owners faced this earlier ? How to get it fixed ? I do not know how to reproduce this problem if I take it to the service station . Please help !
I dont think its a clutch issue. It either is a fueling issue, or an issue as seen below. For rectifying the fueling issue,

Check:
1. Fuel Fileter
2. Bad Fuel.
3. Clogged/Blocked lines.

Also, since the Fiesta and the Figo has the same engine, check this out. I have a strong feeling both are related.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...e-ford-38.html (Figo TDCi: Dies occasionally while downshifting! Solved: Updated firmware by Ford)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ocks-move.html (Ford Figo's dangerous behaviour : Steering locks on the move!)

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Also, since the Fiesta and the Figo has the same engine, check this out. I have a strong feeling both are related.
Figo and Fiesta both have different maps; the one in Figo is bit more aggressive(pun not intended), while the fiesta's map didn't have any engine stalling issues.
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Rather than shifting to neutral (highly dangerous) and letting the car glide, downshift 5-4-3-2-1, go over the hump smoothly without letting the engine to die!
I tried the same, slowed down gradually from 5-4-3-2 and neutral and released the clutch, moved over the hump and then again 1st or 2nd based on how small the hump is. My idea was not to de clutch for a longer time but that did not help

The speeds and gear ratio is almost the same what am following but I completely agree with you on both the suggestions.


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I dont think its a clutch issue. It either is a fueling issue, or an issue as seen below. For rectifying the fueling issue,

Check:
1. Fuel Fileter
2. Bad Fuel.
3. Clogged/Blocked lines.

Also, since the Fiesta and the Figo has the same engine, check this out. I have a strong feeling both are related.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...e-ford-38.html (Figo TDCi: Dies occasionally while downshifting! Solved: Updated firmware by Ford)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ocks-move.html (Ford Figo's dangerous behaviour : Steering locks on the move!)
Thanks for the pointers dhanushs, seems like a common issue with ford. Will go through the both the threads to take highlights of what could be the reason ,will take it to F.A.S.S and see what they do to fix it. Since this issue has already occurred am assuming F.A.S.S should be aware.

One more thing I observed today - the steering seems to be a little hard, is it related ?

Was wondering what makes the engine stall when you down shift when you brake and also de clutch when car is doing around 70-80 kmph? At slower speeds also I down shift in the city but it never stalls at that time.

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HI All
This is a problem being faced by my friend
He has a Santro Xing 2003 Petrol AT July make and odo shows 59000 KM , he is the single Driver barring 3000 - 4000 KM He only drive ..
Off late he is facing an issue of engine stopping randomly , he could not find a pattern when it stops , as it stopped when he slowing down , when he is going at normal speed , when going upward on a flyover , while coming downward from a flyover, with AC, without AC . and he is feeling a kind of jerky behavior at times ..
He made rounds to 3 Service centres of Hyundai in Bangalore , the Kalyan Nagar one , Mahadeva Pura one and the one near Ring road corner .. but not even once they could reproduce the problem so everytime they are checking the scanner saying some wiring loose connect , cranking sensor wiring is loose etc and tightening .. still problem is reoccuring ..
He is using car very sparingly because of this issue .. for a second opinion he took it to Mahindra First Choice centre in whitefield , atleast they are spending time in checking every part , they thoroughly checked the fuel pump/filter checked other fuses .. still they are facing the stopping issue in their test drives .. they said they will check the ECM part now
when engine stops he can change gear to neutral and crank , it immediately starts ..
What could be the reason for this problem and which other aspects to be checked .. could there be an issue with Transmission mechanism !!..

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