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Old 7th March 2012, 13:09   #226
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Thanks Vikram, well that sounds good if the Exedy lasts that much that too on a turbo swift. Well I am game to go for this in my next change which may happen in around a months time as the clutch is getting hard and the car is not pulling how it should.

Well out of this current topic can you also help me with what is the life expectancy of the disc rotors on an ABS equipped vehicle, I have got it replaced twice in the 63K kms as the reason given was they last 35K max for ABS equipped ones. I could also see the worn out disc rotors when they were getting replaced and the braking had become poor aswell.
This is a little and I hope the mods will allow it for once. If I remember correctly I had replaced the brake discs on my car at 80k kms. The reason for my changing them was not because of disc wear but the stock discs were not too good with the turbo set up and I bought new OEM discs and slotted them for better braking and now my car has done at 1.2 lakh kms and slotted discs are still running fine though the slots tend to eat up the brake pads a little sooner, but that is expected in slotted rotors.

The minimum thickness of the brake disc is mentioned on the disc itself. If the disc is thicker than that number then you have nothing to worry about.
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Old 7th March 2012, 13:21   #227
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hi gaaij,
i dont know whether this is relevant now or not but i owned a petrol swift for about 9 months before i switched over to the diesel.
the car had done around 69000 kilometers when i sold it off. the clutch was still stock and i never had had any issues with it.
the diesel swift clutch lasted an amazing 168000 kilometers before it gave up its ghost.
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Old 7th March 2012, 20:47   #228
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Hi,

Where did you get the Clutch Job done?.......
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Few questions
- What's a stage 1 clutch?
- What all do you have to change while changing the clutch - i.e. what are the different sub-parts?
- What was the cost of getting the thing done - parts + labour?
- Where did you get it done?
The clutch job was done at Pace Automobiles at RT Nagar. Its a MASS, but has a slightly more informal setup and that works for me since I like to be at the service bay when the car is being worked upon. They charged me under 8k for the entire job (parts and labour).
@prateek_ch, 10k km is atrocious. The stock clutches are best avoided. Exedy is definitely the no. 1 choice, but there are other brands in the market too.
@carboy, as far as I know, Stage 1 clutches are for lightly modified cars and are suitable for daily use. Stage 2 clutches are mostly for track use and I've heard that they are pretty hard. When changing the clutch, you should change: 1.Clutch plate, 2.Pressure plate and 3.Release bearing. As vikram_d has said in his post, it is essential to change all 3 components. I have posted pics of my old clutch plate and pressure plate in an earlier post.
As I mentioned earlier, I'm not sure that this is the Stage 1 clutch. The guys at Pace automobiles mentioned that this model is used both in the Swift and Baleno. If you require any other details about the place, PM me.

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I have a few Questions
- Does anyone know why the Swift Clutch gets spoilt fast for some people (mine has last 60K+ without any problems?)
- Why does the clutch Judder - i.e. my clutch has juddered through most of the 60K kms
- Is there any difference between a clutch got from Maruti & an OEM replacement clutch made by other companies (like say Exedy or Bosch)

Basically what I want to ask is when I replace my clutch, if I want to make sure problems won't happen to my new clutch, do I have to replace it with a Stage 1 clutch - or will replacing it with an Exedy OEM Quality one help?
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@carboy, I think it was about 7k. I got lots of stuff done so I'm a bit hazy on the cost of just the clutch job. 60k km is pretty good. A swift clutch that lasts more than 45k km probably has more to do with careful driving and does not in any way indicate a superior product. I would recommend that you change the clutch at about 75k km. I would have changed it then, but got a bit obsessed with seeing how many km I could push the OEM clutch.
Looking at the pic of my old clutch, how much longer do you think I could have driven with it? The MASS guys said 'about 500km at the most', but I do feel that I could have done another 3k - 5k km easily.
Can you tell me where to buy this clutch? It is available at MASS itself or from outside shop?
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Hey guys, I owned a Swift Diesel earlier, I did 1.3 lakh KM with original clutch and sold the car. I m quite sure it could do another 20-30k km. Currently I own an Innova, my friends who own one are suggesting that 1.5-1.75 lakh KM which IMHO is quite the right longevity of the clutch if driven correctly.
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Can you tell me where to buy this clutch? It is available at MASS itself or from outside shop?
The MASS people sourced the clutch for me. It was the first request they had got for an exedy but they seemed to have no problems getting hold of one. The Swift clutch is so notorious that most MASS guys are quite happy to get you a non MGP alternative.
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Dear TBHPIans,
Last week the clutch in my SWIFT LDi was replaced for the 3rd time in 17000KMs. The first one was changed in 38500KMs when that car had hit a water puddle during the December 2010 monsoon in Chennai. Then it was changed at MSM. Just after bringin the car out of the service station the car stopped moving in 2nd gear and I had to drive it back slowly into MSM. They took another 4 days to work on it and then the pick up was poor.At 42000KMs the clutch had some problems and after multiple mail exchanges MSM Engineers and the Regional Service head checked it again and it was ok for sometime.After this the car was mainly used in the Chennai-Trichy-Madurai highways where clutch usage was a bare minimum as compared to Chennai traffic.At 48000KMs the clutch was too bad and again through an exchange of mails the Regional Service Head for south zone intervened and got the Clutch and Flywheel changed for free. At 51000KMs there was this problem with the clutch and they said the gear oil was low and leaking and they got it topped up.Now its 55000KMs and the clutch was changed again. The reason cited was oil seepage through the gear box oil seal and checking on the comments by the SA on GEAR OIL TOPPING FOR LEAKAGE, they say that there was no such advice and then I had to pay up Rs.9692 to Solamalai Maruti at Madurai on 25th March for changing the clutch, oil seals, air filter including the labor.

I wonder how much more I should shell out for my SWIFT due to the incompetent diagnosis and repairs done by MASS.

Is there anyway that I can go in for a PERFORMANCE CLUTCH for SWIFT which can last atleast for 40000KMs. Any inputs in this regard please
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Jehu - Looks like an incompetent MAS. My advice would be to show the car to another MASS.
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Well out of this current topic can you also help me with what is the life expectancy of the disc rotors on an ABS equipped vehicle, I have got it replaced twice in the 63K kms as the reason given was they last 35K max for ABS equipped ones. I could also see the worn out disc rotors when they were getting replaced and the braking had become poor aswell.
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my car is a fiat linea emotion pack and according to the service center fiat linea disc rotors life is a maximum of 45k kilometers in rare case it may go up to 55k-60k.Then my linea clutch completed its life at 36k(car is perfectly maintained and i dont have the habit of resting foot on the clutch) ,like i mentioned above the clutch life of linea is up to a maximum of 45k kilometers and in rare case there is cars which completed more than 60k in stock clutch.
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Can someone please share the price of Exedy Stage 1 Clutch set complete set for Swift Petrol 1.3.
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Can someone please share the price of Exedy Stage 1 Clutch set complete set for Swift Petrol 1.3.
Last I heard they were being priced betwen 14 - 17k, but this was about a year back.
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Last I heard they were being priced betwen 14 - 17k, but this was about a year back.
Do you have to change the whole thing - i.e. can just the clutch plates be changed?
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I think its suggested to complete the entire set for better results.
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Guys,

I roasted the clutch in my Swift Vxi for the 3rd time in 85k. There's no problem in my driving style as I have been driving my other two cars (Fiesta 1.6 & Chevy Spark) equally. These cars never had any clutch problems!

Is the Pressure plate and Flywheel an integral part of the clutch system, or just replacing the clutch plate would do? The MASS people insist on changing the entire set (Rs 10k with labour)

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