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| Senior - BHPian | Will not add any of my comments besides, hmmmm...interesting.. Enjoy Quote:
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| Senior - BHPian | Wow 85 views and no reply on a complete redesign of how an engine works..?? ![]() If you cant get to the page: here is more of the overview: Quote:
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| BHPian | Sounds like an excellent idea, but there have been technical innovations similar in magnitude to this before. Great ideas and even workable concepts like the aspin rotary valve, the wankel rotary engine itself, the orbital two-stroke engine, the beare six-stroke engine, all proved there is something better than the basic poppet-valved four-stroke. But there is a problem. And that problem is the automotive industry's conservative attitude to adopting radically different technology. Name one engine-related innovation in the past 50 years that has become an industry standard, and isnt related to improving the poppet-valve four stroke engine. There are NONE! Part of this is because most customers dont care HOW their engine works, and just expect the solid reliability they have been used to. A radically new engine isnt going to have that reliability no matter how good a concept it is. It needs considerable engineering muscle to achieve the four-stroke poppet valve engine's efficiency, reliability & relative ease of manufacturing. Example: Mazda and NSU's wankel engineering. Mazda has spend 50 long years in developing the wankel, but the amount of money spent on it is miniscule compared to that spent on the conventional engine. Most of Mazda's research was materials based and that is going to be the case with any engine that has relative motion of parts different to what is "conventional". The conclusion is, none of the major manufacturers are gonna come forward and use this engine in a big way. Dont get me wrong, I am all for it, but it aint gonna happen.
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| BHPian | key components could not be cooled many other parts could not be lubricated, overheating and all the start running shutdown issues of spark (read this on cycleforums long time back) some members were of the view that it was a technology supressed by Ford for political reasons (oil)
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| BHPian | Damn right it was Ford & the other two. Most technical problems werent of a serious nature and could have been sorted out with development. My best bet is that excellent but poorly-funded ideas like the orbital will end up in the hands of chinese manufacturers who will have the time and money to invest in a completely new idea and then dominate the world market with their other obvious advantages.
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| BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore
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Is it for real?? 1000cc and 250 Bhp?? I gotta feel it to believe it | |
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| Senior - BHPian | Forget the 250 horses. At 1000cc, it's still acceptable, considering the 800cc+ desmodromics clock 200 ponies. Look at the revs at which this engine makes that power...2000 RPM...???!!!! Holy mother of god...what's the torque on this mutha..? Another point to note is the architecture...3 power strokes per cycle... Someone once said..four strokes are a giant leap...backwards....this kinda emphasizes on that, eh...?
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| Senior - BHPian | Hm. This's something like the Wankel engine...just as different....the piston is pushed up & down through a shaft, by an ovoid half, through all cycles, instead of your regular crank/conrods...just take a closer look at the diagrams, guys... One thing, though...the F1 engines have hydraulic "head gaskets" as well, that allow variable compressions...but this...is straight through the roof...38:1..? WAY radical...although the engine should be able to withstand those forces, owing to low piston velocity...(most of the high-revving petrols have piston velocities above 25 m/s...the NEVIS runs at 7, lesser than a low performance diesel...) One question; what's the torque, yaar...? EDIT; Just remembered...at verying compressions upto 38, a single engine can be used to run with petrol AND diesel, subject to fuelling...!!
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| BHPian | The power to weight ratio should be really good. 80kgs @ 250hp is really good. Ananth would bad fuel economy be a reason for the wankels to not catch up in popularity (political reasons aside)?? Are you suggesting that the existing 4-stroke is more efficient in comparison to the nevis?
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| Team-BHP Support ![]() | My friend recently returned a RX08 he had on lease. Poor fuel economy (17mpg), oil consumption (1 quart every 3000 miles or so) were the 2 big issues and we all know about 45,000 engine rebuilds due to worn rotor seals. Bottom line, he was smart to lease it.
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| BHPian | Quote:
I am not saying the 4 stroke is more efficient, I'm saying it has reached such a high stage of development that its very hard to match up to its combination of efficiency, reliability and longevity.
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Is it for real?? 1000cc and 250 Bhp?? I gotta feel it to believe it
