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Old 25th July 2012, 16:27   #1126
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paint your alloys, and the chrome stuff (grill, logos) in black and your car shall be a looker.
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Old 25th July 2012, 16:56   #1127
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Looks great Ryan. Nice work. Do make sure that water doesnt seep in.

I feel the for the OHC, the double projector setup looks even better and nicely spread out within the headlight assembly. I think retro rides in delhi had made one such projector lights for the OHC.
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Looks great Ryan. Nice work. Do make sure that water doesnt seep in.

I feel the for the OHC, the double projector setup looks even better and nicely spread out within the headlight assembly. I think retro rides in delhi had made one such projector lights for the OHC.
That would cost a bomb for sure!
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Old 25th July 2012, 17:42   #1129
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I have been again experiencing that whitish smoke come out from the ac vents.Im not sure if it is related to the condensation because when i put my hand near the vents when the white smoke/vapour comes out the air is not cold.This is with the ac switched on.Happens during summers,winters and rainy season.The ac cooling is normal.
The blower speed is always kept at the second level.Any idea (apart from the condensation) what it could be ?
Another thing that i have been experiencing recently is that when i start the car and let it warm up for sometime and then i start driving the car suddenly shudders/jerks like as if its gasping for breath.
This happens at any gear , whether 1st or 3rd gear.Then i rev the engine and it stops jerking.This happens even when i drive for more than an 25minutes or so.
Any idea if its an issue with the spark plugs or any other part of the engine.Will a regular servic solve the problem.Let me know what you'll think.
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I have been again experiencing that whitish smoke come out from the ac vents.Im not sure if it is related to the condensation because when i put my hand near the vents when the white smoke/vapour comes out the air is not cold.This is with the ac switched on.Happens during summers,winters and rainy season.The ac cooling is normal.
The blower speed is always kept at the second level.Any idea (apart from the condensation) what it could be ?
Another thing that i have been experiencing recently is that when i start the car and let it warm up for sometime and then i start driving the car suddenly shudders/jerks like as if its gasping for breath.
This happens at any gear , whether 1st or 3rd gear.Then i rev the engine and it stops jerking.This happens even when i drive for more than an 25minutes or so.
Any idea if its an issue with the spark plugs or any other part of the engine.Will a regular servic solve the problem.Let me know what you'll think.

I used to get the jerks when i got my vtec. A Normal service with throttle body cleaning did the job for me. Dont know about the white smoke from AC Vents, havent experienced it till date in any of the cars i have owned.
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I have been again experiencing that whitish smoke come out from the ac vents.Im not sure if it is related to the condensation because when i put my hand near the vents when the white smoke/vapour comes out the air is not cold.This is with the ac switched on.Happens during summers,winters and rainy season.The ac cooling is normal.
i too experience that in my Vtec but happens only if i turn off the AC and then turn it back on after 10-15 mins, whitish smoke (it is actually not smoke) comes out of the vents for 8-10 seconds. i think this is related to condensation and it happens in my lancer too.
if you search the forum, you'll few members have also reported the same issue.
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Thanks people.I used to think that the white smoke was some kinda leak.But then its odourless.Nothing happens to the car while driving.
Also was wondering what your running costs per km must be.Mine is at Rs10/km.Is that too high or is it average.
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Thanks people.I used to think that the white smoke was some kinda leak.But then its odourless.Nothing happens to the car while driving.
Also was wondering what your running costs per km must be.Mine is at Rs10/km.Is that too high or is it average.
Is 10 rs per km only petrol cost? Or is it total of fuel and long term maintenance cost. 10 per km only for fuel is too high. In Mumbai with 75 rs per liter of petrol cost my per km fuel cost is 6.25 rs :-). I constantly get between 12 to 12.5 kmpl in city driving with 90% ac on.
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Is 10 rs per km only petrol cost? Or is it total of fuel and long term maintenance cost. 10 per km only for fuel is too high. In Mumbai with 75 rs per liter of petrol cost my per km fuel cost is 6.25 rs :-). I constantly get between 12 to 12.5 kmpl in city driving with 90% ac on.
Thats cost of fuel with maintenance cost over a period of three years.This maintenance cost includes everything from coolant to tyres to a music system.Maybe if i remove the music system and tyres i would get a better cost per km.
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I have cleaned up as much as I could. I did not open te wiper assembly though if this outside cleaning does not help will remove and clean completely.
okay, the problem resurfaced. The car held for a couple of rains since i did the cleaning, but yesterday it was soaked again. i guess the cleaning was not sufficient/the problem is something else?

i noticed that carpet higher up (where the pedals are on the driver's side) do not get wet. Its only the very bottom of the passenger footwell. Does that indicate anything?

Also, apart from the fungus thats all over the interior, I had something weird on the Window GLASS on the inside. Inspite of using colin it wasnt coming off. Hard scrubbing took off some silvery thing. dont think its fungus. any idea?

i really need to get thing sorted. pls help. Do suggest ways to disinfect the car given its a fungus bred house currently
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okay, the problem resurfaced. The car held for a couple of rains since i did the cleaning, but yesterday it was soaked again. i guess the cleaning was not sufficient/the problem is something else?

i noticed that carpet higher up (where the pedals are on the driver's side) do not get wet. Its only the very bottom of the passenger footwell. Does that indicate anything?

Also, apart from the fungus thats all over the interior, I had something weird on the Window GLASS on the inside. Inspite of using colin it wasnt coming off. Hard scrubbing took off some silvery thing. dont think its fungus. any idea?

i really need to get thing sorted. pls help. Do suggest ways to disinfect the car given its a fungus bred house currently
In most probability, you will have to remove your windscreen and get it refixed or add sealant to the windscreen perimeter. I had the water leakage issue last year. Many thought it might be AC, however it turned out to be the windscreen sealant. Post rectification, there was no issues at all. I still remember driving to Kolad and back last year in heavy rain and i faced no issues at all.
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In most probability, you will have to remove your windscreen and get it refixed or add sealant to the windscreen perimeter. I had the water leakage issue last year. Many thought it might be AC, however it turned out to be the windscreen sealant. Post rectification, there was no issues at all. I still remember driving to Kolad and back last year in heavy rain and i faced no issues at all.
Just one question there, if it was the windscreen, how is it that only the passenger side footwell is collecting water.

The dash doesn't seem to be affected. Not a drop elsewhere.
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Just one question there, if it was the windscreen, how is it that only the passenger side footwell is collecting water.

The dash doesn't seem to be affected. Not a drop elsewhere.
Exact same issue happened with me. Only passenger side had become a mini pond while the drivers side was totally dry. The sealant might have come off from the passenger side hence the issue. it would be better to check before the heavy rains start. Take it to winshield experts who would charges a minimal amount to take out the windscreen and fix it back with new sealant. But first make sure that the leakage is because of the same reason not because of any AC pipe leakage.

Take out all the water using a cloth and keep 2 - 3 full newspapers (not just a few pages) to soak away all the water from the floor. Keep changing the newspapers every day till you get a fully dry carpet. Hope this helps.
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Exact same issue happened with me. Only passenger side had become a mini pond while the drivers side was totally dry. The sealant might have come off from the passenger side hence the issue. it would be better to check before the heavy rains start. Take it to winshield experts who would charges a minimal amount to take out the windscreen and fix it back with new sealant. But first make sure that the leakage is because of the same reason not because of any AC pipe leakage.

Take out all the water using a cloth and keep 2 - 3 full newspapers (not just a few pages) to soak away all the water from the floor. Keep changing the newspapers every day till you get a fully dry carpet. Hope this helps.
Thanks! Will see if it's a windscreen issue using the smoke test. If its indeed that will head to windshield experts. Any idea how much it had cost you?

For the time being I have used a car cover to prevent more water. The newspaper trick works well to soak up the water.
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They look pretty rad Ryan! thank for the pics. Let us know the specs later.

btw, is it possible to change only the plastic of the HL's?? I thought you need to change the whole set??






@Vivek5870 : The sound you're getting when turning at slow speeds / idle is due to the steering fluid leak itself. You'll also find the steering ever so slightly stiffer if not more to turn about.

Till the time you get the steering leak fixed, make sure to keep topping up the steering oil reservoir with steering fluid. The steering oil should be filled up till the upper level indicated on the reservoir (because oil will keep dripping out causing the level to drop to the lower level quite soon) It should buy you some time, but i'd recommend that you get it fixed asap.
Thanks for the suggestion Vandit. I have been topping up the fluid for some time now and keep a tight check on this one. Surprisingly, I feel that the leakage has reduced a lot from the earlier days and the loss of fluid is going down day by day (could be my perception because of the dust that has gathered on the leaky area).

I would also like to know if the stop leak solution from Lucas / other brands works for power steering or not. Also, is it possible to procure this stuff here in Delhi and would it be advisable to spend money on this rather than go for the oil seal replacement.

Anyone from Delhi or Noida who could refer me to a good mechanic for routine service and all these kind of odd jobs. My car is 10 yrs old now and I would prefer to get the job done in front of me rather than at HASS where I do not know what they are doing with my car. Bad experience with them on the dashboard noise for which I have sent the car to HASS 5 times, yet the problem persists. I am desperately looking for a good mechanic around East Delhi or Noida or Ghaziabad area. Can someone please help me with this search?
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