my palio's steering wheel problem

[payam]

1)i got the amaron battery from golden tyre and he checked with the company and sold me a one which is specially for palio.
2)i got all the parts from jay_vijay and checked the plugs they are excatly same as stock one which i had.
6&7)a bit more 116 and 118

[moralfibre]

Originally Posted by payam

1)i got the amaron battery from golden tyre and he checked with the company and sold me a one which is specially for palio.
2)i got all the parts from jay_vijay and checked the plugs they are excatly same as stock one which i had.
6&7)a bit more 116 and 118

Next time remember that Clutch and Brake oil reservoir for the Palio's is the same and takes the same spec oil. Don't pay him twice for the same job .

[payam]

So why jay_vijay guy didnt tell me about that and he gave me 2 oil(break and clutch)
the mechanic dont know about his job but his prices are fair,i paid him 800 bucks for all these job.
are you sure about break and clutch oil kiran??

[moralfibre]

Originally Posted by payam

So why jay_vijay guy didnt tell me about that and he gave me 2 oil(break and clutch)
the mechanic dont know about his job but his prices are fair,i paid him 800 bucks for all these job.
are you sure about break and clutch oil kiran??

I am 100% sure that the brake and clutch oil in the Palio are same (May be he gave you two for quantity) and they go in the same can. Actually the same can that is now mounted on your strut brace (White with yellow cap).

[TURBOSAM]

Originally Posted by moralfibre

Payam, you are wrong in your way of approach. I recommended you to go to Sameer and get your car checked and do some basic fixes but you did not handle it the right way. I had also given you an option to get the car fixed from a local garage which he recommended if you couldn't afford the labour costs and other expenses involved in getting your car fixed at an authorized dealership.
What you did here:
1) Got the car checked from an authorized dealership under supervision of a technical guy who knows what he is doing for a few years and is very well experienced at that.
2) He checked your car religiously from the head lamp to the tail lamp and gave you various options in repairing, replacing, fixing it under various budget constraints. He handed over the paper to you and you went to a local garage with it to fix it.
3) Now I know the local garage you went to and his technical abilities to handle modern day cars. (Atleast I can analyse it when he changes a strut mount for fixing a steering jam problem).
4) On top of it you openly claim that " tryed this but they said the rack has to be changed without having a look at it 17k+5k labour." which is absolutely wrong.
5) Even if your steering is smoother than before I would still say your rack is jacked and you can take your own decisions with all due respect to your car. But rest assured I wouldn't advise or request people I know to check your car F.O.C. you are open to advises from others and can take help from them ok?

Enjoy your drives.

thanks a lot kiran . ill keep this in mind ,and improve from the next time ..thanks again

[TURBOSAM]

following jobs were required on his car when it was reported to me 1>sparkplug replacement
2>air filter cleening
3>oil filter change
4>powersteering oil flushing and replacement with fresh one
5>brake and clutch system flushing with fresh oil
6>brake pads cleen/replace
7>brake liners cleening
8>tappete coner gasket +o ring replacement
9>timing belt replacement along with tensioner bearing
10>coolent flushing -rep with new one
11>wheel alignment
12>wheel balancing
13>fr wiper blades replacement
14>interior cleening
15>both headlight assemblies replace
16>throttle body overhauling
17>injectors cleening
18>wiper motoin controller replacement
19>door checker replacement
20>fr shock absorbers oh and strut change if req
21>both lower arms replacement
22>rack replacement+pump and lines flushing
23>both strut pads replacement
24>strut dust covers replacement
25>roof lamp repair/replace+wiring check
26>mirror
27>clutch plate+pressure plate+clutch release bearing replacement
the labour estimation was rs 5480 for all these things .
does anyone have any say about the labour charges!!
<thankfully i had a carbon copy of the quatation!>


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[moralfibre]

Thanks Sameer and lets just get over this now. Payam should know what is right for him and he is good to go for now. Payam whenever possible get the following jobs done:

First and foremost get your brakes fixed because they are absolutely DEAD.
Then get the following jobs done:

Tappet corner gasket + O ring replacement.
Timing belt replacement along with tensioner bearing.
Throttle body overhauling
Injectors cleaning

This should get the engine in perfect running state. Then you can look at the suspension.

[payam]

Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

1>sparkplug replacement
2>air filter cleening
3>oil filter change
4>powersteering oil flushing and replacement with fresh one
5>brake and clutch system flushing with fresh oil
6>brake pads cleen/replace
7>brake liners cleening
9>timing belt replacement along with tensioner bearing
10>coolent flushing -rep with new one
11>wheel alignment
12>wheel balancing
13>fr wiper blades replacement
14>interior cleening
15>both headlight assemblies replace
17>injectors cleening
25>roof lamp repair/replace+wiring check
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all the above job are done.for the rest looking for paisa and MF's free time.

[moralfibre]

Originally Posted by payam

all the above job are done.for the rest looking for paisa and MF's free time.

Did you get the timing belt and tensioner replaced?
Injectors cleaned?

I am sure the mech cannot do this because it requires special tools which the mech doesn't have.

[payam]

yes i did change the timing belt and its bearing,forgot to tell you around 2 weeks ago.
the thing is car is running fine and as you saw it did 160kmph in pune_bombai express and you said it can go faster.after changinf all these part and cleaning the filter it become better than the day i bought it.the only problem is the PS which i think is the rack and nothing else.
have you observed anything else kiran?ah and yes the injector is cleaned as well.

[TURBOSAM]

yes
there is a bearing ,fixed in a metal base then rubber moulded in another metal housing .
the bearing holds the strut and the outer metal bracket is used for mounting the strut assembly on the apron.
this arrangement smoothens out the lateral and torsional loads on the strut+ apron mount
the strut movement is not hampered by this arrangement . just check the three dimensional movement at the strut top when u turn the steering ... its amazing ..
yes . fiat is really good when it comes to engg- - all thanks to lancia!

Originally Posted by shrivz

There is a bearing on the strut mout!!!

This is news to me!!

Hats off to Fiat for making such an engineering marvel!

EDIT: @MF: you beat me to it..

[payam]

just got my car overhauled from B.U,amazing.i will post the result in another thread.
and to inform th rack has leakage and that is why.
now the only thing is left in my car is rack,wait for some money to get it done too.
B.U rocks.