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Old 24th September 2007, 17:27   #31
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Though they need techies to be tampered with, disconnecting them is a simple DIY job. They usually take electrical pickup. So you just need to fing the right socket and disconnect it when needed. I had to resort to this method when i was stuck with a job that needed lot of travelling while my bike, PULSAR DIGITAL SPEEDO, was due to be serviced, I had just 20/25 kms left in the odo before it had to be serviced, and my expected running before I could even think of servicing the bike was around 190 KM.
Would be kind enough to explain more ?
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I don't agree on this . I have seen many vehicles where the speedo meter needle shakes even though they haven't tampered the odo.
This happens coz of the cable being short or something else to with the cable.
Heck when i changed my pulsar's speedo cable , now my speedo meter needle shakes ( I haven't tempered my odo)

true - in my car, speedo needle shakes at low speeds and then firms up as speed builds up
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true - in my car, speedo needle shakes at low speeds and then firms up as speed builds up
speedo can shale cos of worn out cables as well as pinions.
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Old 30th December 2009, 15:07   #34
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I was in India in October/November and had use of a Sumo Grande. I knew the car had been used for taxi type service but it only had 30,000KM on the clock. The driver told me that there was a place in a local city where they went to get the mileage clocked back every now and then. His reason for doing this was to keep the vehicle within the limits for the Tata warranty. He told me the car had actually done close to 150,000KM in just over a year.

He said he kept a note of the actual mileage and got the oil services done accordingly and also full dealer services in accordance with his dodgy mileage. I was surprised that evidence of this high mileage was not very visible, the car was clean inside and out and no evident wear on things like the steering wheel. Ride was ok and no broken interior which you would expect from a vehicle plying its trade in rural India.

So if buying a used vehicle then dont fall for the usual "mileage is correct...digital computer recorder ..." blurb the seller will give you. Looks like there are plenty of techs who have the equipment and who will clock back these lcd type speedos in India.

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There is a guy in Coimbatore who is a specialist in this line. He usually rotates for Volvos owned by tour operators. He says he can just about rotate any car.

Had heard stuff that the old analogue meters can be turned using a magnet. Any truth in this?

By the way, I think the service guys can make out if a meter has been tampered with. At least the tyres will be a sure tell tale and other things.
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I've seen old analog meters in bikes being turnable by hand. Don't see why the same for cars would be any different.

And no tell tale signs IMO!
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How can the service guy see that the meter has been tampered with? As long as the mileage it shows now is more than that it had for the last service, I dont think delaer can find anything. Ofcourse, over worn tyres, worn out clutch and brake pedals, gear lever etc, may give away the actual usage of a car.
However, I dont think there is any way that you can acutally find out if the odo has been tampered with or not.
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Some threads of interest :

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-tampered.html (Odometer Reading: How to tell if it has been tampered with?)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-odometer.html (Is it possible to tamper digital odometer ?)
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Yes its a very simple procedure done bu guys who repair meters. Have seen it being done in my presence and no one can make out unless and until the pcb is opened. The difference will be there in the soldering.

What they do is replace the chip that stores the odo reading by another one with the reading desired. This is done by writing a blank chip hooked up to a chip burner and a laptop. They charge about 1500 in Mumbai and takes approx 25-30 mins.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post946122 (Is it possible to tamper digital odometer ?)
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If this is the present state of affairs, then all I can say that I guess nothing is as it seems (including humans)
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An old friend of my mine from my rallying days runs a meter repair shop who claims that it's very easy to re-set electronic meters than the old analogue meters, he charges Rs.500-600 for every reset (he re-sets, but you can have any reading you want, it is a less than 5 minute job, ofcourse getting a parking place in russell market in less than 15minutes is anybody's guess), he is doing very well & operates from a shop near Russel market, Shivajinagar, Bangalore.
BUT, more than reducing your speedometer reading, he can fit a device in your vehicle which increases the reading & the fun is you can change it as and when you please, that is he fits a sensor & gives you a remote control(sort of remote which you get for your car ICE) & whenever you press it your readings increase.
this setup really helps tour/taxi operators to jack up their meter readings.
God knows where this world is going land up
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Consider buying a 'Tru-value' from Maruti, if you are looking at Maruti vehicles. At least they come with a warranty.
True Value don't bother to verify the milege themselves when buying. Why will they be bothered what they sell you.
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I've seen old analog meters in bikes being turnable by hand. Don't see why the same for cars would be any different.

And no tell tale signs IMO!
It's not by hand. You have to remove the blades of a table fan and connect the cable to it.
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An old friend of my mine from my rallying days runs a meter repair shop who claims that it's very easy to re-set electronic meters than the old analogue meters, the fun is you can change it as and when you please, that is he fits a sensor & gives you a remote control(sort of remote which you get for your car ICE) & whenever you press it your readings increase
Shouldn't this friend of yours be hauled up by the cops?
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Shouldn't this friend of yours be hauled up by the cops?
Why?!! He pays them weekly!
That is how it is everywhere for all illegal activities!
Cops are a party to them ALL!
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Cops are a party to them ALL!


Then perhaps the Lokayukta is the only way forward
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