What's your technique while driving uphill ?? - Page 3 - Team-BHP

Surprise · 21st September 2007, 19:09

Combination of both.

On very tight situation or getting behind the wheels for the first time on a different model car, hand brakes helps better. If I need to stop for longer duration (say more than 20 secs), no choice, only handbrakes

porsche_fan · 21st September 2007, 19:48

Yup, me too.....i use both depending on the difficulty and the distance between me and the guy behind me! I use the handbrake when its a difficult slope and bumper to bumper traffic and 'paddling' otherwise...

Dunno which is better. As long as you 'paddle' without half clutching too much i guess its ok.....

kphilip · 21st September 2007, 20:40

Using hand brakes are the best while climbing a slope..But if ur car dont have one?, then paddling will be the best. This is what i do while stopping infront of a traffic signal on slope in my jeep,
I used to put the main brakes first with my right leg, then while moving it i'll press the clutch,put the first gear and will release the brakes with half clutch.It needs a little skill to move it without the jeep goin back..

anupmathur · 21st September 2007, 20:53

Half clutching will send your clutch to it's maker very fast.
So please be prudent in using any technique of this kind.
Though there are times when there is no other option.

gd1418 · 22nd September 2007, 10:26

Padlding is harmful to clutch, brakes and the engine in that order. All modern cars are equipped with good handbrakes. Handbrakes should be used to negotiate uphill driving conditions..

lambuhere1 · 24th September 2007, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutdcrap

Here is what I do: Apply the handbrake, then put the car in gear and rev a bit. When I feel a slight push indicating that the car would not slide backwards, I release the handbrake and carry on.

I will explore this option. Never tried it. One question here : Will the clutch be released FULLY when you engage the gear or wat ?

By the way, Can anyone tell me the approx rpm that the SWIFT P has to be rev to get the necessary momemtum ?

wanderernomad · 24th September 2007, 12:00

I use both the techniques depending upon the road slope and the driving conditions. If I am stopping for more than a minute i switch off and use the hand brake otherwise its just the usual foot brake and then pick up from there. I resort to half clutch only if the road is slushy or if there is snow as I feel the half clutch lets you inch up without too much wheel slippage.

gnanek · 24th September 2007, 12:23

Combination of both.

I deepends on the time.. for how long u need to wait.. If I need to stop for longer duration (say more than 15-20 secs), no choice, only handbrakes. If not paddling idea looks better and works easy for me..

sumitkalindi · 24th September 2007, 12:53

If I have to stop for long hand brake/ switch off engine slot in 1st gear. to move forward first go to neutral start engine, press brake release hand brake slot into 1 paddle fast. Never used half clutch. If for short period, then stop, to move paddle no half clutch.

kaynmantis · 24th September 2007, 16:12

I started learning driving in hilly region. One of the first thing one learns to master is controlling clutch, brakes & gas pedals. In time, stop & go in slopes becomes as easy as stop & go in plain. One of the reason I don't use handbrakes is because, I usually had to turn cars in tight confinement in slopes. Eventually it becomes a habit.

The technique is to keep the brakes depressed, press the gas gently with your heel and gently realease the chutch till you feel the drive bite (rpm will fall slightly). Now release brakes & clutch and more gas. Takes some practice, thats all. Initially it requires focus. In time its easy as changing gears while driving. Using handbrakes while turning cars is too cumbersome. The havier the car, the more skill required.

While going uphill, using handbrakes depends on how long you have to wait. Oh! yes, most old cars hardly has working handbrakes so it means learning how to control all three pedals in one smooth flow.

cutdcrap · 24th September 2007, 18:54

[quote=lambuhere1;573246]I will explore this option. Never tried it. One question here : Will the clutch be released FULLY when you engage the gear or wat ?

No no. If you leave the clutch when engaged in gear with hand brakes applied, the car will stall.

Clutch would be released partially in this case. As soon as you feel the slight push, disengage the brake and release your clutch to carry on driving normally.

This is better IMO since the car will start pulling from a standstill and not when it is sliding backwards, in which case the engine will have to revv more to pull it.

gd1418 · 25th September 2007, 13:38

Sorry for being off-topic. But this is intriguing. Cutdcrap: What are the two items from Samsung? Never knew that Samsung were into automobiles as well.

I for one always associated Bordeaux with some fine French wine.

[quote=cutdcrap;573928]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambuhere1

I will explore this option. Never tried it. One question here : Will the clutch be released FULLY when you engage the gear or wat ?

No no. If you leave the clutch when engaged in gear with hand brakes applied, the car will stall.

Clutch would be released partially in this case. As soon as you feel the slight push, disengage the brake and release your clutch to carry on driving normally.

This is better IMO since the car will start pulling from a standstill and not when it is sliding backwards, in which case the engine will have to revv more to pull it.

sqwall · 25th September 2007, 14:08

Can someone please explain the handbrake technique properly.

Under what situation should it be used?
Wont the tyres get damaged if we try to accelerate with the handbrake on ?
Please excuse me if you find these questions silly :-)

Thad E Ginathom · 25th September 2007, 16:21

Hill start

Handbrake should be on.
Depress clutch pedal
Pull up handbrake and depress ratchet button to release, but keep pulled up.
Give acceleration (how much depends on slope; experience only is the teacher)
Bring clutch pedal up to clutch 'biting point'
You will see the front of the car rise slightly.
at the same time: Release brake fully; release clutch pedal fully but gently; adjust gas as necessary.

--- Car moves off nicely

If the engine stalls at point 6, you should have given more gas: try again.

Learn to 'ride the clutch', so that you know where that biting point is and you can control the car in the event of handbrake failure. Understand that using it to keep the car stationery on a hill, although you should be able to do so, will much reduce the life of your clutch. Use it for very short pauses at junctions, maybe.

I don't know what you guys men by 'paddling' --- that's what I do when I have to get out of the car in a few inches of water

Do you mean heal&toe --- operating brake pedal with heal, and accelerator with toe? That is an advanced technique to do exactly the same as above, but witout using handbrake. Or shifting the foot from the brake to the accelerator damned quick? Can work well on lesser gradients.

chetanhanda · 25th September 2007, 20:29

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Originally Posted by sqwall

Wont the tyres get damaged if we try to accelerate with the handbrake on ?

Tyres dont wear out with the handbrake, its your rear brakes drum/disc which have to fight against the torque of the engine. The tyres dont get affected at all.
I never use handbrake unless I have to wait something like 10 minutes..
I just release the clutch completely and keep minimum throttle, for stopping I push the entire clutch down and keep foot on brake.
Half clutch screws up your clutch badly...

21st September 2007, 19:48	#32 (permalink)
porsche_fan BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Epinal,France Posts: 78	Yup, me too.....i use both depending on the difficulty and the distance between me and the guy behind me! I use the handbrake when its a difficult slope and bumper to bumper traffic and 'paddling' otherwise... Dunno which is better. As long as you 'paddle' without half clutching too much i guess its ok..... __________________ '78 911 Turbo(930) 3.3L, 300BHP,4 Gears and a whole lotta sideways fun!

21st September 2007, 20:40	#33 (permalink)
kphilip BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cochin Posts: 206	Using hand brakes are the best while climbing a slope..But if ur car dont have one?, then paddling will be the best. This is what i do while stopping infront of a traffic signal on slope in my jeep, I used to put the main brakes first with my right leg, then while moving it i'll press the clutch,put the first gear and will release the brakes with half clutch.It needs a little skill to move it without the jeep goin back.. __________________ They don’t repair road roads really, just change road pits location in order to confuse drivers and make them forget about pits.

22nd September 2007, 10:26	#35 (permalink)
gd1418 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	Padlding is harmful to clutch, brakes and the engine in that order. All modern cars are equipped with good handbrakes. Handbrakes should be used to negotiate uphill driving conditions.. __________________ Royal Enfield Bullet 1962 All Black 1998 Safari 4x4 All Black 2004 Scorpio GLx

24th September 2007, 12:00	#37 (permalink)
wanderernomad BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 338 View My Garage	I use both the techniques depending upon the road slope and the driving conditions. If I am stopping for more than a minute i switch off and use the hand brake otherwise its just the usual foot brake and then pick up from there. I resort to half clutch only if the road is slushy or if there is snow as I feel the half clutch lets you inch up without too much wheel slippage. __________________ Let it go...after all you live but twice.

24th September 2007, 12:23	#38 (permalink)
gnanek Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 9	Combination of both. I deepends on the time.. for how long u need to wait.. If I need to stop for longer duration (say more than 15-20 secs), no choice, only handbrakes. If not paddling idea looks better and works easy for me.. __________________ "Everybody makes mistakes; that's why they put erasers on pencils"

21st September 2007, 19:09	#31 (permalink)
Surprise Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,299	Combination of both. On very tight situation or getting behind the wheels for the first time on a different model car, hand brakes helps better. If I need to stop for longer duration (say more than 20 secs), no choice, only handbrakes

21st September 2007, 20:53	#34 (permalink)
anupmathur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,280	Half clutching will send your clutch to it's maker very fast. So please be prudent in using any technique of this kind. Though there are times when there is no other option.

24th September 2007, 12:53	#39 (permalink)
sumitkalindi BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Shillong Posts: 276	If I have to stop for long hand brake/ switch off engine slot in 1st gear. to move forward first go to neutral start engine, press brake release hand brake slot into 1 paddle fast. Never used half clutch. If for short period, then stop, to move paddle no half clutch.

24th September 2007, 16:12	#40 (permalink)
kaynmantis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 47	I started learning driving in hilly region. One of the first thing one learns to master is controlling clutch, brakes & gas pedals. In time, stop & go in slopes becomes as easy as stop & go in plain. One of the reason I don't use handbrakes is because, I usually had to turn cars in tight confinement in slopes. Eventually it becomes a habit. The technique is to keep the brakes depressed, press the gas gently with your heel and gently realease the chutch till you feel the drive bite (rpm will fall slightly). Now release brakes & clutch and more gas. Takes some practice, thats all. Initially it requires focus. In time its easy as changing gears while driving. Using handbrakes while turning cars is too cumbersome. The havier the car, the more skill required. While going uphill, using handbrakes depends on how long you have to wait. Oh! yes, most old cars hardly has working handbrakes so it means learning how to control all three pedals in one smooth flow.

24th September 2007, 18:54	#41 (permalink)
cutdcrap BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 76	[quote=lambuhere1;573246]I will explore this option. Never tried it. One question here : Will the clutch be released FULLY when you engage the gear or wat ? No no. If you leave the clutch when engaged in gear with hand brakes applied, the car will stall. Clutch would be released partially in this case. As soon as you feel the slight push, disengage the brake and release your clutch to carry on driving normally. This is better IMO since the car will start pulling from a standstill and not when it is sliding backwards, in which case the engine will have to revv more to pull it. __________________ Bajaj Pulsar 150 DTSi 2003 Samsung Bordeaux LA26R71B Esteem Lxi 2007 Samsung Duo

25th September 2007, 14:08	#43 (permalink)
sqwall BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 54	Can someone please explain the handbrake technique properly. Under what situation should it be used? Wont the tyres get damaged if we try to accelerate with the handbrake on ? Please excuse me if you find these questions silly :-)

25th September 2007, 16:21	#44 (permalink)
Thad E Ginathom BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 976	Hill start Handbrake should be on. Depress clutch pedal Pull up handbrake and depress ratchet button to release, but keep pulled up. Give acceleration (how much depends on slope; experience only is the teacher) Bring clutch pedal up to clutch 'biting point' You will see the front of the car rise slightly. at the same time: Release brake fully; release clutch pedal fully but gently; adjust gas as necessary. --- Car moves off nicely If the engine stalls at point 6, you should have given more gas: try again. Learn to 'ride the clutch', so that you know where that biting point is and you can control the car in the event of handbrake failure. Understand that using it to keep the car stationery on a hill, although you should be able to do so, will much reduce the life of your clutch. Use it for very short pauses at junctions, maybe. I don't know what you guys men by 'paddling' --- that's what I do when I have to get out of the car in a few inches of water Do you mean heal&toe --- operating brake pedal with heal, and accelerator with toe? That is an advanced technique to do exactly the same as above, but witout using handbrake. Or shifting the foot from the brake to the accelerator damned quick? Can work well on lesser gradients.

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