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Old 3rd October 2007, 16:42   #1
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Question Palio 1.6 gear oil seal query

I had been recently to service center for a free check up camp for Palio. I was observing oil leak for about a month and wanted it to be checked. I had shown the car to a local mechanic and he attributed that to engine oil leak and told me that some seal was broken. Nothing serious and certainly not to worry about it in short term. However, he asked me to fix this in the next service.
Mechanic at the service center confirmed that this was not a engine oil leak but gear oil leak. He warned me not use the car till this is fixed. I am waiting for 3 weeks now for the gear oil seal which costs just 99 bucks.
Just wanted to know, how can a gear oil seal be broken/damaged so soon. Any stone hit could cause this. Concorde promised me that this would be covered in the warranty. Should I get the seal outside and ask Concorde to fix this ASAP?

My car has done 13.5 k kms and is year old. About 6 months back, clutch were replaced as they were completely gone. apart form this no issues with the car.
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About 6 months back, clutch were replaced
could be the reason for the oil leakage.the seal might not have been aligned while fitting the crankcase back and the seal could have been broken due to oil pressure.
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My car has done 13.5 k kms and is year old. About 6 months back, clutch were replaced as they were completely gone. apart form this no issues with the car.
Clutch going within 6 months is very big issue. I thought clutches were
supposed to last much much longer than this? Is this common with
Palios. Another friend of mine with a Palio (1.3 not 1.6) had a breakdown
because of the clutch plates & had to replace it. This was less than 7000 kns,
IIRC.
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Clutch going within 6 months is very big issue. I thought clutches were
supposed to last much much longer than this? Is this common with
Palios. Another friend of mine with a Palio (1.3 not 1.6) had a breakdown
because of the clutch plates & had to replace it. This was less than 7000 kns,
IIRC.
I agree 10k is not the good time to loose a clutch. But I have seen some palios being affected with this problem. Typically, within 6 months of purchase. Now, not sure what could be the reason.
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Hi
I also underwent through almost the same problem. I bought PETRA 1.6 ELX in June 2006; my cltutch failed by Dec06. Got it checked; There was a leaking oil seal between gear box and clutcg housing leaking oil to clutch plate. This led to premature failure of cltch plate. Did you check up your clutch plate when you got it replaced? was there traces of oil?

Clutch plate and gear box oil seal was replaced under warantee.
You may follow up with FIAT Service.

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Oil seals are made of rubber and quality inconsistencies can make the compound go bad very fast.
When I rebuilt my sumo's engine, Its oil was leaking from day one. After about a week, i took it back to the engine-er and found that the sales had gone bad. I replaced them for the peanuts they cost.

Its quite normal. Nothing to worry.Just get the seals changed.
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Guess, I am lucky. My car's clutch is still going strong after 40k kms [:-)]
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My lancer had a clutch seal leak after flushing the engine for the first time ever.

Don't worry seals can fail anytime on any car of any make....Its not a major issue with quality of the car, usually a rare occurence though.

Suggest you buy a good quality seal from outside,ensure that you do have a good sealent + time to let the seal set in pref overnight in the garage.
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Thanks Guys.

Collected the car today from service. They finally found out that they need to remove the complete gear mechanism to fix the seal and this may require more parts which they do not have. So, much for waiting for three weeks.

They have ordered for parts and promised to call me back when the parts arrive. I don't know when the Fiat would sort out the spares issue. Meanwhile, i asked them if it is okay to drive the car and they said yes. Let's see what happens next. Will keep u updated.
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What is the symptom of a gear oil seal problem? My car seems to jump once in a while while i am releasing the clutch. I dont see any leakage under or inside. ANy ideas on what i need to do.
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My '97 800's transmission case has oil stains on it.Is this a seal problem?if so any idea what it might cost to replace including labor.
Will driving with a busted seal cause any major problem?
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