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Old 22nd October 2007, 13:26   #1
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Default Safari 2.2 Ad - Why/how is the front wheel locked?

The latest Safari 2.2 ad has the safari doing a skier. In this i noticed that the front wheels are locked up and stay frozen while the rear is spinning while the car is in mid-air. Of course all wheels start rolling when the SUV lands.
I wonder why the front wheels appear locked in mid air. Any opinions?
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Old 22nd October 2007, 13:37   #2
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You're right, you have an Ape avatar but eyes of an eagle . The stuntmasters can explain this, I am no expert.



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The latest Safari 2.2 ad has the safari doing a skier. In this i noticed that the front wheels are locked up and stay frozen while the rear is spinning while the car is in mid-air. Of course all wheels start rolling when the SUV lands.
I wonder why the front wheels appear locked in mid air. Any opinions?
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Ha ha ha. Man. when the car touches the ground there is a millisecond when it does not move and obviously for that time, front wheel wont move and appear to be locked.

But that does not mean that they are locked....

In fact, if the wheels are locked, the car would flip over
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Yes, I notice that. My guess is the stuntman was left-foot-braking and accelerating simultaneously during the leap... probably some sort of skid control. Rally drivers do this routinely.

Moreover, I wonder how many Safaris they have used in the ad (I am pretty sure they wouldnt have finished the shot in one take and no vehicle would last more than one jump!)
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The front wheel is locked during the jump. i observed the same as well.
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rajismine, if u see the video, u'll notice that the wheels are locked throughout the flight! As said earlier, they seem to be locked! beautiful ad though, like all the safari ads!
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Old 22nd October 2007, 14:04   #7
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Yes they do "SEEM" to be locked. But there is nothing that may conform this.

The rear wheels are generally free and as it is front wheel driven, they are little heavier to roll and that may be the reason for this...

So, we cannot say for sure that they were locked...
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The rear wheels are generally free and as it is front wheel driven, they are little heavier to roll and that may be the reason for this...
Safari and Front wheel driven? What ?
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I dont trust videos.
for all I care, some digital magic took place.

moral question..am I cheating on my Wagon R by lusting on the Safari so much.
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Yup front wheels don't appear to be moving. Maybe some special effects scene that.
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Should be special effects...can a Safari really do such a hard landing?
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Is the DICOR 2.2 VTT a front wheel drive? Then how are they generating such a torque in a front wheel system?

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Yes they do "SEEM" to be locked. But there is nothing that may conform this.

The rear wheels are generally free and as it is front wheel driven, they are little heavier to roll and that may be the reason for this...

So, we cannot say for sure that they were locked...
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Safari's are rear wheel drives, its a typo by rajeev.

So lets look at this situation,

- Safari is driven fast to hit a ramp for this flight
- Its a 2 ton vehicle so it has to be really fast/ ramp has to be at proper incline.
- Safari hits the ramp, takes the flight. Rear wheels have power, front wheels dont are are ona free spin.

They have not captured the flight from the ramp, they have captured flight from the max height it reached till touchdown and then there's another shot.

The front wheels will stop due to their own weight/slight touching of disc brakes etc after their free spin, so this could be one theory for it.

Now this is what happenned to the earlier safari jump ads:

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In the ad where the safari is jumping the chasis broke on impact of landing. It was driven by vikram mathias.

that was the safari petrol ad...not the dicor.
the safari petrol exi had a twisted chassis after the jump, done for the ad
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I would hazard a guess that the rear wheels are being driven by the engine during the flight, and hence spin, while the front wheels are free, but stop due to friction (!).

I love the background music/tune to this ad - even better than the earlier Requiem for a Dream track.
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Thanks Dadu for correcting. It was indeed a typo. And exactly as you said, its because of more weight that the tyres are not moving. And Tyres not moving does not mean they are locked. if it so, i would rather say that the driver applied breaks he he he. now lets ask that driver why did he do so. And then I am sure that Venkatesh.C has shown so much curiosity in this that he would like to try this on his Safari...
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