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Old 19th October 2010, 21:48   #136
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Do we have anyone on the forum who has a working setup of HID with Projectors on an Accent..

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Old 20th October 2010, 06:14   #137
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totally depends on budget ! two ways
1) get the entire headlamp assembly for i10 that have projectors fitted and hid . more expensive . more convenient .
I'm gonna stay away for while.

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2) retro fit projectors in your existing headlamps . you can choose from wide variety of projectors like from Hella / other aftermarket makers and can also use branded HID kits like philips / osram/ hella . cheapest ones with hid can be retrofitted for under rs 6600 while good quality projectors with good output and chinese hid kit will cost approx 8000-8500 .
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Hi Nobody.

Consider that I'm going to use Hella Projectors with Philips HID Kits. Do you comment on this combination. Have someone you know (SOMEBODY )any your friends used this setup for any car?


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always try to test the projectors output on road as they may look very good with angel eyes and etc but if they cant throw good light on road it serves no purpose .
+1to what sarkar said
Thanks mate for this information.

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@camon:If retrofitting/buying projector headlamps make sure its RHD type. If you end up with the wrong type it can make life harder for you and for the oncoming traffic. And remember to get projector with good quality optics from known or certified manufacturers.
Hi Sankar,

May I know what is meant RHD type.
And I Hope projectors from Hella should be from good quality. Even I heard and read many guys installing it in their car.

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Old 20th October 2010, 08:22   #138
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May I know what is meant RHD type.
And I Hope projectors from Hella should be from good quality. Even I heard and read many guys installing it in their car.

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RHD is Right Hand Drive.
If you're sourcing projector retrofit kits from Left Hand Drive (LHD) countries you will get LHD kits. The beam cut off pattern for RHD and LHD is different, its like \__ and __/ for RHD and LHD respectively. You have to ask the seller if they have RHD projector or if they can get you one.
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Old 20th October 2010, 10:34   #139
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RHD is Right Hand Drive.
If you're sourcing projector retrofit kits from Left Hand Drive (LHD) countries you will get LHD kits. The beam cut off pattern for RHD and LHD is different, its like \__ and __/ for RHD and LHD respectively. You have to ask the seller if they have RHD projector or if they can get you one.

Very very valid point that every one pays little care on this tip. There are accessory shops selling after market retro fit projectors, but none of them were clearly mentioned that which meant for what When I raised the same question, they were looking at me like aliens and consoling me by stating that it can be used for both. I dont want to educate them at my expense nor want to argue on this so I just gave up the idea of convincing them what funda is RHD/LHD.

I've got a pair of bi xenon projectors from HK last year and even that too not having anything stated.
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Guys,

One ballast of HID kit is not working so is it possible to get only ballast?

If yes from where pls?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 3rd November 2010, 14:15   #141
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With refer to below post herewith find photo of the ballast.

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One ballast of HID kit is not working so is it possible to get only ballast?

If yes from where pls?

Thanks in advance.
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With refer to below post herewith find photo of the ballast.
@Mugen_Power, getting hella spare ballast is not that easy, contact BMW/Merc *** for this.

If you can bring it from US try Amazon for a cheaper option as carry-onn-baggage.

Here's the link:
Amazon.com: Hella/Philips HID XENON Replacement ballast for D2S D2R LVQ212 Gen3: Automotive: Reviews, Prices & more

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As a last resort, I would say there's nothing wrong in trying other 35W ballasts if you can alter the sockets with the old one.

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@Mugen_Power, getting hella spare ballast is not that easy, contact BMW/Merc *** for this.

If you can bring it from US try Amazon for a cheaper option as carry-onn-baggage.

Here's the link:
Amazon.com: Hella/Philips HID XENON Replacement ballast for D2S D2R LVQ212 Gen3: Automotive: Reviews, Prices & more

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As a last resort, I would say there's nothing wrong in trying other 35W ballasts if you can alter the sockets with the old one.
Thanks for your above reply Sajjt.

I do not have sockets as per above photo. It is as per below photo.
HIDs are bought before 4 years back and one Ballast went kaput and couldn't find at that time.

BTW are your on XBHP also?
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Thanks for your above reply Sajjt.

I do not have sockets as per above photo. It is as per below photo.
HIDs are bought before 4 years back and one Ballast went kaput and couldn't find at that time.

BTW are your on XBHP also?
You can try the normal ballasts too, Get help from an auto electrician to mod the sockets by soldering and make it weather proof by applying RTV sealant on the joints.

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You can try the normal ballasts too, Get help from an auto electrician to mod the sockets by soldering and make it weather proof by applying RTV sealant on the joints.

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So it means 35W Philips Ballast will work.?
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I have a Punto 1.3 Multijet and I also wanted to do modifications like projector headlamp with white LED strip like in AUDI. What would be the cost and I heard from FIAT personal that ordinary HID's cant be fitted due to technical issues afterwards. Can anyone advise on this??
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So it means 35W Philips Ballast will work.?
Definitely, if you can alter the sockets to fit into the existing bulb.
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Team,

A few questions :

1 - Can HID lamps be used in cars that come with Halogen Bulbs as OE
2- If Yes,can they be used inside the OE reflectors or does this OE set up need mods?
3- We all know that bulbs need to be replaced ,what about HID kits?
4- Do High and Low beams work the same way as in OE bulbs?
5- Which ones to go for for highway use ? I know Philips has 6000K in India ..3000k .... ( what do these mean ? )
6- I have read about HID needing lesser power ,but I read about some of us having battery problems after HIDs.

If there isnt any thread already ,how about making this the HID Basics thread?

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Old 30th July 2011, 17:38   #149
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Satya I think I can help here


1 - Can HID lamps be used in cars that come with Halogen Bulbs as OE

- Yes.

2- If Yes,can they be used inside the OE reflectors or does this OE set up need mods?

- No mods are required, it's a straight plug and play, but may require adjustment of beam.

3- We all know that bulbs need to be replaced ,what about HID kits?

- HID kits have multiple parts, mainly comprising of bulb and Ballast+Igniter. They have much longer running life, but yes, any one of them can replaced separately if the need arises.

4- Do High and Low beams work the same way as in OE bulbs?

- In H4 bulbs where Hi/Lo are in a single bulb, an H4 HID shifts the single arc up/down or back and fro for a similar light throw.

5- Which ones to go for for highway use ? I know Philips has 6000K in India ..3000k .... ( what do these mean ? )

- These are colour temperature. The lower the value the yeloower the colour of light. As a rule of thumb 4200K give the best visibility, and anything above 6000K is too blue to be practical. A higher Kelvin mean more strain from oncoming traffic.

6- I have read about HID needing lesser power ,but I read about some of us having battery problems after HIDs.

- HID comes in 35W and 55W. They bound to have lesser power requirements, but with a weak battery, the inital current draw requirement can pose a problem.

Hope this helps
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I think Rahul got all the answers for you. Since you are planning to go for HIDs in your reflector headlights, you will need to align it properly. A lot of scattering will be there since you are using reflector type of headlights. HIDs are basically meant to be used with projectors. Get the alignment done properly by some experienced installer.

4300k HIDs are the best and they offer the best visibility range. 3000k will be yellow in color (like fog lights). 4300k HIDs will be yellow with a tinge of white light.

Most shops offer HID kits and no replacement bulbs. But nowadays they have started offering replacement HIDs. If you dont find them here, go online and get them. Pretty reasonable options.

High/low beam works differently here. The arc pushes a metal sheet. The light will be instant since you dont have any filaments.

HID's will last longer. I have been using it for more than 1.5 years now.
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