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Old 26th May 2010, 17:17   #91
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I use Autogauge 4300k in my projectors(Single bulbs). I got it for around 7.5k
You can check my thread which has a demo video showing it's output.
4300k is the best HIDs with max output when compared to the others.
Thanks naveen. Your head lights look great - especially the CFL rings will be cool during evening drives.

Do you know of any autogaugage dealer in Bangalore? Getting Philips 4300K H1 kit seems impossible here.

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Thanks naveen. Your head lights look great - especially the CFL rings will be cool during evening drives.

Do you know of any autogaugage dealer in Bangalore? Getting Philips 4300K H1 kit seems impossible here.

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Thanks kishore..
Am not sure about the dealers, but this should be pretty common.. I think you can search JC road or try "Sprocket". I remember seeing this in Koramangala next to China pearl. Looks like a good shop.

Then opp.Lifestyle near Garuda Mall. My bro got the alloys for his car there.
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Hi all,
I would like an advice on the SX4 ZXi headlamps.
The factory fitted lights are quite pathetic.
When I inquired with the dealer(s) here in Bangalore all of them say that they have to comply with RTO norms of 45/55 W (I don't remember exactly the wattage) and hence they cannot help in fitting with some better bulbs viz. xenon, HID (please pardon my ignorance. I am not very technically adept at car)
When I queried about whether I can go and get it fitted on my own from somewhere else, they said (surprisingly all 3 dealers whom I contacted) that the warranty will be lost completely. That's OK if it is just for bulbs and the associated wiring , but what surprised me was that , the entire wiring for all the other units in the car will be void.
Is this the case.
One of my friends who has Honda City and Civic said Honda guys didn't have any qualms in fitting HID on his Civic. On top of that he got warranty too.
When I drive in the night all the cars except mine and few others who have desi Maruti has good,nice headlamps.
Few questions
(1) If wiring for bulb is changes, does the warranty automatically expire for all other units
(2) Does the RTO rule apply only to Maruti? How come Honda, Ford, Linea and other "phoren brand" cars can fit whatever they want?

If I had Rs.2 lacs more last year would have gone for a City. I just love it.
But since I was cash strapped, I had to settle for SX4. Not that I dislike it. But when I see Honda zooming past, I turn green with envy :-)
Need to suppress certain desires, I think
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Old 27th May 2010, 10:38   #94
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Hi all,
I would like an advice on the SX4 ZXi headlamps.
The factory fitted lights are quite pathetic.
When I inquired with the dealer(s) here in Bangalore all of them say that they have to comply with RTO norms of 45/55 W (I don't remember exactly the wattage) and hence they cannot help in fitting with some better bulbs viz. xenon, HID (please pardon my ignorance. I am not very technically adept at car)
When I queried about whether I can go and get it fitted on my own from somewhere else, they said (surprisingly all 3 dealers whom I contacted) that the warranty will be lost completely. That's OK if it is just for bulbs and the associated wiring , but what surprised me was that , the entire wiring for all the other units in the car will be void.
Is this the case.
One of my friends who has Honda City and Civic said Honda guys didn't have any qualms in fitting HID on his Civic. On top of that he got warranty too.
When I drive in the night all the cars except mine and few others who have desi Maruti has good,nice headlamps.
Few questions
(1) If wiring for bulb is changes, does the warranty automatically expire for all other units
(2) Does the RTO rule apply only to Maruti? How come Honda, Ford, Linea and other "phoren brand" cars can fit whatever they want?

If I had Rs.2 lacs more last year would have gone for a City. I just love it.
But since I was cash strapped, I had to settle for SX4. Not that I dislike it. But when I see Honda zooming past, I turn green with envy :-)
Need to suppress certain desires, I think
Good question..!

Here are my views on this. First of all let me tell you that Maruthi guys dont like the idea of us modifying the cars. They find some reason and offend us.
I drive a Swift (Few mods) and my dad a Fiesta. The customer service is felt. now coming back to your query.

Company fitted bulbs are of 45/55W. Some options for better lighting:
1. Upgrade to 100/90W bulbs (Osram/Philips). I had used this before switching to HIDS. For this make sure you have proper Relay, ceramic holder. This wont void the car's warranty, but make sure you dont hamper the original wiring.
2. Upgrade to HID bulbs (Autogauge/Philips). This provides better visibility, long life, less heat. But this is not recommended for normal headlights as the light will get scattered rather than focusing on a particular point. (This is very common nowadays). Since you drive SX4, I dont think there are projector headlights available. HIDs work best with Projector headlights. This will help project the light beam onto a particular area rather than scattering all over.

You can check out my car and the demo video here
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...stom-modz.html (Swift Custom Modz)

RTO applies to all manufacturers but as I said Maruthi is strict on this.

So as of now, I would suggest you to go with 100/90W bulbs, maybe with a tinge of white beam for the blink factor. Make sure you use branded relays, holders etc.

Cheers..!
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Hi Naveen,
Thanks a ton for the quick reply and giving me 2 options.

Why do you suggest to go with the 1st option? Is it because the 2nd option require tweaks with the original wiring?

Do you think 1st option will be OK with dealers since it involves fitting of new relay and ceramic holder? (yes, as you mentioned original wiring should be intact)

Thanks in advance,
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Hi, This is what i heard from Pratham Motors Service Head - as long as original wiring is not cut or tampered, even if you install a xenon kit, your warranty will still be valid. Please check once before you take a decision. I myself have been running a Philips 6000 K HID kit in my Swift for last one year with no issues whatsoever in my stock headlight. There is no scattering of light at all. No wire cutting either just plug & play type. Philips makes the kit specifically for normal stock headlight systems for owners who want to upgrade. Installing a good xenon kit is one decision you will not regret, believe me , you really feel the difference on highways and deserted roads at night.
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Thanks Nirmal.
Could you please let me know where can I get this done in Bangalore? ( I prefer not to go on a blind hunt in J C road ).
I have heard few of my friends talking about JC road guys duping customers with not-so-good stuff.
One of my friends had his Baleno fitted with a 130W bulb. Needless to say the whole thing got overheated.
Is Philips 6000 K HID similar to what Naveen mentioned in the earlier post?

Thanks,
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Hi Naveen,
Thanks a ton for the quick reply and giving me 2 options.

Why do you suggest to go with the 1st option? Is it because the 2nd option require tweaks with the original wiring?

Do you think 1st option will be OK with dealers since it involves fitting of new relay and ceramic holder? (yes, as you mentioned original wiring should be intact)

Thanks in advance,
Actually, going for HIDs is the easiest option since it comes with a kit and just a plug n play setup. Install the ballast, connect it to the battery and the other end to the bulb. Simple.!
But I have seen many cars and even heard many mixed reactions from users that most of the light gets scattered. If you can find a good brand and willing to shell out some cash then you can go for the HIDs. Around 8k-10k atleast.

As for the first option, the service guys wont approve upgrading the lights to 100/90 or even HID's. It wont void the warranty but somehow those guys dont like the idea of us modifying the cars..
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Hi, This is what i heard from Pratham Motors Service Head - as long as original wiring is not cut or tampered, even if you install a xenon kit, your warranty will still be valid. Please check once before you take a decision. I myself have been running a Philips 6000 K HID kit in my Swift for last one year with no issues whatsoever in my stock headlight. There is no scattering of light at all. No wire cutting either just plug & play type. Philips makes the kit specifically for normal stock headlight systems for owners who want to upgrade. Installing a good xenon kit is one decision you will not regret, believe me , you really feel the difference on highways and deserted roads at night.
True.
I guess since you are using Philips, you are getting the best possible result. Use of other brands have many issues regarding the light getting scattered. I did some solid research for months before installing the projectors for my ride.
Philips is always good. Guess people try other brands because of it's price. How much did you pay for those? Can you post the pics?
I shall post my ride's video here.
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Here's the video of my ride's HIDs running on Projectors.
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Thanks Nirmal.
Could you please let me know where can I get this done in Bangalore? ( I prefer not to go on a blind hunt in J C road ).
I have heard few of my friends talking about JC road guys duping customers with not-so-good stuff.
One of my friends had his Baleno fitted with a 130W bulb. Needless to say the whole thing got overheated.
Is Philips 6000 K HID similar to what Naveen mentioned in the earlier post?

Thanks,
I got the kit for 8,500 from the Philips distributor from JC Road & the installation was 500. Was not too happy with the installer though. I would suggest u buy the kit & get it installed with some good person. One i know is Sprocket in Koramangala.
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Contact Sunil Mittal,
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Ph: 9844166794

Whereby do you stay in Blore ? You can check out my conversion if you want & take a decision !

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True.
I guess since you are using Philips, you are getting the best possible result. Use of other brands have many issues regarding the light getting scattered. I did some solid research for months before installing the projectors for my ride.
Philips is always good. Guess people try other brands because of it's price. How much did you pay for those? Can you post the pics?
I shall post my ride's video here.
Very true, me too did a proper research for months before going for this. Spoke to the Philips company guys & went ahead with their assurance.
Nice video You have quite a good projector set up Can you give us more details ? Pics are below !
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Sorry guys, forgot to attach the pics !
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Here's the video of my ride's HIDs running on Projectors.
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Hi Naveen,

Great setup...where did you get the projector setup for Swift? Can teh retrofit be done for any other brand/model of car?
How much did you pay for it?

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I got the kit for 8,500 from the Philips distributor from JC Road & the installation was 500. Was not too happy with the installer though. I would suggest u buy the kit & get it installed with some good person. One i know is Sprocket in Koramangala.
Philips Distributor :
Contact Sunil Mittal,
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22/23 1st floor
3rd cross
JC road
Bangalore
Ph: 9844166794

Whereby do you stay in Blore ? You can check out my conversion if you want & take a decision !



Very true, me too did a proper research for months before going for this. Spoke to the Philips company guys & went ahead with their assurance.
Nice video You have quite a good projector set up Can you give us more details ? Pics are below !

As requested here are some more pics of my setup.
It's a Fully CCFL singly projector headlights with motorized auto level. I use 4300k Auto Gauge HIDs.
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Hi Naveen,

Great setup...where did you get the projector setup for Swift? Can teh retrofit be done for any other brand/model of car?
How much did you pay for it?

thanks
Thanks dude.
I got this from Cochin. This kit only suits Swift. I got it for 13.5k some 6 months back.
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