Premium Diesel for your Oilburners - Team-BHP

rajneeesh · 17th November 2007, 11:10

Folks,

I would like your opinion on this . Which s the best Diesel for Cars like the Indica in case you are not using any additives. I have read conflicting opinions on this as some forum members opine that Xtra Mile and Turbojet result in excessive smoking.

A lot of forum members also recommend Shell but the same is not commonly available in NCR ( if at all).

Regards,

Rajneeesh

blorebuddy · 17th November 2007, 16:21

I tried normal and xtra mile diesel for my Swift VDi and looks like mileage is better with Xtra mile so sticking with it.

Yes Looks like It is smoking more but I am not worried too much about it.

BUSA · 17th November 2007, 23:31

I heard Indica owners use System D for better FE.

Dont and i repeat dont put premium fuels for your diesel cars, it will only make the car smoke more and some more.

gd1418 · 18th November 2007, 18:33

The best is the normal diesel without any additives. Gives the best mileage though a bit coarser

jerish666 · 18th November 2007, 19:22

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Originally Posted by gd1418

The best is the normal diesel without any additives. Gives the best mileage though a bit coarser

You are right.Normally with premium diesel engine is smooth,but too much smoke.With normal diesel even it is coarser there wont be much smoke.But one thing i noticed with premium diesel is get more power than normal diesel.

ram_hyundai · 18th November 2007, 19:23

maybe true,after using the super diesel of bp i get very low mileage throughout my 20000 km in my verna,i am thinking of switching over to normal diesel after this tankfull.i am getting arround 12-16 kmpl overall.

ram

Thad E Ginathom · 18th November 2007, 19:25

"premium" fuels seem unpopular on this site, and particularly I've taken the advise not to use them in my Swift VDI. It's a first diesel for me (pwnership at least, I've driven others) so advice is really useful.

But, if everybody is advising against premium fuel, what is the point of it? What are the oil companies selling there? Is it just a marketing thing?

I used to put higher-price, higher-octane petrol in my car in UK: the mileage was noticably better, and it worked out less per mile than the lower price. Either was acceptable according to the car manufacturer.

snaronikar · 18th November 2007, 19:40

Yeah...that's right. I use normal fuel to my Ikon. I have stopped using the premium fuel as there was no big difference in the mileage I was getting. I switched back to normal.

BUSA · 18th November 2007, 19:46

For petrols using Premium fuels is fine, i have been using primarily since the car is meant to run on 91Octane only.

About diesel when i used the car smoked so much that there was no visibility at the rear in my RVMs.

ram_hyundai · 18th November 2007, 21:09

yes the smoke is too much and when we care for our drive i hate premium nowram

zucchero · 19th November 2007, 11:14

i have started using SYSTEM D for my dicor and believe me the engine is lot smoother and peppy then before.
i highly recommend system d with normal fuel.

GTO · 19th November 2007, 16:29

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But, if everybody is advising against premium fuel, what is the point of it? What are the oil companies selling there? Is it just a marketing thing?

Yup, its just a marketing gimmick.

Quote:

I used to put higher-price, higher-octane petrol in my car in UK: the mileage was noticably better, and it worked out less per mile than the lower price. Either was acceptable according to the car manufacturer.

Fuel octane rating is vastly different from regular fuel + additives. Some engines with high compression ratios perform noticeably better on higher octane petrol. But the supposedly premium diesel has no conceivable benefits. Mercedes Benz, Skoda and Ford strictly advise AGAINST premium diesel.

Jaggu · 19th November 2007, 16:47

Also check this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...m-engines.html (Do premium fuels harm engines?)

Thad E Ginathom · 19th November 2007, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Yup, its just a marketing gimmick.

Fuel octane rating is vastly different from regular fuel + additives. Some engines with high compression ratios perform noticeably better on higher octane petrol. But the supposedly premium diesel has no conceivable benefits. Mercedes Benz, Skoda and Ford strictly advise AGAINST premium diesel.

Astonishing!

I made the mistake of putting in my old Indica (Woops, I forgot that --- second-time diesel owner), and probably would in the Swift too if I hadn't read the warning here first.

mithun · 20th November 2007, 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

"premium" fuels seem unpopular on this site, and particularly I've taken the advise not to use them in my Swift VDI. It's a first diesel for me (pwnership at least, I've driven others) so advice is really useful.

But, if everybody is advising against premium fuel, what is the point of it? What are the oil companies selling there? Is it just a marketing thing?

I used to put higher-price, higher-octane petrol in my car in UK: the mileage was noticably better, and it worked out less per mile than the lower price. Either was acceptable according to the car manufacturer.

Premium petrols are popular at Team-BHP but not Premium diesels. The FE seems to be better with Premium petrols.

I'm ignorant about the Premium diesels since I'm a Petrolhead !

17th November 2007, 11:10	#1 (permalink)
rajneeesh BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: noida Posts: 268	Premium Diesel for your Oilburners Folks, I would like your opinion on this . Which s the best Diesel for Cars like the Indica in case you are not using any additives. I have read conflicting opinions on this as some forum members opine that Xtra Mile and Turbojet result in excessive smoking. A lot of forum members also recommend Shell but the same is not commonly available in NCR ( if at all). Regards, Rajneeesh

17th November 2007, 16:21	#2 (permalink)
blorebuddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 229	I tried normal and xtra mile diesel for my Swift VDi and looks like mileage is better with Xtra mile so sticking with it. Yes Looks like It is smoking more but I am not worried too much about it. __________________ Swift VDi - Jun 2007 - 17500 Kms+ Suzuki Max 100R - Jun 2001 - 36500 Kms+

17th November 2007, 23:31	#3 (permalink)
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,069 View My Garage	I heard Indica owners use System D for better FE. Dont and i repeat dont put premium fuels for your diesel cars, it will only make the car smoke more and some more. __________________ Got Bhp? Team-Bhp.com

18th November 2007, 18:33	#4 (permalink)
gd1418 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,616 View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (4)	The best is the normal diesel without any additives. Gives the best mileage though a bit coarser __________________ Royal Enfield Bullet 1962 All Black 1998 Safari 4x4 All Black 2004 Scorpio GLx

18th November 2007, 19:23	#6 (permalink)
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: trivandrum,alleppey Posts: 1,564 View My Garage	maybe true,after using the super diesel of bp i get very low mileage throughout my 20000 km in my verna,i am thinking of switching over to normal diesel after this tankfull.i am getting arround 12-16 kmpl overall. ram __________________ *Become MAD SOON and join the MON SOON Drive.* *one more from me-* *hey MAN come SOON for the MONSOON drive*

18th November 2007, 19:25	#7 (permalink)
Thad E Ginathom Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,120	"premium" fuels seem unpopular on this site, and particularly I've taken the advise not to use them in my Swift VDI. It's a first diesel for me (pwnership at least, I've driven others) so advice is really useful. But, if everybody is advising against premium fuel, what is the point of it? What are the oil companies selling there? Is it just a marketing thing? I used to put higher-price, higher-octane petrol in my car in UK: the mileage was noticably better, and it worked out less per mile than the lower price. Either was acceptable according to the car manufacturer.

18th November 2007, 19:40	#8 (permalink)
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,172 View My Garage	Yeah...that's right. I use normal fuel to my Ikon. I have stopped using the premium fuel as there was no big difference in the mileage I was getting. I switched back to normal. __________________ Love your job but Never love your company because you never know when your company stops loving you-NRN

18th November 2007, 19:46	#9 (permalink)
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,069 View My Garage	For petrols using Premium fuels is fine, i have been using primarily since the car is meant to run on 91Octane only. About diesel when i used the car smoked so much that there was no visibility at the rear in my RVMs. __________________ Got Bhp? Team-Bhp.com

18th November 2007, 21:09	#10 (permalink)
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: trivandrum,alleppey Posts: 1,564 View My Garage	yes the smoke is too much and when we care for our drive i hate premium nowram __________________ *Become MAD SOON and join the MON SOON Drive.* *one more from me-* *hey MAN come SOON for the MONSOON drive*

19th November 2007, 11:14	#11 (permalink)
zucchero BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: faridabad/rourkela Posts: 211	i have started using SYSTEM D for my dicor and believe me the engine is lot smoother and peppy then before. i highly recommend system d with normal fuel.

19th November 2007, 16:47	#13 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,906	Also check this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...m-engines.html (Do premium fuels harm engines?) __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

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