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Old 5th December 2007, 01:49   #151
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Just to add some masala to the already spiced up thread.

How would Viva CRDI Vs Baleno Vs Honda City ( non-vtec) fare? Trust me, viva crdi is no sloucher
i have not driven the crdi and till now did not have the oppurtunity of dragging with one from a standstill, but have seen quite a few on the highways and must agree that it becomes quite difficult to overtake one if the driver is not that willing to oblige.
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i have not driven the crdi .
Adds to the list of cars you had not TD'd!!

But in all this, we havn't even started speaking about the Real McCoy the Palio GTX. Maybe life starts a bit late, maybe you cry at the petrol pump but the car makes you smile at every other opportunity. Potholes? What potholes? it flattens them. Handling, the Baby Elephant is a Ballet Dancer. When the Khaki clad animals approach you, simply fling open the door. Is there a car better built this side of a Merc.

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Adds to the list of cars you had not TD'd!!
did not td it as I was never going to buy it. it was way beyond my budget

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But in all this, we havn't even started speaking about the real mcCoy the Palio GTX.
this is a damn good car but has the bulk against it.but its strength is on the twisted roads..
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did not td it as I was never going to buy it. it was way beyond my budget



this is a damn good car but has the bulk against it.
Not much (infact the solidity of the structre adds to the structural rigidity and handling), this is one car that opens up after 3500 rpm and the torque simply opens the floodgates. Infact the Max torque Rpm always ensures that whenever you upshift at or near the redline, you are just below the maximum torque rpm, and it sings merrily from there. In contrast the 2500 rpm torque band cars offer easy driveability, but when you upshift at redline, the engine is past its maximum torque.

One more thing in the Palio GTX (infact all Fiat cars) is the pedal placement. They are perfect for heel toe-ing. There is no other driving machine, like it.

Only the weekend was a brash that always wanted to go out of hand.

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Not much (infact the solidity of the structre adds to the structural rigidity and handling), this is one car that opens up after 3500 rpm and the torque simply opens the floodgates. Infact the Max torque Rpm always ensures that whenever you upshift at or near the redline, you are just below the maximum torque rpm, and it sings merrily from there. In contrast the 2500 rpm torque band cars offer easy driveability, but when you upshift at redline, the engine is past its maximum torque.
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Only the weekend was a brash that always wanted to go out of hand.
T:W ratio, the Baleno is better off, you know. But I must confess, I have driven 3 of these, and enjoyed them. None of them were stock -- 2 modded Palios which would and did leave most Vtecs behind. And the third is the Adventure, whose rear always begs to step out, held in line only by some good rubber and rally rims.

There is something special about how the engine wakes up past about 2500 rpm. The noise it makes is truly Italian.

Still horribly built, though. Backed up by even worse service, though now Tata is a little better than the nincompoops who originally ran Fiat (into the ground).
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There is something special about how the engine wakes up past about 2500 rpm.
Is that a typo? I think it actually used to wake up little over 3000 and really starts to grunt after 3500rpm.

But something in me tells me that the Original Sienna 1.6 (the moustache type front end car) felt more grunty. Is that a myth? Or is it that at it was the bowling over at first acquaintance with the engine.

Infact even on the Ikon its the same, the NXT's infact seem a bit mellowed in comparison. The E-II baleno vs E-III is now a well known fact.
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No, it's not a typo. It wakes up past 2500, though the full rush may only come at the 3000 mark.

Not had too much experience with the Ikons or the old 1590 Fiat engines, but yes, the Baleno is a known thing. But also, Maruti was pretty truthful in restating the figures in their brochures.

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He can take corners with his eyes closed
I'd love to see this.

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He he.. I am sure.. so what shall I consider this! an invitation for a drag! ;-)
Where?

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Not had too much experience with the Ikons or the old 1590 Fiat engines,
They were 1580 cc engines and much peppier than the 1596 cc engines. Placement on the cat-con is also different.
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They were 1580 cc engines and much peppier than the 1596 cc engines. Placement on the cat-con is also different.
Aah that answers it.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...erences-3.html (Palio 1.6 GTX v/s Palio 1.6 Sport - Visible Differences)

Ever since I heard this on this forum, it had been bugging me. I was quite sure I had seen something different.

Now when I recall, I havn't seen the GTX engine bay in detail at all. It was the Sienna I had seen and assumed GTX to have the same "Torque" Motor. That explains it.

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Ikon 1.6, Baleno 1.6 and the Palio 1.6 acceleration times can be found at some old issues of Autocar. Ikon's was 11.96 and more or less is in the ball park of what the company claimed.
That was what I remembered; the problem here is that some of our older members are now freely quoting Overdrive in the same breath as they'd earlier denounced it - SIMPLY because the V-tec timings are close to what Autocar have said. Don't want to call it double-standards as this would lead to an endless debate but that's what it is .

I had always been told that the Esteem beat the Ikon 1.6 closely to the ton and the 11.96 does appear more realistic than than the 14.whatever.

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Hmm.... on the subject of handling, I would humbly like to nominate the Lancer. I know it's not got the legs to keep up with a VTEC or a Baleno (at least the initial part... top-end is not bad), but I think a well maintained Lancer, even stock, can rival an Ikon or Fiesta when it comes to handling, at all speeds.
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Where?
He he.. cant take my car 2000kms to drag it against BP's Baleno

A stock baleno will be the same,in calcutta or in bangalore, be it black pearl's one or somebody else's..

I am game anytime to drag my stock Vtec against a stock Baleno.. so u know anyone which u think has one and would be interested

Cheers,
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so u know anyone which u think has one and would be interested
Not encouraging dragging/racing here, but just to answer your question, v1p3r has one (stock AFAIK) and he is in Blore too.
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Shrey when you bought VTEC man, even heard from few HP friends that you bought R6 and Honda CB250 also after selling your "99" CBZ .
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Shrey when you bought VTEC man, even heard from few HP friends that you bought R6 and Honda CB250 also after selling your "99" CBZ .

Hey Ajay,
Its been almost 2 months I got the vtec. It was not it Blore but then I decided to get it here.

This is OT on this thread yaar! but still, I never bought a R6..I personally do not like the R6's and R1's.. The CB250 ur mentioning was rishi's zma which at one time looked exactly like a250.

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