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Old 1st December 2007, 05:13   #121
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I think we all agree that the Vtec has the advantage over the Baleno.
being a Baleno owner I will take a bow to the great Vtec.


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To be fair, even though the City 1.5 is 100bhp and the Baleno is 91/94bhp
Baleno has the advantage. (I know I know bhp aint everything)
1st lets start by asking : Whats fair in comparing a 1.5 with a 1.6 capacity engine ?

BHP may be more from the smaller engine but thats becoz it revs higher, maybe the baleno engine makes more torque...
Would be fair if the OHC was 1.6 and then the Baleno was then compared to the OHC
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Old 1st December 2007, 05:33   #122
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yup, my thoughts are same. I would be quite happy to know that Baleno can outrun a car with 9 bhp more
You are having a 1.6 litre engine, you have the advantage of bigger engine, dont know if you would have felt happy if the OHC was also 1.6 litres.
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You are having a 1.6 litre engine, you have the advantage of bigger engine, dont know if you would have felt happy if the OHC was also 1.6 litres.
either you are lagging far behind or digging up old posts in this thread. a lot more has been discussed after this. the outcome is clear. its better not to discuss the topic any further as it is not going to enhance anybody's knowledge.

may you please tell us what car you drive?

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Old 1st December 2007, 12:27   #124
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OHC 1.5Exi
Max. Power 100 bhp @ 6500rpm
Max. Torque 131.0 N-m @4600rpm

Baleno EII
Max. Power 94 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Max. Torque 132.0 N-m @ 3000 rpm

Baleno EIII
Max. Power 91 bhp @ 5500 rpm
Max. Torque 130.5 N-m @ 3000 rpm
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Hey guys!

just wanted to add, I ran my vtec with a stock baleno yesterday while coming back from MG's. It was a rolling start, you know, the kind off first you dont want to do it and then you're like "what the heck" lets do it kinds. I was in my second gear and I believe the other driver was in his 2nd too, I was around 2.5k rpm and thereafter floored the accelerator not too much to my surprise the baleno for just abt a moment nudged ahead of my car (I guess it having more torque lower down the revs), but thereafter I took it with ease.

Just thought of sharing it with you all, I know that this is very obvious to all of you.

Cheers
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Now there is practical proof too, which tallies with theoretical proof derived from the magazine data.
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I was in my second gear and I believe the other driver was in his 2nd too, I was around 2.5k rpm and thereafter floored the accelerator not too much to my surprise the baleno for just abt a moment nudged ahead of my car (I guess it having more torque lower down the revs), but thereafter I took it with ease.
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Now there is practical proof too, which tallies with theoretical proof derived from the magazine data.
That's a bit debatable. A lot would depend on a driver in these drags. His efficiency in gear changing, what rpm he shifts at etc.

But to be honest, this thread has reached a conclusion. In stock form, the VTEC is faster than the Baleno to the ton and beyond. Let's leave it at that.
@mods: can this thread be locked now?
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That's a bit debatable. A lot would depend on a driver in these drags. His efficiency in gear changing, what rpm he shifts at etc.

But to be honest, this thread has reached a conclusion. In stock form, the VTEC is faster than the Baleno to the ton and beyond. Let's leave it at that.
@mods: can this thread be locked now?
Yes we can leave the Vtec.. however many still want to know how the Honda fairs sans Vtec.

Why close the thread when many have to contribute and still have issues to clarify.

What Many of us agree is

1) The Vtec is faster and meaner than the Baleno.
2) Bhp aint everything
3) CC aint everything

City 1.5 Vs Baleno
Which is better on the straight and on a track?
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Hey guys!

just wanted to add, I ran my vtec with a stock baleno yesterday while coming back from MG's. It was a rolling start, you know, the kind off first you dont want to do it and then you're like "what the heck" lets do it kinds. I was in my second gear and I believe the other driver was in his 2nd too, I was around 2.5k rpm and thereafter floored the accelerator not too much to my surprise the baleno for just abt a moment nudged ahead of my car (I guess it having more torque lower down the revs), but thereafter I took it with ease.

Just thought of sharing it with you all, I know that this is very obvious to all of you.

Cheers
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these street races should not be cited as practical examples unless the drivers are evenly matched. otherwise people will start giving numerous examples of what-not-they-have-beaten. examples of people beating A4s and A6s in vtecs and balenos will start pouring in ....
ohc vtec is not that superior to a baleno that any driver can use the potential of the vtec to beat a baleno

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Why close the thread when many have to contribute and still have issues to clarify.
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City 1.5 Vs Baleno
Which is better on the straight and on a track?
Time to rename the thread maybe?
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Which is better on the straight and on a track?
Track the Honda would lose, I guess.
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Time to rename the thread maybe?
Or probably time to close this thread
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these street races should not be cited as practical examples unless the drivers are evenly matched. otherwise people will start giving numerous examples of what-not-they-have-beaten. examples of people beating A4s and A6s in vtecs and balenos will start pouring in ....
ohc vtec is not that superior to a baleno that any driver can use the potential of the vtec to beat a baleno

Hi,
the information that I wanted to pass on from my post was just that the Baleno has some decent amount of torque lower down the revvs no matter what the figures on the paper say.

In no way was this intended to encourage street racing or to encourage people to post about their experiences on the street. I just thought of sharing this information as we all had been talking about figures and I just happen to experience something first hand.

As far as the stock OHC vtec is concerned, well it is a superior car to the stock Baleno, we all agree about it.

Buddy me ain't that bad a driver that would loose out to a stock baleno with a vtec underneath my hood!

Cheers,
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Buddy me ain't that bad a driver that would loose out to a stock baleno with a vtec underneath my hood!

Cheers,
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that depends on who is driving the stock baleno... but definitely not me
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In stock form, the VTEC is faster than the Baleno to the ton and beyond. Let's leave it at that.
I second that, without thinking twice. It should be true IMO.

I've been following this thread for quite sometime now. If the above is what we've reached, what are we trying to discuss now?
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