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Old 20th November 2007, 20:52   #16
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This is a bit anti-climax. I was looking for yet another "Indica - more complaint per complaint" thread. :-(
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Old 21st November 2007, 10:44   #17
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Same here I just love Mini Bread Box Threads too !!!
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Old 24th November 2007, 12:28   #18
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Default Cold Start Problem with my Indica - Pls Help!

Hi,

lately my Indica has started giving me starting troubles in the cold mornings. my findings have been:
  • When I crank the engine (without pressing the accelator); it starts and then stops, whereas it wasn't the case in the summers.
  • The glow (heater) light have started taking considerably long to get off.
  • As soon as the car starts (with accelator), there's a sheer belt noise.
Any suggestions?
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Old 24th November 2007, 13:32   #19
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One of the glow plugs is malfunctioning. Get the belsts tightened. Check first if they are frayed etc..

What's the battery condition. Normally if the battery is nearing its end, it starts giving a lot of problem in winters; weak current etc..

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Hi,

lately my Indica has started giving me starting troubles in the cold mornings. my findings have been:
  • When I crank the engine (without pressing the accelator); it starts and then stops, whereas it wasn't the case in the summers.
  • The glow (heater) light have started taking considerably long to get off.
  • As soon as the car starts (with accelator), there's a sheer belt noise.
Any suggestions?
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Old 26th November 2007, 11:46   #20
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Thanks GD bhai, any inputs as to whether replacing glowplugs is a time-consuming process involving visit to mechanic or DIY?
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Old 26th November 2007, 12:03   #21
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it happened to us this season,
all the 4 heater plugs went kaput. We have a 2003 Indica V2 Dls.
Total cost 1350/-

took to a mechanic, he took 3 hours to do to them. Oh!, he didnt have them in his stock, he had to get them first and replace. I dont think its DIY. But if you are serious DIYer, may be you can do it yourself.

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Old 26th November 2007, 14:00   #22
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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-problems.html (Tata Indica - List of problems)
Hope this helps.
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I got the glow plugs on my indica day before yesterday.
2 out of 4 had gone. Got MICO-Bosch plugs, 540 a pair.

As for belt, don't get it tightened blindly. Over tight belt means alternator bearing damage which means belt snapping and expensive alternator repair.
Slight screeching is okay. Only if you get screeching all the time you should get it tightened. If it screeches only in morning, ignore it.
If you don't get it fixed and your car refuses to start pour boiling water on injectors.
Thats what I did
on saturday morning. The car refused to start. 1.5 liters of boiling water on the injectors fixed the problem.
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I got the glow plugs on my indica day before yesterday.
2 out of 4 had gone. Got MICO-Bosch plugs, 540 a pair.
thats low, considering i paid 1350/- for two pairs.

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If you don't get it fixed and your car refuses to start pour boiling water on injectors.
Thats what I did
on saturday morning. The car refused to start. 1.5 liters of boiling water on the injectors fixed the problem.
DIY????
good idea, i thought cool water helps cooling down the hot engine.
Now, hot water to wake up the cold engine. Will keep this in mind.

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thats low, considering i paid 1350/- for two pairs.
thats because you went to Tata. The glow plugs you got were not Bosch, they were Behru or something like that(Tata OEM) and are cheaper than Bosch(I think 400 a pair)

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DIY????
good idea, i thought cool water helps cooling down the hot engine.
Now, hot water to wake up the cold engine. Will keep this in mind.

raj.
Never put cold water on an overheated engine. Quenching a red hot block can lead to cracks and subsequent engine failure.

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Thanks GD bhai, any inputs as to whether replacing glowplugs is a time-consuming process involving visit to mechanic or DIY?
Do it yourself if you have a good T spanner.
PS: Buy only branded plugs. Other ones will not give proper heating and may get kaput soon and most importantly when you have to change it next time the neck will break and you will end up removing the engine head and will have to remove it at some lathe.
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good idea, i thought cool water helps cooling down the hot engine.
Now, hot water to wake up the cold engine. Will keep this in mind.
Please don't ever pour cold water on a hot engine. You might be looking at a very expensive repair bill!
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Thanks GD bhai, any inputs as to whether replacing glowplugs is a time-consuming process involving visit to mechanic or DIY?
Any roadside guy should be able to do it. Takes 10 minutes.
first you take out all the glow plugs.
Connect directly to battery and see whether there is a wisp of smoke from the diesel soaked end(Do not touch, very hot).
After identifying which went kaput, you get the appropriate number.
If you have never done the DIY, don't. Give 50rs to a roadside guy. He will tell you which plugs have gone. Since your car starts eventually, I presume either 1 or 2 are gone.
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thats because you went to Tata. The glow plugs you got were not Bosch, they were Behru or something like that(Tata OEM) and are cheaper than Bosch(I think 400 a pair)
nope, went to a regular mechanic.

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Please don't ever pour cold water on a hot engine. You might be looking at a very expensive repair bill!
No way, it was just a joke. I am not going to try pouring hot water as well.
I would rather push start the engine.

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No way, it was just a joke. I am not going to try pouring hot water as well.
I would rather push start the engine.

raj.
Push start works when your battery is too weak to start the engine or your starter motor goes kaput. when your engine is cold and your glow plugs are not working, push start will not help. Infact repeatedly cranking the engine and pushstart will flood the engine with diesel and may make starting even more difficult.
Putting water at around 70 degree C(what you get out of the home geyser) is not going to cause any damage.
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