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Old 4th June 2009, 10:07   #346
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above info is if you can get your hands on a multimeter

Otherwise, never mind. The TASC /Lucas TVS service center/An auto electricals place should be able to check this out. Lucas TVS makes the alternator, so you may get a better deal from them, compared to the TASC.

Was the alternator changed during the rebuild ? Depending on this , the alternator cost will have to be claimed under warranty or insurance, and depending on that , the TASC may have to be involved

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If you can post a picture of your multimeter, we can tell you what to connect where.
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Have you found someone competent to handle your Indica issues yet.?

Are you specific about the reliable mechanic ONLY in New bombay area.?

Having lived rather comfortably with a '99 Indica NA for 10years and a Indica V2 DLG now, i know of a few good competent folks in Santacruz & Andheri area for any specific issues.

Do PM me if your keen.

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I have a 2003 Indica DLS which has done about 35K Kms. Have several Issues(Rear shocks need to be changed, Engine gasket needs a change, noise from front suspension, etc) & Rattles in the car and would like to show it to a competent mechanic garage. So far TASS & Local mechanics I have given the car to have not been able to bring the car to original glory. Can anyone please provide me contacts for a reliable mechanic/garage in Navi Mumbai?

One pecular problem I have which I need help is when I am driving with AC ON & I have to brake (I usually press only brake till the car slows down and press the clutch only if I feel the car would stall). Now when the car slows down and is about to stall(say I am in second gear and the car has slowed down to 20 KMPH), all of a sudden it automatically accelarates for a second or two. This does not happen when the AC is off. Without AC ON, The car would keep slowing & then stall. TASS says every indica behaves this way, which I feel is crap as the car did not have this problem for the first 3 years
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above info is if you can get your hands on a multimeter

Otherwise, never mind. The TASC /Lucas TVS service center/An auto electricals place should be able to check this out. Lucas TVS makes the alternator, so you may get a better deal from them, compared to the TASC.

Was the alternator changed during the rebuild ? Depending on this , the alternator cost will have to be claimed under warranty or insurance, and depending on that , the TASC may have to be involved
1) Yeah, I think I will leave it to TASC... will chk this saturday
2) nope, nothing changed, only disassembled and assembled... actually, the Alternator was never removed, When the engine was taken down, the alterantor was still attached to it if I am right.
3) I pray its all covered under warranty, tomm is 1st Bday for the car...!!

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If you can post a picture of your multimeter, we can tell you what to connect where.
Tanveer - yet to buy one, I think on the long run - TATA should provide one with the tool kit!! Jokes apart, I will either buy and post a pic here or get it done @ a TASC.
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Old 4th June 2009, 13:03   #350
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Hi,

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1) Yeah, I think I will leave it to TASC
3) I pray its all covered under warranty, tomm is 1st Bday for the car...!!
Here is what I found in the extended warranty document of my Marina:

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

Starter motor and solenoid, alternator, distributor, coil, wiper and wassher motor, window motors, fan motors, switches and instruments.
(Exclusions: Batteries, light bulbs/units, wiper blades/rubbers, distributor caps and leads)

Your covered both in your primary warranty as well as extended warranty.

It is just a coincidence that you had to put it under the 'Indica - list of problems'. Alternators from Lucas TVS are quite prone to such problems.

In my old Indica, the alternator was changed under warranty. I had to pay Rs 150 as transporting charges (Cochin - Alleppey) when it was around 18500kms and about an year old!

Luckily the Marina one is holding good so far.

It was nice talking to you. I could not find anything on TIUG from you, though!

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err.. guys, how exactly do I check that? I remember a multimeter is the yellow and red wire thingy with a speedo meter box and many holes to plug in the wires.... now which holes (voltage) do I plug in the 2 wires on the meter and which of the yellow/red do I touch the black/red combo in the battery?
Her is my 6 year old one bought for Rs.120/-
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...1&d=1244106358

Insert black lead to COM (common) socket of the meter and the red one to the V (Volt) socket. Slide the selector rotor to 20V (DC) range. Touch +ve battery terminal with red lead and -ve (ground) terminal with black lead. You will get the voltage reading.

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janitha, here's how
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/announ...-team-bhp.html (Uploading photographs directly to Team-BHP)
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---------EDIT--------Thanks a Ton to Janita & Greenhorn, Coincidence I got a SAME/Similar Multimeter--------

Problem got murkier...

1) 13.02 is what battery is discharging with ENGINE OFF.
2) 14.29 V during the RPM Surge (1050 RPM).
3) 14.21 during NORMAL 850ROM IDLE

So is this a PROBLEM? Or am i missing some thing?

4) And, just noticed, does the nearly CLOGGED AIR FILTER Play ANY ROLE??
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2) One night while driving back I noticed my car was auto-dipping HIGH-LOW-HIGH-LOW by itself - not through the switch though. The low beam itself was ACTING UP like IT WAS A CURRENT SURGE. Bright-Normal-Bright-Normal.

3) Nowadays - the Fan blower starts increasing from 2-3 speed like flow itself. Not through the switch, BUT AGAIN THRU A CURRENT SURGE. The blower gets SO much more VOLTAGE that its goes 'whoooosh-normal-whooosh-normal' very rapidly.
IRRITATING..!!

4) All of a sudden the front Component speakers STOP working -come back on, Rear ovals STOP-Come back on. At times the Player Goes 'BLANK' and comes back on - I think Excess Voltage is making the auto-cutoff in the AMP work...!!

5) Off all this - the RPM..!! How can I not TELL THAT. Starting Idle is @ 850 - Ok good. Some where during the drive the AC FAN Goes 'Whoosh-normal-whoosh-normal', Audio goes 'dead-alive-dead' - Then I pull over and come to neutral & 'AC OFF' and RPM is CONSTANT 1050-1100. Then I cool the turbo quickly for 30Secs and Switch off the engine. Switch it back on and Viola... 850~ RPM. Another KM or 2 - PROBLEM DEJA Vuuu...!! But some times, during the course of my 12Km home-office drive, this problem NEVER occurs.

6) Oh - And when I notice the idling RPM is 1050-1100, I just switch on the AC, the compressor brings down the RPM to normal 1000 RPM (if AC is ON) - crazy....!!! AC, PwrSteering, FUEL EFFICIENCY ALL OK, FE is Ok because I drive ALWAYS with AC, so the HIGH RPM doesnt make a diff - it comes down if the AC is On...!!


Majorly confused and need desperate help...
Check the ground connection of the voltage regulator. This checking can only be done at a repair shop that specializes in the repair of alternators. DO not drive with the condtion unresolved. Bye

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On my 04 indica v2 petrol,there's been this nagging issue for quite a while.On stepping off the accelerator,the car jerks severely in 1st gear,almost as bad in 2nd..and a little less in 3rd.On accelerating,there's no jerk but it doesnt seem real smooth.
Got the fuel injectors carbon cleaned and it helped quite a bit but the problem still persists. Fuel filter was changed recently and a free flow fitted if they make any difference to the problem.Any leads?
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4) And, just noticed, does the nearly CLOGGED AIR FILTER Play ANY ROLE??
Buddy please change/clean your air filter ASAP
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@svsantosh - Its definitely alternator issue as others have suggested. I have experienced same symptoms with my Indica sometime back and I took my car to TVS Lucas. Apparently oil was leaking from oil seal onto alternator brushes and was causing the issue. TVS serviced my alternator and changed the oil seal and all the symptoms have vanished. Get your alternator checked quickly else you may have to change it completely and current surges can damage other electrical parts.

takecare and drive safely
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On my 04 indica v2 petrol,there's been this nagging issue for quite a while.On stepping off the accelerator,the car jerks severely in 1st gear,almost as bad in 2nd..and a little less in 3rd.On accelerating,there's no jerk but it doesnt seem real smooth.
Got the fuel injectors carbon cleaned and it helped quite a bit but the problem still persists. Fuel filter was changed recently and a free flow fitted if they make any difference to the problem.Any leads?

You need to do a thorough pump job. Its all to do with the pump and the pressure at which the injector opens even when decelerating.
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What is the cost invovled in a thorough pump job? The mechanic mentioned "opening up the injector nozzle a little".Is he referring to the same assuming this can also be classified as recalibration?
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Switch on the AC and headlights to full beam. Then measure voltage at idle.
It should not exceed 14.4V and should not go below 12.8-9
Since your battery is giving 13+ with engine off, I suspect your alternator regulator has gone bad..

As for Fuel Pump overhaul, it costs around 7500rs approx at TASC. It is done by Lucas.
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