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Old 11th June 2009, 16:45   #361
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Hi Tanveer, Greenhorn, Rajesh K(pune), Rajesh (Allepy)...& all,

I got the car back from its 30K service routine (@26K Kms).
The issue has been solved. I was told the alternator assy was sent to Lucas and Repaired and refixed. Driven about 30Kms to work and no issues so far. I will keep you guys posted if it resurfaces.

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Tanveer, I was cribbing that I was still getting a 14.3 - 14.4 reading after the so-called lucas service. Now I understand that its normal to go MAX @ 14.4. Thanks for the input...
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OT - the car rocks & feels as if it is buttered after the oil change. Total bill 2699Rs, Includes Oil, oil filter, diesel filter, 5wheel balancing/alignment. + 500Rs Bardhal oil additive.

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Old 11th June 2009, 17:31   #362
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What is the cost invovled in a thorough pump job?
Take a look at the following message:

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I hope this gives you a fairly accurate picture of what all was involved.

The pricing given by tsk1979 is pretty accurate.
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Old 12th June 2009, 16:39   #363
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Thanks doc,tsk n trrk.
Is it common to get a fuel pump overhaul done as early as 20k on the odo?Is there any chance that there's some other culprit?Just wanna make sure before getting the fuel pump redone.
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FIP overhauls arent done a lot. its kinda like an engine overhaul - usually done only once or twice during the lifetime of the FIP
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My Indica is still in the workshop.a great amount of works going on.Engine returned(Engine rebuilt by Engine "Specialists" near to my place) after overhaul- cost 15K.Now ,the delay is due to repair the underside shell which has rusted beyond imagination :( .Indeed ,the guys there(not a TASC) are doing a good job.
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Thanks doc,tsk n trrk.
Is it common to get a fuel pump overhaul done as early as 20k on the odo?Is there any chance that there's some other culprit?Just wanna make sure before getting the fuel pump redone.
Got it checked in my Indica at 53175kms and I have paid Rs 1365 at that time (approx 10/03/2004). i have marked it as calibration and repair, but don't have much of details. No pump work in my Sumo (55000kms) or Safari (76000kms).

There are some jerks felt at certain RPMs in the Marina. I ma not yet sure whether it is worthwhile to have the pump shown right now.
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My friend's indica was recently been to the service station and there, the mechanics told,a very small sound is coming from the wheel and that bearings has to be replaced.. Now, since the sound is very low, my friend has deferred the decision to replace the bearing, but, when he told me the same, was not sure how critical this is and hence thought will ask the experts. How critical is this bearing noise (can the replacement be deferred till the sound starts bothering you ) and what are the spares cost ?
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your friend can wait till the sound increases. Infact I suggest wait till end of monsoon. After monsoon the noise will increase quite a bit, as water wading takes it toll. In BLR my route meant water wading almost every day, and after every monsoon season I needed new bearings!
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Have been facing a weird problem in my Indica lately.

She has suddenly become a powerful beast, yeah I know, this is all contrary to my earlier posts. may be its the effoect of my earlier posts.

The car suddenly seems churn up significantly more power 3rd gear upward, any gusses?

There is one probem though, there is suddenly some starting trouble. the car starts easily (has a new battery) but then dies down, as if the diesel supply has been shut down.

Then there is a lot of RPM oscillations once the car has started, the RPM stabilizes only after the car runs for @2-3 KM.

Please help me with the probable causes and solutions?

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your friend can wait till the sound increases. Infact I suggest wait till end of monsoon. After monsoon the noise will increase quite a bit, as water wading takes it toll. In BLR my route meant water wading almost every day, and after every monsoon season I needed new bearings!
Thanks tsk. Meanwhile, my friend has decided to go ahead and replace the bearings. he has decided to get it done out of TASC and when he enquired with SKF bearing dealer, for front and rear wheel bearing, the dealer , it seems, has asked whether for rear bearing, he needs single or double. My friend responded that it is for left rear wheel, still he was asked, for the rear left itself,do you need single or double bearing.
Now, is there some thing like, rear wheels have 2 bearings ? What exactly does the dealer mean here ? I was under the assumption that each wheel has one bearing and only it has to be replaced. Can anyone throw some light in to this ?
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Actually its inner bearing and outer bearing.
The mechanic has to open up the bearings and see if the inner bearings are gone, or outer bearings.Normally inner bearings last longer than outer ones(personal experience)
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Actually its inner bearing and outer bearing.
The mechanic has to open up the bearings and see if the inner bearings are gone, or outer bearings.Normally inner bearings last longer than outer ones(personal experience)
that is something new to me.Thanks for the info. So, is this inner and outer bearing present only in rear wheels and not in front wheels?
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Have been facing a weird problem in my Indica lately.

She has suddenly become a powerful beast, yeah I know, this is all contrary to my earlier posts. may be its the effoect of my earlier posts.

The car suddenly seems churn up significantly more power 3rd gear upward, any gusses?

There is one probem though, there is suddenly some starting trouble. the car starts easily (has a new battery) but then dies down, as if the diesel supply has been shut down.

Then there is a lot of RPM oscillations once the car has started, the RPM stabilizes only after the car runs for @2-3 KM.

Please help me with the probable causes and solutions?

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my indica (non-turbo) also feels kinda powerful lately - I would say the last 5-8k kms or so. Not sure of the reason, though - have been getting only the regular service done.
the cold start in the mornings tends to lower the rpm slightly. this happens the moment i crank the engine - it hits the 1k mark, drops to 800 when I suddenly get a feeling that the engine might die down any moment, but then it comes back to life! i have observed this only over the last couple of months, when i had not used the car much for close to 4 months due to travel. but after 2-3 minutes of idling, i usually start driving and face no issues of this sort
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that is something new to me.Thanks for the info. So, is this inner and outer bearing present only in rear wheels and not in front wheels?
IIRC, for front also there are inner and outer bearings

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my indica (non-turbo) also feels kinda powerful lately - I would say the last 5-8k kms or so. Not sure of the reason, though - have been getting only the regular service done.
the cold start in the mornings tends to lower the rpm slightly. this happens the moment i crank the engine - it hits the 1k mark, drops to 800 when I suddenly get a feeling that the engine might die down any moment, but then it comes back to life! i have observed this only over the last couple of months, when i had not used the car much for close to 4 months due to travel. but after 2-3 minutes of idling, i usually start driving and face no issues of this sort
This is normal. Indica idle is pretty erratic when its very cold.
However if its too much it means one of the 4 glowplugs are gone. When all more than 2 glow plugs go bad, you car will give starting trouble at cold start.
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Found the problem in my car and got it resolved. There was a leakage in the diesel pipe, small enough to ensure that not too much diesel was lost, but big enough to introduce air at the start. This was causing the RPM oscillations and the sudden power effect.

My car is now back to normal, hopefully for a long time now.
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