Tata Indica - List Of Problems - Page 4 - Team-BHP

adityamunshi · 28th November 2007, 18:12

This isnt exactly a problem with the Indica but i'll post it in this thread anyway.

Im 6' 2" tall and I find the drivers seat a bit too cramped, even with the seat pushed all the way back.
It is quite difficult to move my left foot off the clutch and i have to keep my foot flexed in order to avoid riding the clutch. This works for short trips but I get severe pain after long drives.

Is there a way to increase the travel so that i can push the seat further back ?

mobike008 · 28th November 2007, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by adityamunshi

Is there a way to increase the travel so that i can push the seat further back ?

Sure, you can cut the back seat so you can push the driver seat all the way back till the boot

Jokes apart, there is nothing much you can do. Alternatives are you choose a more spacious car, wear slightly less chunkier boots ( this does make a good difference for comfortable clutch operation, speaking from exp as i am 6ft 1in tall myself)

adityamunshi · 16th December 2007, 22:30

The 'check engine' light comes on at RPMs above 2000 in my DLG (1700 K on the odo). Occasionally there's also a grinding noise at high RPMs.

Any ideas guys ?

dinar · 16th December 2007, 22:57

hey u need a to over haul the starter motor and use a bigger bat, it common on idicas ,that the starter won't take the load of a warm engine. thing is even if change the bat , it'll work for few month but later the same problem comes around, bosch bats work fine and fit in the existing fitting.
As for the black smoke it's again common with engines with 75000 km, on them.
Get the engine decarbonised , your both the second and third, problems will be reduced if not eliminated.

these things are common with indicas, dude do not worry, there is solution to all the problem now and in the future.

adityamunshi · 22nd December 2007, 22:55

Turned out to be a faulty 'crank assembly sensor' was reparied by TASC under warranty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adityamunshi

The 'check engine' light comes on at RPMs above 2000 in my DLG (1700 K on the odo). Occasionally there's also a grinding noise at high RPMs.

Any ideas guys ?

fiat-jsp · 30th December 2007, 22:39

Hi All,
My indica DLG Nov.2005 has done 89000Kms. Never had any trouble.Recently I encountered the Hot Start problem. on even cold mornings the car started at first go, however after a drive of 10 mins or more it refused to churn the self or it did with difficulty. A few time heater sometimes did the trick.
the battery dealer asked it needed a new battery. a couple of electricians did ask for self repair or replacement. Went to Tata Dealer and they charged Rs150 for self service and its almost a week and the car has cranked in one go in cold and hot engine state.

panky12345 · 4th January 2008, 18:22

Ok.... update time.

I recently got one of the glow plugs changed, (of the four one was faulty). It was Behr (i think) costed me around 280/- but the problem doesn't seem to go completely. I started the car after 2 days and it didn't. Then I did the ignition trick, i.e. let the heater sign go off, switched off the ignition and repeated. The car started, but I suspect the problem is somewhere else. Anything??

Zappo · 4th January 2008, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by adityamunshi

Turned out to be a faulty 'crank assembly sensor' was reparied by TASC under warranty.

I am a bit skeptical of these TASC guys. Many of them hide their incompetencies by blaming the very tools that are there to help them. Its very easy to blame the sensor and then repair/replace it (could be just that they even disconnected it). It is entirely possible that the sensor was trying to tell something else altogether that the nincompoop failed to understand.

Why I said this? For two reasons...
* A failed sensor cause those grinding noises from the engine at high RPMs? Sounds kiddish to me!
* There have been similar cases in the past and one of the guys once told me about a case where his friend got suspcious of the whole idea of failed sensor and took some cross-opinions from other TASCs in the city. Everyone had a different opinion! Ultimately he approached the regional Tata guys I guess and there engineers intervened to get the problem correctly sorted out.

EDIT: panky, you sure that only one glowplug had gone kaput? it is very much possible that another one has gone phutt. also check that the battery has enough juices left to make a cold start.

panky12345 · 7th January 2008, 12:47

thanks zappo.... i opened the bonnet yesterday to check the battery, realized that there are bubbles coming out of the cell - top (plastic wala dhakkan) where we pour the battery water. When i tried to open one of those, it was with some pressure that the water starting coming out.
I went to a battery wala, he checked and said that the cells were OK but weak and its high time to get the battery changed. I switched on to amaron and all's well.

adityamunshi · 13th January 2008, 11:05

What should I do now?

The problem has disappeared after the service.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zappo

I am a bit skeptical of these TASC guys. Many of them hide their incompetencies by blaming the very tools that are there to help them. Its very easy to blame the sensor and then repair/replace it (could be just that they even disconnected it). It is entirely possible that the sensor was trying to tell something else altogether that the nincompoop failed to understand.

Why I said this? For two reasons...
* A failed sensor cause those grinding noises from the engine at high RPMs? Sounds kiddish to me!
* There have been similar cases in the past and one of the guys once told me about a case where his friend got suspcious of the whole idea of failed sensor and took some cross-opinions from other TASCs in the city. Everyone had a different opinion! Ultimately he approached the regional Tata guys I guess and there engineers intervened to get the problem correctly sorted out.

adityamunshi · 12th February 2008, 14:42

My indica 2004 DLS 68K on the odo occasionally has trouble starting. Usually the problem occurs when the car is warm. It never happens in the mornings. I had the TASC guys check my battery and glow plugs but no problem was found.
The starter was overhauled a few months ago for the same problem but it returned sometime later.

Any ideas guys ?

BlackPearl · 12th February 2008, 15:03

My sister's car had been sitting idle for the past 15-20 days due to unavailability of a driver. So one day I went to start the car and saw that the check engine light had stayed on after starting the car. sometimes it was blinking like some loose connection. took it to the service centre where the mechanic tightened a few things and the light had gone off. this guy had no clue as to what might have happened and said that these things are quite common and one should not worry about it

. the best part was that the educated service advisor also told the same thing. but I insisted a lot and tried to get an answer from them. So they asked me to keep the car for the entire day and they would get back with some results. so in the evening while taking delivery of the car they told me that it was due to loose oxygen sensor.
but the problem cropped up again while returning from the service centre. the light is blinking sometimes and sometimes going off. I am totally confused and hope to give these guys a good thrashing the next time I take the car there.

wolfinstein · 12th February 2008, 15:54

Before you start thrashing...! I suggest ask them to hook up the Laptop to diagnose what the check engine error is, At times the check engine stays on or starts blinking and might even go away in a fugitive state-which can be attributed to either loose coupler or faulty connection somewhere----If it stays on,it has to be a fault.

adityamunshi · 13th February 2008, 16:53

tsk? anyone else ?

I need info urgently because im reluctant to go to TASC now. Should i go there again or to a roadside mechanic ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by adityamunshi

My indica 2004 DLS 68K on the odo occasionally has trouble starting. Usually the problem occurs when the car is warm. It never happens in the mornings. I had the TASC guys check my battery and glow plugs but no problem was found.
The starter was overhauled a few months ago for the same problem but it returned sometime later.

Any ideas guys ?

tsk1979 · 13th February 2008, 18:00

What kind of trouble your car has? The Starter motor refuses to turn when warm, or the starter motor turns the engine, or starter motor turns but it appears that its rotating free?

28th November 2007, 18:12	#46 (permalink)
adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 718	Height Problems This isnt exactly a problem with the Indica but i'll post it in this thread anyway. Im 6' 2" tall and I find the drivers seat a bit too cramped, even with the seat pushed all the way back. It is quite difficult to move my left foot off the clutch and i have to keep my foot flexed in order to avoid riding the clutch. This works for short trips but I get severe pain after long drives. Is there a way to increase the travel so that i can push the seat further back ? __________________ Sometimes, to do it right, you have to do it yourself

16th December 2007, 22:30	#48 (permalink)
adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 718	The 'check engine' light comes on at RPMs above 2000 in my DLG (1700 K on the odo). Occasionally there's also a grinding noise at high RPMs. Any ideas guys ? __________________ Sometimes, to do it right, you have to do it yourself

30th December 2007, 22:39	#51 (permalink)
fiat-jsp Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bathinda Posts: 6	Hi All, My indica DLG Nov.2005 has done 89000Kms. Never had any trouble.Recently I encountered the Hot Start problem. on even cold mornings the car started at first go, however after a drive of 10 mins or more it refused to churn the self or it did with difficulty. A few time heater sometimes did the trick. the battery dealer asked it needed a new battery. a couple of electricians did ask for self repair or replacement. Went to Tata Dealer and they charged Rs150 for self service and its almost a week and the car has cranked in one go in cold and hot engine state. __________________ Life is short, Make it Sweet, Keep not all the flowers for the grave.

4th January 2008, 18:22	#52 (permalink)
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,083	Ok.... update time. I recently got one of the glow plugs changed, (of the four one was faulty). It was Behr (i think) costed me around 280/- but the problem doesn't seem to go completely. I started the car after 2 days and it didn't. Then I did the ignition trick, i.e. let the heater sign go off, switched off the ignition and repeated. The car started, but I suspect the problem is somewhere else. Anything?? __________________ No signatures..

7th January 2008, 12:47	#54 (permalink)
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,083	thanks zappo.... i opened the bonnet yesterday to check the battery, realized that there are bubbles coming out of the cell - top (plastic wala dhakkan) where we pour the battery water. When i tried to open one of those, it was with some pressure that the water starting coming out. I went to a battery wala, he checked and said that the cells were OK but weak and its high time to get the battery changed. I switched on to amaron and all's well. __________________ No signatures..

16th December 2007, 22:57	#49 (permalink)
dinar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: goa Posts: 901	hey u need a to over haul the starter motor and use a bigger bat, it common on idicas ,that the starter won't take the load of a warm engine. thing is even if change the bat , it'll work for few month but later the same problem comes around, bosch bats work fine and fit in the existing fitting. As for the black smoke it's again common with engines with 75000 km, on them. Get the engine decarbonised , your both the second and third, problems will be reduced if not eliminated. these things are common with indicas, dude do not worry, there is solution to all the problem now and in the future.

12th February 2008, 14:42	#56 (permalink)
adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 718	Warm Start problem My indica 2004 DLS 68K on the odo occasionally has trouble starting. Usually the problem occurs when the car is warm. It never happens in the mornings. I had the TASC guys check my battery and glow plugs but no problem was found. The starter was overhauled a few months ago for the same problem but it returned sometime later. Any ideas guys ? __________________ Sometimes, to do it right, you have to do it yourself

12th February 2008, 15:03	#57 (permalink)
BlackPearl BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hightstown(NJ, USA), Calcutta (India) Posts: 958 View My Garage	Check Engine Light in 6 month old Xeta My sister's car had been sitting idle for the past 15-20 days due to unavailability of a driver. So one day I went to start the car and saw that the check engine light had stayed on after starting the car. sometimes it was blinking like some loose connection. took it to the service centre where the mechanic tightened a few things and the light had gone off. this guy had no clue as to what might have happened and said that these things are quite common and one should not worry about it . the best part was that the educated service advisor also told the same thing. but I insisted a lot and tried to get an answer from them. So they asked me to keep the car for the entire day and they would get back with some results. so in the evening while taking delivery of the car they told me that it was due to loose oxygen sensor. but the problem cropped up again while returning from the service centre. the light is blinking sometimes and sometimes going off. I am totally confused and hope to give these guys a good thrashing the next time I take the car there. __________________ Don't take life too seriously, no matter what you do you won't come out of it alive

12th February 2008, 15:54	#58 (permalink)
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 969	Before you start thrashing...! I suggest ask them to hook up the Laptop to diagnose what the check engine error is, At times the check engine stays on or starts blinking and might even go away in a fugitive state-which can be attributed to either loose coupler or faulty connection somewhere----If it stays on,it has to be a fault. __________________ " When was the last time, You did something for the first time "

13th February 2008, 18:00	#60 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,273 View My Garage	What kind of trouble your car has? The Starter motor refuses to turn when warm, or the starter motor turns the engine, or starter motor turns but it appears that its rotating free? __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

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