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Old 23rd November 2010, 19:15   #691
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check with the tasc if it should be taken care of urgently, but it should hold for 2k kms ( mine did), but its very annoying ( the sound), and I felt that the busted bearings sapped a bit of power as well ( after the change, i felt the car was quicker)
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...diesel dripping...
Not quite clear about where exactly the drip is from. Would you kindly post a picture of the area to help understand? Usually diesel high pressure rotary pumps leak because of either a failed oil seal (common) or a worn out rotor shaft (uncommon).

The cure is to open up the pump at a diesel pump service centre (MICO for Indica/Indigo pumps), replace the parts and recalibrate the pump.
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Not quite clear about where exactly the drip is from. Would you kindly post a picture of the area to help understand? .
This is the picture
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Not quite sure why fuel is leaking from the cap - I think it covers access to the shaft, bearings and oil seal of the feed pump. In that case the oil seal will need to be replaced. Best to let a dedicated diesel injection pump centre like MICO handle it. Recalibration will be required if it's opened up.
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Old 2nd December 2010, 16:22   #695
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Default Sudden brake fade in slow moving traffic

Hello all,

I have one more issue popping up in my car,I am experiencing sudden brake fade even in slow moving traffic.

Context : There is some rain in Chennai and some parts are water logged, so there is slow moving traffic.

The engine heats up due to lack of cool air (guess the car thinks it came from some F1 factory) and the needle moves to the centre position and the radiator fan switches on.

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If I have to make a braking move now, I see that only the first braking action causes the brakes to bite, subsequent pumps on the pedal there is no bite at all and it feels as if the discs are skimming through. I had to use the hand brake thrice in my commute out of precaution last night.

I thought it could be because of water on the discs, but then even on dry areas I got the same issue, the only common point is that the radiator fan was on and the engine was being cooled down.

Could it be that the brake booster experiences some power loss in this state ? I have had the experience of very low pick up and tightening of power steering when the fan turns on in the past and these were rectified

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Could it be that the brake booster experiences some power loss in this state ? I have had the experience of very low pick up and tightening of power steering when the fan turns on in the past and these were rectified

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Indivic, very low pick up when the fan turns on is not a new phenomenon in Indica. The radiator fan gets it supply from the battery & the battery is being constantly charged by the alternator, which is run by the engine. Hence the radiator fan switching on puts additional load on the engine & you experience a reduction in pick-up. However I cannot understand the co-relation with the brakes. When did you last change your brake pads/ drums? Please get these checked from a garage. The brake pad thickness should be more than 5mm at least. New ones are @ 10mm thick. Also check the brake discs. You can ask the mechanic to roughen the surface of the disc & pads with a polish paper. If this doesn't resolve your problem then check the brake circuit.

Another possibility could be that he vacuum booster is malfunctioning when the radiator fan kicks in & doesn't produce enough vacuum for braking assistance
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This is an Indica DLS circa October 2004, having done approximately 43k kms. Its daily run is 14 kms.

Last week the AC stopped working and the car was sent to the service centre ( Richard Garage, Military Road, Marol, Andheri East, Mumbai). A fuse was replaced and the AC worked on one trip after which it again stopped working.

the car was re-sent to the garage on Tuesday 30th Nov. Today the service engineer called up to say that components of the alternator have conked and the regulator, the bearing etc. will have to be replaced and that the total cost will be Rs7k.

Slightly alarmed at this, I have asked him to wait for me to discuss and decide.

Indica experts, request suggestions from you on the problem at hand.
I plan to be at the service centre tomorrow morning 11ish.

Regards, drive safe
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This is an Indica DLS circa October 2004, having done approximately 43k kms. Its daily run is 14 kms.

Last week the AC stopped working and the car was sent to the service centre ( Richard Garage, Military Road, Marol, Andheri East, Mumbai). A fuse was replaced and the AC worked on one trip after which it again stopped working.

the car was re-sent to the garage on Tuesday 30th Nov. Today the service engineer called up to say that components of the alternator have conked and the regulator, the bearing etc. will have to be replaced and that the total cost will be Rs7k.

Slightly alarmed at this, I have asked him to wait for me to discuss and decide.

Indica experts, request suggestions from you on the problem at hand.
I plan to be at the service centre tomorrow morning 11ish.

Regards, drive safe
Issigonis, never ever give your car to TASC for alternator related repairs. For alternator or fuel pump repairs they remove the part & send it to the nearest TVS Lucas Service centre, & then add their margin to the Lucas bill & then give you an inflated bil. So you would be better off to directly take your vehicle to the nearest Lucas TVS Centre.

You probably might be having a faulty regulator in the alternator due to which the alternator might be overcharging. You will have to replace the regulator. Opening up the alternator would result in the replacement of some bearings & oil seals. However total bill should not cross 3-4K.
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Issigonis, never ever give your car to TASC for alternator related repairs. For alternator or fuel pump repairs they remove the part & send it to the nearest TVS Lucas Service centre, & then add their margin to the Lucas bill & then give you an inflated bil. So you would be better off to directly take your vehicle to the nearest Lucas TVS Centre.

You probably might be having a faulty regulator in the alternator due to which the alternator might be overcharging. You will have to replace the regulator. Opening up the alternator would result in the replacement of some bearings & oil seals. However total bill should not cross 3-4K.
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AutoIndian,

Thank you for the guidance. Will check the existence of any TVS Lucas Service Centres in the vicinity pronto.

Edited : Found from the Lucas TVS website that there is a 'Lucas Indian Service' office in Worli: will call them tomorrow to get their nearest service centre.

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AutoIndian, Thanks for your replies, my comments inside.

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Indivic, very low pick up when the fan turns on is not a new phenomenon in Indica.
Yes, I know that, which is what I indicated. This was solved under warranty, they diagnosed it as a faulty FIP and replaced it FOC. Now I know that pickup will go down and switch off the aircon.

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However I cannot understand the co-relation with the brakes. When did you last change your brake pads/ drums? Please get these checked from a garage. The brake pad thickness should be more than 5mm at least. New ones are @ 10mm thick. Also check the brake discs. You can ask the mechanic to roughen the surface of the disc & pads with a polish paper. If this doesn't resolve your problem then check the brake circuit.
I changed the brake discs and pad at the beginning of this year , done 7k on these , careful driving. In any case let me have them checked.

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Another possibility could be that he vacuum booster is malfunctioning when the radiator fan kicks in & doesn't produce enough vacuum for braking assistance
This is my guess, it happened yesterday as well when returning home, when it happens the engine is heated up and radiator fan is on. At other times if I try this maneouvre the brakes work.

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Not quite sure why fuel is leaking from the cap - I think it covers access to the shaft, bearings and oil seal of the feed pump. In that case the oil seal will need to be replaced. Best to let a dedicated diesel injection pump centre like MICO handle it. Recalibration will be required if it's opened up.
Okay SS-Traveller I found the culprit today. Perhaps my eyes were better today but then I remember noticing this, the other day too but somehow didn't pay attention. The top plate has 4 Torx bolts to hold it down. The one above the plastic and the big hex nut somehow had become loose. I pressed the plate dpwn and noticed the leak stops, So I found the right Torx bit T-21 I think, and tightned it down. Presto, no leak, no more. The plastic is just a dust cap and I'll put it back later. So I'm glad I saved some bucks. Now just the blower 1-2-3 speed resistor has to be looked at. Somehow water gets into the blower and then gushes out on the floor mat when I turn on the Aircon. And now the fan just works on 4. I will look into this next Friday. Thats the only day I have off in the week.
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Perhaps my eyes were better today but then I remember noticing this, the other day too but somehow didn't pay attention.
Happens to us all. But for having found the problem and solved it for free.
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...water gets into the blower and then gushes out on the floor mat when I turn on the Aircon.
Common problem. You've got a choked drain pipe, but cleaning the pipe out requires some bending/twisting under the dashboard, and/or getting under the car.
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Happens to us all. But for having found the problem and solved it for free.

Common problem. You've got a choked drain pipe, but cleaning the pipe out requires some bending/twisting under the dashboard, and/or getting under the car.
Got it fixed. Changed the resistor where most probably ythe condensor must have failed due to rain water going in. The water goes in from near the wiper link (grille) It's supposed to drain out but if there are some leaves in there then it fils up and gets into the blower. 600/- 1hour
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One of my friends has left his Indica Turbo at the TASC today, reason replacement of timing belt. Though the scheduled time interval for timing belt replacement is 100K kms, he has stretched it upto 109K kms. I want to ask the experts over here how long would the OEM timing belt can last (in terms of kms & years)? Are there any cases of timing belt failures before the 100K mark?

Along with timing belt replacement my friend has been advised for the coolant pump & bearing replacement, the parts & labor estimated to be approximately around Rs 4K. Is this amount reasonable?
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its a risk worth taking imho. the cost of timing belt failure is huge, while the belt itself is cheap, so it might end up more expensive in the long run. Most people change it at 80K kms
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