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Old 14th November 2011, 14:59   #871
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My Indica V2 (2006 turbo model) has stared to show up smoke while starting. The smoke is very visible for some time, and then reduces. Even after the engine is warm, one can "see" smoke during normal acceleration. It was not like this before.
What is the colour of smoke?
If it is black (while starting), then the engine is exhausting some unburnt fuel along with the exhaust gases (probably due to one or more glow-plugs gone kaput) as the fine fuel-air mixture is not burning completely.
If it is white smoke, then the engine oil is getting burnt along with fuel. Have you recently observed any drop in engine oil level recently?

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However, glow plugs do not explain smoke during normal operation after the car has warmed up, isnt it?

The car was serviced at 55k, and now i am nearing 60k. At 55k, engine decarbonisation was also done.
The air filter might have clogged. Along with increased smoke do you also feel the need to accelerate more for the same speed/pick-up. Get the air filter cleaned.

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What is the colour of smoke?
If it is black (while starting), then the engine is exhausting some unburnt fuel along with the exhaust gases (probably due to one or more glow-plugs gone kaput) as the fine fuel-air mixture is not burning completely.
If it is white smoke, then the engine oil is getting burnt along with fuel. Have you recently observed any drop in engine oil level recently?
The color is black. I will also check oil level to be sure.

Airfilter also might have to be cleaned - good idea - will try to do it this weekend.
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The color is black. I will also check oil level to be sure.

Airfilter also might have to be cleaned - good idea - will try to do it this weekend.
I guess then this rules out the possibility of the engine oil burning. Nevertheless it is harmless to check the oil level so as to be doubly sure. When did you last change your glow plugs? I have a strong feeling that one or more GPs might have failed, resulting in unburnt fuel & hence the black colour. If you haven't changed any of the GPs yet, it would be a good idea to visit the nearest Lucas TVS centre & check these. If one or more have failed it is advisable to change the whole set of 4 (should cost you around Rs 1400 for 4 + Rs 80 labour).

My first GP failed @ 56K (after 5 years) & then 3 failed simultaneously @ 80K (after 6 years), when I replaced the full set of 4 glow plugs.

Glow Plugs - 4 nos (Beru make) 1,400.00
Total - Labour Charges 80.00

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After servicing of my Indica Diesel turbo car, i am observing a strange behaviour. Whenever I am accelerating / pressing the throttle , i am hearing a continuous 'kat kat kat ' noise from engine bay. Moment I am lifting my foot from the accl pedl, the noise stops. It was not there earlier.

Car odo reading - 36K
Is it something to do with the accelerator cable setup/ adjustment ?

It is quite annoying and also more worrying for me is that, is it something which is an indication/warning of some critical part failure in near future?

Pls let me know if you have experienced such noise and how you have rectified it.
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After servicing of my Indica Diesel turbo car, i am observing a strange behaviour. Whenever I am accelerating / pressing the throttle , i am hearing a continuous 'kat kat kat ' noise from engine bay. Moment I am lifting my foot from the accl pedl, the noise stops. It was not there earlier. Pls let me know if you have experienced such noise and how you have rectified it.
Haven't come across any such thing earlier. Does this sound appear only when the car is in motion or even while idling? When you start the car & it is stationary (idling) try to press the accelerator & hear for the sound, if there is no sound then it is surely somewhere from the transmission (clutch, gearbox etc). If it is occurring even if the car is stationary, then probably could be from one of the pulleys/belts (alternator or power steering). Take the car to your nearest TASC/mechanic. Lift it on the ram & try to locate the source of the sound.
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Haven't come across any such thing earlier. Does this sound appear only when the car is in motion or even while idling? When you start the car & it is stationary (idling) try to press the accelerator & hear for the sound, if there is no sound then it is surely somewhere from the transmission (clutch, gearbox etc). If it is occurring even if the car is stationary, then probably could be from one of the pulleys/belts (alternator or power steering). Take the car to your nearest TASC/mechanic. Lift it on the ram & try to locate the source of the sound.
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- Definitely noise is coming when car is in motion.
- Sound not there in idling for sure.
- Not tried pressing accl in neutral/ stationary ...will check and let you know.
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Last couple of days I am not able to open the car bonnet. After pulling the bonnet opening lever on the right side of steering wheel I can hear a "khat"sound indicating that the bonnet has unlocked. But when I press the press the flap (underneath the bonnet) with 3 fingers (which we normally do to lift the bonnet), I am not able to lift it. Apparently though I hear the sound the bonnet doesn't seem to have unlocked properly.


Any idea what could be the issue? Anyone faced this & what is the remedy to overcome this?
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Last couple of days I am not able to open the car bonnet. After pulling the bonnet opening lever on the right side of steering wheel I can hear a "khat"sound indicating that the bonnet has unlocked. But when I press the press the flap (underneath the bonnet) with 3 fingers (which we normally do to lift the bonnet), I am not able to lift it. Apparently though I hear the sound the bonnet doesn't seem to have unlocked properly.


Any idea what could be the issue? Anyone faced this & what is the remedy to overcome this?
I have had a similar issue since Day 1 on my Indica. Try this solution. After pulling the bonnet lever inside the car, try to keep it in the same position (you need to keep a bottle or some such object to keep the lever in its OPEN position, or another person hold the lever in this position). Then try to open the bonnet.
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I have had a similar issue since Day 1 on my Indica. Try this solution. After pulling the bonnet lever inside the car, try to keep it in the same position (you need to keep a bottle or some such object to keep the lever in its OPEN position, or another person hold the lever in this position). Then try to open the bonnet.
Thanks for your reply deep_bang. Earlier it used to open. But today I asked my wife to pull the lever & I tried opening the bonnet, however it would not budge, tried 3-4 times, but in vain. There are usually 2 black rubber supports on which the bonnet rests. I have only one resting rubber above the HL assembly. The other side rubber has long gone. Could this be the reason?
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Thanks for your reply deep_bang. Earlier it used to open. But today I asked my wife to pull the lever & I tried opening the bonnet, however it would not budge, tried 3-4 times, but in vain. There are usually 2 black rubber supports on which the bonnet rests. I have only one resting rubber above the HL assembly. The other side rubber has long gone. Could this be the reason?
Let me go back and open my car's bonnet and see if i can find anyother reason to get stuck. Will get back by tomorrow morning (now its too dark to play around).
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Let me go back and open my car's bonnet and see if i can find anyother reason to get stuck. Will get back by tomorrow morning (now its too dark to play around).
No issues. Just a couple of minutes back I asked my office colleague to pull the lever & I held onto the bonnet & voila this time it opened as if nothing has happened. I guess the pull lever & the cable attached to it has become loose at some place. Will have to show this to my mechanic to get a permanent fix.
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Thanks for your reply deep_bang. Earlier it used to open. But today I asked my wife to pull the lever & I tried opening the bonnet, however it would not budge, tried 3-4 times, but in vain. There are usually 2 black rubber supports on which the bonnet rests. I have only one resting rubber above the HL assembly. The other side rubber has long gone. Could this be the reason?
Yes that rubber is the reason. Those rubbers does a job of spring so that when we pull the bonnet opening lever those rubbers pushes the bonnet up and thus the bonnet gets unlocked. Get that rubber. Or alternatively, get a person to hold the bonnet lever for you and then another person open the bonnet. This is what I do regularly due to the same problem. Although I have developed my own methods to open bonnet nowadays.
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Got my vehicle serviced from Prerana motors, Hosur road and i am disappointed, Total bill came to 10k + for vehicle which is still under extended warranty and which has clocked only 36k km :(

First thing is i was not happy with the overall job at all, the other major mistake they did is overfilled engine oil, when i checked the oil level next morning it was way above the max mark, when i called them, service guy says its normal, can anyone confirm this ? mine is a Turbo DLG v2 Indica with TCIC Engine.
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Got my vehicle serviced from Prerana motors, Hosur road and i am disappointed, Total bill came to 10k + for vehicle which is still under extended warranty and which has clocked only 36k km :(

First thing is i was not happy with the overall job at all, the other major mistake they did is overfilled engine oil, when i checked the oil level next morning it was way above the max mark, when i called them, service guy says its normal, can anyone confirm this ? mine is a Turbo DLG v2 Indica with TCIC Engine.
Over Filling Engine oil is absolutely rubbish. There is a reason why manufacturers have given a minimum and maximum level. If you fill below minimum, optimal lubrication will not be there and if you fill above maximum, air would enter the system and remove the oil that is clinging to the metals. Once the oil film gets removed, the friction would damage the moving parts and eventually lead to re-boring the engine.
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Got my vehicle serviced from Prerana motors, Hosur road and i am disappointed, Total bill came to 10k + for vehicle which is still under extended warranty and which has clocked only 36k km :(
That is way too much for a 36K servicing. What all did they do? Have you asked for all that what they have done in the servicing? While preparing the job card did they give you the estimate about the part & labor charges?

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First thing is i was not happy with the overall job at all, the other major mistake they did is overfilled engine oil, when i checked the oil level next morning it was way above the max mark, when i called them, service guy says its normal, can anyone confirm this ? mine is a Turbo DLG v2 Indica with TCIC Engine.
If it is just 3-4mm above the top level mark on dip stick, then no issues, but if it is way above that mark then it could lead to undue pressures in the crank case & may damage the oil seals, so better get it at the optimum level.
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